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Ixion Lore and Proc Attempts
By SimonSes 2023-07-19 13:09:22
I will see if i can try killing it tonight only using helix dmg.
Anyone know what element hes weak to?
So I assume you don't believe the guy who said he got it on Mnk with trusts?
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By Bahamut.Negan 2023-07-19 13:27:29
no debuffs?
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By Asura.Akirane 2023-07-19 15:21:48
Qultada likes to weaponskill as soon as he gets 1k TP. Could it be that he used Detonator which lead to a three-step skillchain? Victory Smite has Fragmentation as second property. Could the objective require you to kill Ixion with multiple people skillchaining?
By Pantafernando 2023-07-19 16:35:37
I will see if i can try killing it tonight only using helix dmg.
Anyone know what element hes weak to?
So I assume you don't believe the guy who said he got it on Mnk with trusts?
Could be applying some specific type of debuff like plague from shijin
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By Bahamut.Boposhopo 2023-07-19 17:04:25
Qultada likes to weaponskill as soon as he gets 1k TP. Could it be that he used Detonator which lead to a three-step skillchain? Victory Smite has Fragmentation as second property. Could the objective require you to kill Ixion with multiple people skillchaining?
Went in last night on DRG (so not MNK) using the same trusts dalkiel81 did. I started off originally focusing on crits using Shining One and Drakesbane, but remembered crits were tested so figured SC or something similar may have something to do with it. I swapped to Trish and did a 4 step Darkness solo, and a 4 step light off of Qultada's Savage Blade that he somehow landed (Went Stardiver -> Savage -> Drakes -> Camlann's). Was planning at the time to just multistep darkness him dead, but switched at this point to lights the rest of the way till Ixion was dead (started about 60% HP remaining). Qultada died shortly after this so all remaining SC were solo 4 steps. Did not see chest.
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By Shiva.Flowen 2023-07-19 17:16:01
I doubt this will be helpful but who knows, figured I'd mention it.
I have gotten the chest from Ixion once, it was when basements were new, I went in as monk for unlock, and fought him from the front with trusts, didn't kill any pixies or anything else in that section.
My trusts would have been Monberaux, Koru-Moru, Joachim, Qultada, and Ulmia.
I would have just been Victory Smiting him with Impetus on, I also think (if I am remembering right} that I fought him in the hallway just before the first Nakuaal room.
In before it turns out this dude used formless strikes and the chest drops from non-elemental damage. Someone go and requiescat it to death
By Foxfire 2023-07-19 17:40:28
... has anyone tried just doing blunt damage? clubs, etc?
as in, majority blunt dmg, which i assume would be the case for a mnk solo setup
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By Asura.Cthaeh 2023-07-19 17:45:24
... has anyone tried just doing blunt damage? clubs, etc?
Things that I've tried.
Mnk (no Qultada out) Vere VS spam w/ Impetus in a crit build.
(edit: Not sure how quick this was from entrance, but I ran straight to him in first Nakuul room and he melted)
CDC Spam with BLU and crit rate set(Crit WS attempt)
Sequence stepping Vorpal Blade > Red Lotus Blade back and forth for multi step / Skillchain Damage.
Kill from front, kill from back, kill from side.
Watched a JP video where they were turning around during Scintillant Lance, but the video did not show the kill and I wasn't sure what they were talking about. Next time I go in for a solo run, I plan on turning during his WS
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By Asura.Eiryl 2023-07-19 17:45:30
Just try killing it slower. A solo with trusts probably took 2 minutes and you all zerg the *** out of it in 15 seconds.
If it is take two minutes after aggro you would literally never figure it out, and for as long as it's been, that's what it is.
Theres multiple "kill it fast" objectives, why not.
Try fuming at it.
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By Asura.Cthaeh 2023-07-19 17:48:46
Just try killing it slower. A solo with trusts probably took 2 minutes and you all zerg the *** out of it in 15 seconds.
If it is take two minutes after aggro you would literally never figure it out, and for as long as it's been, that's what it is.
Theres multiple "kill it fast" objectives, why not.
I've done some pretty slow fights on him as well, trying for the skillchain damage as he is very resistant.
By Taint 2023-07-19 18:04:37
Yeah my SAM Multistep took forever. I just spammed Jinpu for at least 2 minutes.
