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By klayy 2025-06-01 18:41:03
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
I forgot to mention this weeks ago about Aminon and something we observed. Apparently, he has some anti-shooting Ranged damage resistance, something to the effect of more than a -90% resistance to ranged damage. The BG wiki page says he takes 100% ranged damage and the notes make no mention of any ranged damage nerf, but as far as at least physical ranged WS damage goes, it has to be like a -90%~99% nerf or so. We had the idea during songs to break up WS and give the COR shooting buffs, since he wanted to try out Terminus with his new toy. It did like 2k damage several times with SV buffs and Bolster bubbles. This must have been SE's way of eliminating the "kite Aminon and shoot him" strategy.

I don't have the exact numbers on what the cut is so I won't edit the wiki page just yet, but if someone else has the opportunity to observe their damage and estimate and confirm what we found, we can edit it afterwards so the page is accurate.

I can pretty much corroborate these findings. I tried to do terminus on aminon a couple of times many months ago and both times I gave up within 90 seconds because I couldn't break 4K with it. As much as I wondered if I didnt have the racc for it (given how evasive it is), I was reasonably sure I wasn't just hitting a 2nd hit only every time. I think we even stymied distract on it once.. I never had prelude but yeah, my conclusion was like 98% ranged dmg was not a thing or 2% somehow I managed to only hit the junk part of the WS every single time lol.

As anyone FBIIed aminon on COR? I kinda wanna toss 2 CORs at it on days where my group either lacks a DNC or that person doesn't wanna play that character. Two CORs would be OP if you could find a viable 2nd WS for the 2nd COR to use. It's FBII or bust though I guess.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-06-07 18:20:16
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@mods
Can this thread be moved to the Endgame section instead of the FFXI general section?
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-06-25 13:51:02
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Felgarr said: »
I wanted to share a diagram I made, but I can't find the thread where people were talking about Cardinal Chant Bonus in Sortie, so here you go:



(MS PAINT FTW).

This would net a Magic Attack bonus and not a Magic Burst Bonus, right? That's not as potent/useful as the MBB with a West-located mob.
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By Asura.Yankke 2025-06-27 14:36:19
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Impact have any effect on bosses, is it worth casting it?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-06-27 14:40:20
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I mean. Kinda obvious, no? Is -Vit or -Int ever not worth it (as long as the fight is longer than like 10 seconds)
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-06-27 14:44:40
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Does aminion reward a +2 case if you don't do the enhanced version for the stage 5 item
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By Dodik 2025-06-27 14:50:45
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Yes, any kill counts.
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By Bismarck.Sterk 2025-07-06 01:03:38
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Double MNK in Sortie has been pretty fun.

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By K123 2025-07-06 04:36:48
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Looks fun, but not really sure what the point is unless you really couldn't gear a DNC and PLD. I've done 8 bosses with WAR MNK to 6 though, was fine for that.
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By Bismarck.Sterk 2025-07-06 04:47:41
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K123 said: »
unless you really couldn't gear a DNC and PLD
This is basically why we do it the way we do. Nobody felt like gearing DNC or PLD, so we came up with something else. We're also doing Aminon + 7 Boss right now with only 2 runs of experience with the setup (haven't made it to Aita yet), so I can see Aminon + 8 Boss using double MNK completely do-able. Also:
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Looks fun
was another big reason. Regain strats are boring to me.
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By Dodik 2025-07-06 05:12:17
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That is NQ Aminon, correct?

Good going making a melee engaged strat work regardless.
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By SimonSes 2025-07-06 05:41:39
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This should also work with hybrid setup of regain + one MNK right? Just give MNK different rolls and let him fight, while PLD holds the mob and other people WS with regain. Maybe limit WSing from other people to only WS at like 2000+TP if chi blast is down (or just reset chi blast with RD>WC>RD). Other people just WSing shouldn't generate more TP, than 2nd fully engaged MNK?
That way you could still do other bosses with kiting strategy, beca use I assume with 2 MNK its regular melee zerg or you just put 2 MNKs on everything?
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By Bismarck.Sterk 2025-07-06 05:56:59
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SimonSes said: »
I assume with 2 MNK its regular melee zerg or you just put 2 MNKs on everything?
We have everyone but the healer DDing the other bosses. I go MNK/RUN to provide some extra defense with Valiance since curing is limited to Curaga III. Haven't gotten to Aita yet, but for him I plan on having only the MNKs on it.
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That is NQ Aminon, correct?
Yes.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-07-06 11:12:49
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I said a while ago monks and summoners pair nicely together. I think Papesse also said Mew doesn't get affected by nerf, and it would help on other bosses like Aita in denying him tp.
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-07-06 13:13:25
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After looking at Felgarrs post
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DHCBAEFG

I started wondering what others do to save time
As well as what boss order is optimal for melee or magic

I was doing dcba eghf
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By Dodik 2025-07-06 13:15:09
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Did H DCBA EFG. Will give you two sometimes three 1hrs on the person that gets cutting cards (geo).
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By Bismarck.Sterk 2025-07-07 00:23:21
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Bismarck.Sterk said: »
Haven't gotten to Aita yet, but for him I plan on having only the MNKs on it.
Fought him with 2x MNK today. He actually didn't do any TP moves at all after his first forced one. Only had the 2 MNKs on it with Penance up. Very painless, fetterless fight.
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By Bismarck.Sterk 2025-07-18 12:52:06
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I've been getting people asking if 2x MNK is viable for 9 bossing and, in short, yes it is after getting some practice in. Last night we 9 bossed even after having me crash on my 3 chars for 5 mins. We've also updated our MNK gear a bit since the above video so things die a bit faster now (we had R0 Mpaca in the video, but now we have R25). Our fastest Aminon kill so far is 4:27. Honestly I don't know how that compares to the DNC or Mage method since I have no experience trying them, but I think that's pretty good.

