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By Pantafernando 2023-11-22 14:59:20
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I will buy them when they release on YouTube Music
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By Odin.Senaki 2023-11-22 15:22:17
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Ragnarok.Jessikah said: »
Odin.Senaki said: »
Ok... Let's now compare this to their remasters.

Again, I want to say that I do appreciate the initiative on their part.
These are the remixes from Tweex I've been talking about. These songs were composed and released in an album called "The Land of Vana'diel" back in the year 2012.

I'm really not pleased that this YouTuber is uploading these songs under the guise of these being originals for HorizonXI. There's no credit to Tweex, nor link to his original, 11-year-old uploads. And that's not even necessarily blaming this YouTuber. I'd sooner blame the HorizonXI team for not giving credit in the first place. At best they say nothing and hope that you think it's their hard work. At worst, they claim other peoples' hard work as their own. It's disgusting.

I see, that’s good to know.

I was under the impression that Horizon created the soundtrack and, as you say, it was not advertised that they took it from elsewhere.
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By Ragnarok.Jessikah 2023-11-22 15:47:55
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Odin.Senaki said: »
I was under the impression that Horizon created the soundtrack and, as you say, it was not advertised that they took it from elsewhere.
This is a great example of my biggest issue with HorizonXI and its team. Anything that you've enjoyed about that server is something that they had nothing to do with, and any changes or original updates for the server itself (outside of its launcher, to their credit) is poop.

The music remixes of the zones that already had music is all great, but that was all done over a decade ago by someone completely unaffiliated with the HorizonXI team. The decision to use that orchestral listening music to replace background music, the decision to add music to zones that didn't need music, and the crappy original songs for those zones are the credit of the HorizonXI team.

Just like how the game assets are great, but those were made by the original FFXI team. The server database functions, but that was made by the LSB and ASB teams. You can't praise Aerec and Friends for any of that. But you know what you can credit them for? The awful job balance changes, the ugly new character models, the awful economy changes, the weird bugs, and so on.
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By Bahamut.Boposhopo 2023-11-22 16:29:32
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While I'm not absolving them of everything, and have never played Horizon, a brief google search does provide this "Letter from the Director" (lol really?) that thanks Tweex and several others for the music. So at the very least they've given him credit for it at one point. Would be nice for the account uploading all this music would credit these people as well, but that's another story.
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By Odin.Senaki 2023-11-22 16:58:30
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I think the YouTuber is new to FFXI and doesn’t realize the music isn’t from just horizons.

So please don’t go rage on him for his ignorance.
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By Siren.Bruno 2023-11-22 17:08:57
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no music with the ambience of the environment breathes much more life into the world of Vana'diel than injecting background music behind everything

zoning into Beadeaux for the DRK quests and hearing the downpour of the rain as Zeid walked in, that created such an immersive feeling. the cutscenes felt heavy even though they were short. I can't imagine taking it seriously with whatever that HXI track is in the background
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By Ragnarok.Jessikah 2023-11-22 18:00:04
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Bahamut.Boposhopo said: »
(lol really?)
I dunno if he still does, but he called himself "Aerec-P" for a while as well.

That "Letter from the Director" is really messed-up. It doesn't thank Tweex for his tracks, it simply lists him as part of "our music team". Just like how they claimed the songs were HorizonXI original in one of their dev blogs, this makes it sound like they were specially-commissioned for HorizonXI. That's not proper credit, that's really undermining someone's work.

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To our music team: Emi, Tweex, Uzzy, Chary, Roso. I never thought that my crazy idea of custom music and recomposed music for the game would come to fruition.

No wonder the HorizonXI crowd are so infatuated with Aerec. Even when he's mentioning other peoples' names, he's somehow taking credit for the idea.

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We made this for you, so that you could enjoy adventuring one more time again in a world we all know and love - Vana’diel.

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And so my crazy idea of Era+ started to solidify.
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By Asura.Shinryukage 2023-12-08 19:02:12
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I feel like I'm getting the last laugh here, and I love it.
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By Mrxi 2023-12-08 19:16:23
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This music is trash, play retail.
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By Sylph.Shiriokumo 2023-12-09 19:55:35
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honestly i would rather listen to pokimane ramble for hours or emiru scream at the top of her lungs while raking a chalkboard.
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By Dodik 2023-12-09 20:48:36
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Sylph.Shiriokumo said: »
honestly i would rather listen to pokimane ramble for hours or emiru scream at the top of her lungs while raking a chalkboard.

Yikes.
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By Asura.Rekcuf 2023-12-10 06:20:19
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By Shioban 2023-12-12 06:27:57
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Some of them are alright background noise.

Sweet jesus that Valkurm Dunes music is just hateful sounding; it's the same guitar melody repeated in a loop for two minutes straight.


If you wanted to make FFXI 'sounding' music, the soundfont is easily acquired. (Obviously they didn't make any music specifically for this server.)

The extra music certainly feels out of place with the rest of the sound track overall.
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By Pantafernando 2023-12-12 07:07:36
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The OST is awesome!
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By Fenrir.Ramzus 2023-12-18 16:54:35
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offensively bad. the intro to ronfaure has more complexity and variety than all of these new songs combined
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By Sylph.Ketsui 2024-01-01 13:51:49
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Why does this exist? This is awful! Just steal from other RPGs or TV series, there's enough awesome ***out there to fill the zones, not like any of this is legal anyway, so might as well?