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By Cerberus.Josafath 2023-07-19 19:20:12
Has anyone tested killing with specific type of dmg based on the time it is engaged?
Like in Abyssea when you could Blue proc with specific type of WS (Blunt, Slashing, Piercing) based on the time the NM was engaged.
Maybe the MNK guy was lucky enough to claim it during Blunt window. An most of use use either combined types of DD damage when fighting it or those that have tried the Crit builds have not been lucky enough to do it during the Piercing/Blunt windows.
Just saying...
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2023-07-19 19:45:38
Looking at the ixion in reisanjima breaking the horn is sometimes a challenge I bet it's similar. Mnk just has it easier
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By Fenrir.Velner 2023-07-21 14:23:50
Tried some proc attempts last night. Here is what I ruled out.
Engaged and do all damage from the front with no Skillchains. I only used Leaden Salute and melee hits. Nothing.
Engage and do all damage from the side with no Skillchains. I used only Leaden Salute and melee hits from the COR. Nothing.
Engage and kill with as much Light Damage as I could muster: Savage Blade - Upheaval - Upheaval. Nothing.
Kill after killing Naakuls. Nothing.
Re-materialize and re-kill. Nothing
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By Pantafernando 2023-07-21 14:40:25
Which side?
By Pantafernando 2023-07-21 14:43:59
The other day i thought funny, that sector E and G are in the opposite side.
So, supposing E is killing from behind, and maybe G is killing from the front, it would be funny if the procs from Ixion was killing in its left side, and tillitia in its right side.
By Taint 2023-07-21 14:45:12
Tried MNK only. No chest.
Smite and SS 3 steps.
I want to try with Bio on since he’s weak to dark.
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By Carbuncle.Slib 2023-07-21 14:51:27
Have you guys tried Rematerializing and killing it over again?
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By Fenrir.Velner 2023-07-21 15:15:09
Have you guys tried Rematerializing and killing it over again?
I suppose you could count that as part of my attempts yesterday as I was re-materializing and re-killed.
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By Fenrir.Velner 2023-07-21 15:15:38
Ixion's right side.
Ixion> <Tank
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COR
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By Fenrir.Velner 2023-07-21 15:41:49
I'll try more tonight. I will try 20 yalms kill. Kite out of the area I find him and kill. Kill from the back like Botchi (lol if that works). What else should we try?
By Univarsity 2023-07-21 16:09:57
I'll try more tonight. I will try 20 yalms kill. Kite out of the area I find him and kill. Kill from the back like Botchi (lol if that works). What else should we try? Try some enfeebles on it too, when Sorti first came out and everyone was running it melee style we had a Rdm and somehow had the chest pop once and never seen it again since. Try enfeebles and killing all the fairies.
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By Asura.Neojuggernautx 2023-07-21 19:27:25
Anyone on here tried anything with elementals and Ixion? For example, kill one of each element type and then kill him?
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By Asura.Illuminate 2023-07-22 02:11:56
Also forget about any very job specific condition. It's not gonna be that. Objectives are designed to be fulfilled with at least limited various party compositions. It can be nukes, but not BLU only nukes for example.
While i largely agree, I wouldnt entirely rule out pet related damage if nothing else happens to work
Well like I have said, limited variety. Pet is still at least 3 jobs, so it can be that.
My sortie static also considered that it may involve a pet. The problem is no one really wants to bring a BST or SMN afaik. However, someone really dedicated could try.
Also, has anyone tried just straight-up white damage and no weapon skills?
By SimonSes 2023-07-22 02:31:36
First of all we need to establish few things.
Do we believe a guy who got it on MNK with trusts?
Yes or no?
If yes, then stop creating crazy theories that couldn't happened in that fight
If we don't believe, at least try to read whole thread and don't ask questions answered before and don't try to do things that have been done before, or we will get complete chaos here.
I will try 20 yalms kill. ok I think its not that. I tried physical ranged and magical ranged. it could still be physical ranged WS. i think I have done more with white shots, than ws on that try.
I already did it (before we knew MNK got it with trusts).
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By Asura.Saevel 2023-07-22 02:49:45
So cute, everyone trying all these esoteric things when it's just bugged. Like this isn't the first time SE released something bugged and just didn't bother fixing it.
