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Fujito ruined the game!
Cerberus.Dekar
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 275
By Cerberus.Dekar 2025-07-22 12:59:03
I just make friends with cooks and they'll craft whatever I want. To each their own I guess.
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Cerberus.Kylos
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4683
By Cerberus.Kylos 2025-07-22 12:59:53
I'm in 100% agreeance with Lili and Kylos. I love my "empty" server. No wait times and I don't have to deal with some of the lunacy that comes with overly populated server. The idea of having to wait over a minute to enter Ambu sounds awful.
I think part of the issue is that we only ever hear how much fun it is on a big server like Asura, but not enough is said about other servers.
For anyone who is thinking about trying out an "empty" server, Cerberus is alive and well. And I'd encourage players from other small servers to speak up if they believe there is fun to be had there.
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Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2025-07-22 13:02:11
You would do well to do exactly not that. You don't want to ruin your server by telling people they should go there.
All time shooting yourself in the *** moments when you look back a year from now.
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 99
By Asura.Certainly 2025-07-22 13:04:31
It is awful, but the trade off is you can buy food on the AH
This x1000
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VIP
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1084
By Fenrir.Niflheim 2025-07-22 13:04:32
Yeah cerb is great, best dog themed server. No need to come to fenrir just go to cerb, I promise it's more fun on cerb.
Shiva.Thorny
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3427
By Shiva.Thorny 2025-07-22 13:05:03
People end up on Asura because they lack the mental bandwidth, social skills, or free time to form a dedicated static or group. I'm not blaming those people for that, as we get older plenty of people reasonably want to just log on and play rather than maintaining a whole new set of close friends and a schedule to do events.
If you have a small group with a variety of craft skills and reliable performance in instanced events, you can have a great time on a small server. Someone else transferring there isn't going to fit cleanly into that group. For better or worse, 6 man content has drastically compounded small server problems. Most players aren't actually going to have a great time trying out an "empty" server unless they've already coordinated a group that has space for them before moving.
That could be the answer, though. More active recruitment from partial groups on small servers, draw players that correspond to what you're missing into transferring. I never see LFM posts from anywhere besides Asura/Bahamut here; the lockdown could change that.
Cerberus.Kylos
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4683
By Cerberus.Kylos 2025-07-22 13:05:17
Oh, and I don't believe enough players would suddenly jump because a few people said they should in a forum. More players would be nice and would not detract from the experience we already have.
Cerberus typically sits between 300-400 players most days. If that was bumped by 200, it would be really cool to see, but I highly doubt that would happen without some grand intervention by SE.
People end up on Asura because they lack the mental bandwidth, social skills, or free time to form a dedicated static or group. I'm not blaming those people for that, as we get older plenty of people reasonably want to just log on and play rather than maintaining a whole new set of close friends and a schedule to do events.
If you have a small group with a variety of craft skills and reliable performance in instanced events, you can have a great time on a small server. Someone else transferring there isn't going to fit cleanly into that group. For better or worse, 6 man content has drastically compounded small server problems. Most players aren't actually going to have a great time trying out an "empty" server unless they've already coordinated a group that has space for them before moving.
That could be the answer, though. More active recruitment from partial groups on small servers, draw players that correspond to what you're missing into transferring. I never see LFM posts from anywhere besides Asura/Bahamut here; the lockdown could change that.
I lead a LS and we typically have two groups in it with different schedules that can mix and add people when needed. If we do alliance content, we can come together more. A small server LS can have more than 6 players doing 6-person content, but you need 2 or 3 leaders willing to lead those groups.
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By soralin 2025-07-22 13:05:25
I played on an empty server for a long time before moving to asura.
What did me in was just how awful supply/demand was. So much stuff you normally would just buy off the AH just... didn't exist, so you got *** blocked all the time on progression.
Meanwhile on asura most random stuff you need is very decent in supply, so you can acquire it.
In return, yes, asura's queue times can really suck for specific pain points.
However this can be pretty decently alleviated by just not trying to do queue'd content during high congestion times. I avoid ambuscade during peak hours, same for odyssey.
However, I acknowledge I have the privilege of getting to play the game at such hours, not everyone can just do something like that, and for those folks I can understand queue times being a huge problem for them. If you only get 1-2 hours to play a day and you spend a third of that waiting for queues, that sucks ***.
Shiva.Thorny
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3427
By Shiva.Thorny 2025-07-22 13:16:29
I lead a LS and we typically have two groups in it with different schedules that can mix and add people when needed. If we do alliance content, we can come together more. A small server LS can have more than 6 players doing 6-person content, but you need 2 or 3 leaders willing to lead those groups.
I'm not demeaning your group to be an elitist, but from everything I've heard you're playing at a level below the better Asura pickup groups.
The amount of groups that can easily exchange a few members and still have an exact number of working 6man groups for content reliably is not very high. If you're trying to do 9boss Sorties or clear V25s, you don't have that much flexibility to swap members out unless you have a substantial pool of people who are both very well equipped and don't mind missing half their runs because the shell didn't end up with exactly 6, 12, or 18 members that lined up correctly.