Other bosses aren't bad either. We have both SV and Bolster up for Gartell so even he's pretty tame just facetanking it with everyone on it. The MNKs are the ones taking the most damage and they have Chakra/Inner Strength as emergency heals if it ends up being necessary.
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-07-18 12:57:44
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What kind of party composition?
What weapons and subjobs?

Been wanting to try my mnk out in sortie
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By Asura.Midgitis 2025-07-18 14:38:51
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I've done monk 8 boss a bunch of times. Drg or Sam, Mnk, War, Brd, Cor, Whm.

Have the sam open with Ageha or drg angon and just footwork tornado kick with godhands. Plenty of max damage WS. Mnk can live the Aita fetters just fine, no need to TP denial anything just full blast.
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2025-07-18 14:46:23
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I am a Sam and used to run primarily with a mnk brd Cor rdm whm but I was curious as to how two monks play out and if they also used the prime weapon at all
The mnk I went with would maybe use it for one fight
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-07-18 15:13:17
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Just ran a quick Temenos w/ LS on Asura and we accidentally spawned the Temenos ??? RIGHT next to the chest in Central 4.

We didnt kill anything out of the ordinary. Like most groups, we ran all the mobs (grah + goblin + meeble + euvhi) from the entrance to the chest, slept them there and killed. After we killed about 3 KI's worth it popped

EDIT: if one of them was an NM, theres no way to know since it's not like we were /checking them.... I had assumed that the placeholder would be some random mobs outside of the normal route people take and that's why it was not spawning... but I guess this disproves that.
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By Fenrir.Velner 2025-07-18 15:24:22
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Asura.Dexprozius said: »
Just ran a quick Temenos w/ LS on Asura and we accidentally spawned the Temenos ??? RIGHT next to the chest in Central 4.

We didnt kill anything out of the ordinary. Like most groups, we ran all the mobs (grah + goblin + meeble + euvhi) from the entrance to the chest, slept them there and killed. After we killed about 3 KI's worth it popped

EDIT: if one of them was an NM, theres no way to know since it's not like we were /checking them.... I had assumed that the placeholder would be some random mobs outside of the normal route people take and that's why it was not spawning... but I guess this disproves that.

To add to this, I was raw dogging points in Apollyon last night on the 3rd bug floor, pulling everything and killing it, and about 30 minutes or so in the ??? appeared right smack in the middle of the floor.
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-07-18 15:27:46
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Asura.Dexprozius said: »
Just ran a quick Temenos w/ LS on Asura and we accidentally spawned the Temenos ??? RIGHT next to the chest in Central 4.

We didnt kill anything out of the ordinary. Like most groups, we ran all the mobs (grah + goblin + meeble + euvhi) from the entrance to the chest, slept them there and killed. After we killed about 3 KI's worth it popped

EDIT: if one of them was an NM, theres no way to know since it's not like we were /checking them.... I had assumed that the placeholder would be some random mobs outside of the normal route people take and that's why it was not spawning... but I guess this disproves that.
Thanks for reporting but... why in the Sortie thread I wonder? °-°
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By Fenrir.Velner 2025-07-18 15:35:17
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Thanks for reporting but... why in the Sortie thread I wonder? °-°

Ooops, I didn't notice and was just going off the conversation jaja
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By Bismarck.Sterk 2025-07-18 16:18:32
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Fenrir.Jinxs said: »
What kind of party composition?
What weapons and subjobs?
I did a write-up on the video, but I'll repost it here.
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By Taint 2025-07-18 16:52:35
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Great write up, thank you!

Why BRD/WHM over RDM/WHM?
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By Bismarck.Sterk 2025-07-18 17:11:49
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Taint said: »
Why BRD/WHM over RDM/WHM?
A friend dual boxes both the BRD and RDM and I've asked him the same thing multiple times and all I get is "idk, lol". I'm sure both BRD/DRK + RDM/WHM and BRD/WHM + RDM/DRK are perfectly fine. Just make sure the BRD is getting hit with Caster's Roll at Aminon to help them get to 12 second Absorb TP recast.
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-07-18 17:13:12
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Asura.Sechs said: »
Asura.Dexprozius said: »
Just ran a quick Temenos w/ LS on Asura and we accidentally spawned the Temenos ??? RIGHT next to the chest in Central 4.

We didnt kill anything out of the ordinary. Like most groups, we ran all the mobs (grah + goblin + meeble + euvhi) from the entrance to the chest, slept them there and killed. After we killed about 3 KI's worth it popped

EDIT: if one of them was an NM, theres no way to know since it's not like we were /checking them.... I had assumed that the placeholder would be some random mobs outside of the normal route people take and that's why it was not spawning... but I guess this disproves that.
Thanks for reporting but... why in the Sortie thread I wonder? °-°

That was my mistake haha. But yeah theres no dedicated thread for Temenos (due to rarity). I can shift it to Limbus thread, or yall can delete, up to you guys
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