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By Asura.Illuminate 2023-07-22 03:28:34
Simonses makes a good point about trying things out without knowing what was attempted already. So I made a table. Please feel free to tell me if the conditions you tried are worded correctly. FYI for some reason the rows aren't separated by horizontal lines even though I have them in the original. If information such as "killed with WS" or "killed with nukes" isn't mentioned, then assume it's still an unknown.
Note
*Trusts used were Monberaux, Koru, Joachim, Quiltada, faced front
**Earthsday; Trusts used were Joachim, Koru, and Ulmia.
***Used the same conditions as condition 10 (i.e., blunt damage from MNK; faced front.
****MNK and BLU used crit setup/build
I will continue to update the table as people try new things. Any suggestions on the format or how to make the table useable by anyone in forums would be appreciated!
By Dodik 2023-07-22 04:14:30
Do we believe a guy who got it on MNK with trusts?
I do not. Pics or it didn't happen.
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By SimonSes 2023-07-22 04:34:09
Do we believe a guy who got it on MNK with trusts?
I do not. Pics or it didn't happen.
He said it was over a year ago. I don't think he can time travel.
I had a revelation last night. What if Ixion from historical greek mythology has the actual hint/ answer to proccing Ixion? See below post copy and pasted from wikipedia and my guesses at possible Ixion proc:
Ixion married Dia,[1] a daughter of Deioneus (or Eioneus), and promised his father-in-law a valuable present. However, he did not pay the bride price, so Deioneus stole [2] some of Ixion's horses in retaliation. Ixion concealed his resentment and invited his father-in-law to a feast at Larissa. When Deioneus arrived, Ixion pushed him into a bed of burning coals and wood [3]. These circumstances are secondary to the fact of Ixion's primordial act of murder; it could be accounted for quite differently: in the Greek Anthology (iii.12), among a collection of inscriptions from a temple in Cyzicus, is an epigrammatic description of Ixion slaying Phorbas and Polymelos, who had slain his mother, Megara, the "great one".
Ixion went mad, defiled by his act; the neighboring princes were so offended by this act of treachery and violation of xenia that they refused to perform the rituals that would cleanse Ixion of his guilt (see catharsis)[4]. Thereafter, Ixion lived as an outlaw and was shunned. By killing his father-in-law, Ixion was reckoned the first man guilty of kin-slaying in Greek mythology.
This act alone would warrant Ixion a terrible punishment, but Zeus took pity on Ixion and brought him to Olympus and introduced him at the table of the gods. Instead of being grateful, Ixion grew lustful for Hera, Zeus's wife, a further violation of guest–host relations. Zeus found out about his intentions and made a cloud in the shape of Hera, which became known as Nephele (from nephos "cloud") and tricked Ixion into coupling with it. From the union of Ixion and the false-Hera cloud came Imbros or Centauros, who mated with the Magnesian mares on Mount Pelion, Pindar told, engendering the race of Centaurs, who are called the Ixionidae from their descent.
Ixion was expelled from Olympus and blasted with a thunderbolt [5]. Zeus ordered Hermes to bind Ixion to a winged fiery wheel [6] [7] that was always spinning. Therefore, Ixion was bound to a burning solar wheel for all eternity, at first spinning across the heavens, but in later myth transferred to Tartarus [8]. Only when Orpheus [9] played his lyre during his trip to the Underworld to rescue Eurydice did it stop for a while [10][11].
[1] Cast Dia on Ixion (Dia 1? Dia 2? Light Shot?)
[2] Steal, Mug, or Despoil the Horse?
[3] Craft near Ixion... so he can be pushed in?
[4] Cast onto Ixion, Cure, Erase, Viruna, Esuna, Holy, Holy II?
[5] Have a BLU use Thunderbolt (Learned from behemoth) on Ixion
[6] Cast the elemental wheel in order on Ixion starting with Fire (Fire > Water > Thunder > Earth > Wind > Ice)
[7] Cast the elemental wheel in order on Ixion ending with Fire
(Water > Thunder > Earth > Wind > Ice > Fire)
[8] Cast Banish on Ixion to banish him to Tartarus...
[9] Equip an Orpheus Sash While playing a harp song near Ixion
[10] Sing a song while engaged on Ixion using a harp
[11] Sing a song debuff on Ixion using a harp
Please let one of the above memes actually be the answer.
Happy (proc) hunting
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