I've long been an advocate of the tight-knit friend groups and small server approach, you can dig into any of the threads on it and see me defending keeping small servers small. But, in an era where the 2 most relevant and long-lived events are both strictly 6man, there are significant downsides for an Asura player hopping servers to join a loosely structured group like that.
Cerberus.Kylos
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4683
By Cerberus.Kylos 2025-07-22 13:22:58
I lead a LS and we typically have two groups in it with different schedules that can mix and add people when needed. If we do alliance content, we can come together more. A small server LS can have more than 6 players doing 6-person content, but you need 2 or 3 leaders willing to lead those groups.
I'm not demeaning your group to be an elitist, but from everything I've heard you're playing at a level below the better Asura pickup groups.
The amount of groups that can easily exchange a few members and still have an exact number of working 6man groups for content reliably is not very high. If you're trying to do 9boss Sorties or clear V25s, you don't have that much flexibility to swap members out unless you have a substantial pool of people who are both very well equipped and don't mind missing half their runs because the shell didn't end up with exactly 6, 12, or 18 members that lined up correctly.
I've long been an advocate of the tight-knit friend groups and small server approach, you can dig into any of the threads on it and see me defending keeping small servers small. But, in an era where the 2 most relevant and long-lived events are both strictly 6man, there are significant downsides for an Asura player hopping servers to join a loosely structured group like that.
That's fair enough. I wasn't actively advertising, and I know my group isn't top tier. We do what we can and have fun doing it. Most definitely a casual group punching above our weight, and that's fine. I don't need us doing regular 9 boss Sorties or V25 Odyssey NMs to have fun. I always liked being behind the curve so we have things to do, lol.
However, I do know groups on Cerberus who are doing the top content regularly and are exceptional at what they do. Can't say they have places, but the point here is to state that it is not impossible for a player fron Asura to join a small server and find a group at any level.
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Shiva.Thorny
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3427
By Shiva.Thorny 2025-07-22 13:28:53
I do know groups on Cerberus who are doing this regularly and are exceptional at what they do. Absolutely, there are groups clearing the top content on every server. The issue is that the end goal for someone progress oriented is to do high output Segment+Sortie runs with relative frequency.
Someone who is currently well equipped on Asura can find or form a decent enough pickup basically anytime or make connections to a half dozen groups to look for fillin opportunities. They have a lot of potential to join a group for more stable scheduling if they desire to do so.
If the same person transfers to a small server without lining up a group that fits them first, they probably only have 2-3 potential groups to network with and could very well end up unable to do that content reliably. Even counting on one group could backfire if personalities clash.
Small servers have upsides, but I think the pitch is going to be based around existing groups recruiting. It's too big a plunge, otherwise.. since you can't return.
By K123 2025-07-22 13:35:26
If they merged cerb quetz and levi without announcing it, the players literally wouldn't even notice.
We would He means you wouldn't notice it in a negative way, which you wouldn't.
We are not lacking Bumba v25 clears nor prime weapons nor master trials. There are probably more people that have gotten V25 clears with random people pugging on Asura than elite groups on Cerberus
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2025-07-22 13:39:37
Well, I meant it both ways.
Peak pop on cerb is ~250-300. If you doubled it, it would have no negative impact AND you also wouldn't even notice it happened. It's that small. 500 isn't enough to eat every apex camp, even if they all mxp'd at once.
By K123 2025-07-22 13:59:13
I wouldn't be surprised that if, as a percentage, the number of accounts on servers like Cerberus and Leviathan that are 100% afk is much higher than Asura too. "400" on Cerberus can be 100 people online max. 3500 on Asura will be 500+ people actually there. Plus idiots like Draylo that stand in the same spot for months online and call themselves FFXI players and vehemently defend FFXI when their "playing" is afking.
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Bismarck.Nickeny
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2432
By Bismarck.Nickeny 2025-07-22 15:03:26
I told AI how I feel and asked not to make me sound like a *** - Enjoy
"I appreciate this thread because it proves a crucial point about the game's direction.
I want to add something important for the community to consider. This game has been through a lot. At one point, it was a major competitor to World of Warcraft, but now it's a fraction of what it once was, largely due to the developers' decisions. It feels like the company gave up and lost its magic. That creative spark has vanished because they consistently chose design concepts and difficulty over Quality of Life for players."
By Dodik 2025-07-22 18:07:21
People end up on Asura because they lack the mental bandwidth, social skills, or free time to form a dedicated static or group.
Also another reason. Found plenty of groups and none of them wanted to keep playing with them cause they're a-holes.
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Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 15
By Asura.Magitaru 2025-07-22 18:57:54
Bahamut.Starscreamx said: »please for the love of god lock bahamut so they all don't come here and spread elsewhere!
Make BG great again!
