Why Won't You Main WHM

This happened to me, but with Tank jobs instead of WHM. I have BiS ML 50 DD's (SAM, MNK, BLU) I have Heishi/Yagu Ninja, a 5 song (All +7) Bard, Idris Geo, (skill a billion), both WHM and SCH, etc.
But unless i'm solo or in a 2-3 man w/e. I'm 90% of the time on Tank, either Pld or Run

Anyone remember yanran?
That player took being a gear Nazi to the next level
Whenever we played together
I'd tease him by calling him my Führer

I forget what fight we were doing but WHM needed a good cursna set
Had everything besides Gambanteinn but that *** wouldn't let me join

Around that time i had been working on Farsha and had most of the mats stock piled away
It pissed me off so much that i said screw it and went balls deep making Gambanteinn

The next time we played together i made sure to stylelock it
Gambanteinn ended up being overkill for that fight ><

WHM was/is my main, until BLU came around. I always liked being a support class back in the day. I was a sorcerer in Dark Age of Camelot before FFXI (who remember that mmorpg?) and I was either going BLM or WHM when I first created my char.

The most frustrating thing about being a WHM today is that people are accustom to a whm trust and think they'll always get a cure, despite the dangers of the mob, that they don't realize they need to be near me for cures. It always urks me to press a macro only to be greeted with 'Out of range'. These seconds matter !

For the DD meatheads, know your distance and position!

As a Gambanteinn owner and Max-Cursna-Enjoyer, I use Gambanteinn when I have Divine Seal active because it gives me an AoE cursna set without necessarily needing Yagrush. (I think with Cursna +216 or +221 and ML50's +50 Healing Skill (~588 Healing Skill maybe?), you get ~95.016% succes rate. (See: Cursna Calculator)

Anyway, the reason why I won't main WHM, because when the DDs are not strong enough or wear paper-thin glass-cannon sets, your burn yourself out very quickly as a WHM. It is literally burning a candle at both ends.

If it were up to me, since BSTs use get an XP penalty of -30% for having pets. I think WHMs should get +10% ...of all points. Just my two cents.


We're allowed to call them retards now. (Kidding!) ...I like the name "Unga-Bunga DDs". :)

You need to remember the DD meatheads are facing and have their curser locked on the battle target, the supports are outside of their view port. I think outside of roaming content like odyssey A-C and battlefields that need very particular positioning from all participants it's fair to expect the backline to make most corrections to positioning in order to stay in range.

Although I feel your pain cause I know how frustrating it is if you would have cast the correct spell just in time but get the out of range message even though people were close enough just a moment ago.

I will note when it comes to cursna the easier solution is to just have people make good holy water sets, made a huge difference for soloing Shinryu and never looked back.

if you're too lazy to carry holy waters at the very least pick up a nicander's neck and purity ring for cursna received too

The odd time i'm on DD
If i take any threatening damage
I switch to my movement speed / regen set
And bee line it to the healer

Unless i pulled hate
Than i keep that noise away from the healer

You can hit 100% Doom removal around ML25~30.

I ended up picking up Pandit staff on my WHM not seeing much about it in any guide as to where it stacks against others... should I push for Chatoyant Staff or Raetic Rod +1 or is Pandit going to fill my cure casting roles and I should skip the rest?

Queller Rod path D and Sors shield works good.

I would never use it for any cures under any circumstance, personally. It's nice for fast cast, if you don't mind weapon (type) swapping or if you have it in your idle set. It's also a nice idle piece.

Mostly it's a reraise v stick. Beyond that, the other stats are very unimpressive in the grand scheme of things. For WHM anyway

On that subject, do you suggest Whms just eat the ilvl drop from Chatoyant or is there another option? For both weather and non-weather cures.

Personally I dislike using non-ilvl weapons in the main slot, especially if whm is getting hit or in range of aoes.

It's kinda limited in utiltiy but its got some uses i think, FC is pretty easily met but it does make room for QC that you may not be able to fit in for non-healing magic. Its total macc is less than something like daybreak + ammurapi shield combo so if you dont have those its nice til then. CP is easy to fill though it could allow you to fit more CP II, just not sure how much of that you can reasonably use especially in situations where you're having to eat dmg.

RR V is of course nice but 20 hr recast is pretty lame along with the usual after-use delay most enchantment items, instead of just giving you a spell while its equipped.

EDIT: Honestly not even seeing much of a gain in CP II even with all of CP I being put into 1 slot, what CP II there is, is stuff you'd probably already be using like AF gloves or kaykus feet/head, which already have a nice dump of CP I on them.


If you're concerned about the ilvl drop could just go with the standard daybreak/shield combo, itll still be less than chato under weather but its not that much of a drop, theres also raetic of course which is better for more cost

Since so many endgame zones have perma dark weather, isn't chatoyant kinda situational to grab nowadays?

What content in 2025 simultaneously has enough dmg output where you wanna pop off max cures, but doesn't have dark weather to *** up your ele bonus? Omen?

I was sorta assuming nowadays a whm is more focused on mp sustain, i have no idea though.

pop a storm, overwrites the current zone weather and have a light obi so you gain none of the detriments of the dark aspect of the rainbow obi. In places like gaol where you have no SJ or just have no access to storms then the chato is being put away anyway since it should only be active when you can lightstorm yourself as otherwise its an inferior curing staff

MP sustain can be a factor, moreso if you're running raetic cures but if you have enough refresh buffs its not debilitatingly so, especially when you can easily carry a few mp restore meds that pop quickly. WHM doesnt lose MP rapidly unless they over-cure constantly, have to spam raises, or are getting mp zapped regularly, otherwise the empyrean legs do a huge amount of heavy lifting for you, with buffs/nas/raises being the only constant MP sinks

I thought that what you bring a whm for tho? :3

I really necroed the hell out of this thread.

Maybe I should come back and not main WHM.

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