Carbuncle.Maletaru
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3470
By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-07-22 21:13:57
I can't speak for the population at large because I mostly interact with my own linkshell, but Carbuncle offers a fine experience and I/we don't want a merge.
Obviously I, and frankly anyone who bothers to ask me, don't have a problem getting any crafted items made. I've made all kinds of weird food for Ody fights etc. and anyone who asks me to make anything will get it, typically within 24 hours. There are exceptionally rare times when I have a difficult time finding some crafting mat or other, but 99.99% of the time, I ask in LS/Discord and someone has a ton to sell me.
We also have at least a few groups that have cleared V25 Ody, Aminon, 9 boss, have finished prime weapons, and can ***all over the rest of the game with ease.
I'd agree that it's not easy to quickly get into/form one of these groups, you definitely need to have some leadership skills, will likely need to gear up the capable players you befriend, and PUGs are non-existent. It's a different experience, but absolutely not impossible to clear 100% of content on Carbuncle.
Frankly, it sounds like the experience on smaller servers is pretty much identical across the board. I very much prefer it, though Bahamut is fine too, it's a happy medium right in the middle.
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By Bosworth 2025-07-22 23:40:48
There is literally zero downside to merging the lowest pop servers because the player counts there are so low you wouldn't even notice it. Going from 300 online to 600 online offers zero negative impact on gameplay. The only effect I can think of is you'll suddenly have some items on the AH you didn't before
Carbuncle.Nynja
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5566
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-07-23 00:22:16
How about you say in your own lane instead of worrying about the 3-4k servers??? Guy from second most populated server talking about what the low pop servers should be doing with their communities.
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Just sayin
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By Bosworth 2025-07-23 00:28:36
I understand you have a different opinion, and that's fine. You also can't say I'm wrong here, because you know I'm not. I've also never said anything about "what low pop servers should do with their communities". No clue where that came from.
Carbuncle.Nynja
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5566
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-07-23 00:30:51
"Bro like wheres this hostility coming from I didnt say anything about the low pop servers bro chill cmon I didnt say anything what kind of conspiracies is this now"
There is literally zero downside to merging the lowest pop servers because the player counts there are so low you wouldn't even notice it.
By Bosworth 2025-07-23 00:32:42
I'm aware what server I play on. This isn't news to me
By Bosworth 2025-07-23 00:33:42
You said I'm telling low pop servers "what to do with their communities". Your quote isn't that. Maybe don't foam at the mouth every time you see an opinion different than yours on the internet.
Carbuncle.Nynja
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5566
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-07-23 00:36:53
Guy from second most populated server talking about what the low pop servers should be doing with their communities.
Perhaps you should shut the *** up with your opinion of what SE should do with the low pop servers since you dont play on a low pop server, especially when that opinion involves *** up the communities of said low pop servers. People on a low pop server choose to be on a low pop server by their own volition. If they wanted to be on a higher pop server, they would go to Odin or Bahamut or Asura. Server transfer is a thing and has been a thing since 2007.
I dont make comments on what SE should do with Odin, Bahamut or Asura.
Ok well Asura I do, but to be fair everyone does.
By Seun 2025-07-23 00:38:53
Merging low pop servers does nothing to address the congestion on Asura, which is the actual issue. Why are people trying to solve problems that aren't problems?
Carbuncle.Nynja
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5566
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-07-23 00:43:23
Maybe they think that people will migrate off Asura if the low pop servers are more populated.
That theory is already shot dead in before it got out of the gate because Odin and Bahamut exist, and those supposed players that would migrate off Asura are still on Asura.
By Bosworth 2025-07-23 00:44:56
Guy from second most populated server talking about what the low pop servers should be doing with their communities.
Perhaps you should shut the *** up with your opinion of what SE should do with the low pop servers since you dont play on a low pop server, especially when that opinion involves *** up the communities of said low pop servers. People on a low pop server choose to be on a low pop server by their own volition. If they wanted to be on a higher pop server, they would go to Odin or Bahamut or Asura. Server transfer is a thing and has been a thing since 2007.
I dont make comments on what SE should do with Odin, Bahamut or Asura.
Ok well Asura I do, but to be fair everyone does.
I'm going to say whatever I damn well please regardless of if it upsets the sensitive cry baby whiners like you. I know I'm right and so do you considering you've stated nothing otherwise.
Merging low pop servers does nothing to address the congestion on Asura, which is the actual issue. Why are people trying to solve problems that aren't problems?
I mean, it depends. Some could say dead servers aren't good optics for new players. I understand why Nynja is throwing a *** fit about the *hypothetical* idea of merging servers. Him and others like the quiet. That's fine. Merging two dead servers wouldn't mess with that.
Carbuncle.Nynja
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5566
By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-07-23 00:46:05
I'm going to say whatever I damn well please regardless of if it upsets the sensitive cry baby whiners like you. I know I'm right and so do you considering you've stated nothing otherwise. "I know I'm right"
*** lmao
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