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April 2022 Version Update
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
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By Odin.Lusiphur 2022-04-04 10:23:43
Anyone get a Venus for trading in a Mars?
Wonder if it's possible.
Asura.Sechs
Server: Asura
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By Asura.Sechs 2022-04-04 10:32:58
did the emergency manteinance fix the EP loss for death in Aman Trove, perchance?
By RadialArcana 2022-04-04 10:34:56
They added a Mlevel down font too, maybe that was last month though.
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By Sylph.Funkworkz 2022-04-04 10:35:12
Maybe "Belligerent Bang" means a loud thud chest is on the field? After I opened the loud thud, I did not receive that message again. The loud thud was not adjacent to any others I opened previously.
Shiva.Thorny
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By Shiva.Thorny 2022-04-04 10:36:19
Maybe "Belligerent Bang" means a loud thud chest is on the field? that is what we've been thinking, yea
By SimonSes 2022-04-04 10:36:41
Maybe "Belligerent Bang" means a loud thud chest is on the field? After I opened the loud thud, I did not receive that message again. The loud thud was not adjacent to any others I opened previously.

Thats my guess too from few pages ago.
But even if you don't have Loud Thud already and you are not getting Bang msg, you still can get Loud Thud from Rainbow if you open 8.
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By Rips 2022-04-04 10:37:39
Seeing Rawhide triggers me.
I’ve gotten loud thuds without the bang message.
By Afania 2022-04-04 10:39:10
how do ppl sell orbs? if you invite buyers and take them in you risk them disbanding and opening mid chest?
if you fill inventory 80/80 so drops stay in loot pool you're under time pressure and risk losing full pool if you overlook time. can you even use /yell within the exit zone?
so ideally you'll want to run 1 multibox for this?
If you are the one paying for the orb then generally you start the pt, not the other way around.
1) the buyer invite the seller.
2) the seller use the orb to enter.
3) the buyer enters too, D2 the seller then disband the party.
4) buyer opens the chest as the only person in the pt.
That being said, 3) shouldn't be a requirement most of the time. There is rarely any seller who would risk the rep and do a *** move like that.
By SimonSes 2022-04-04 10:39:47
Seeing Rawhide triggers me.
I’ve gotten loud thuds without the bang message.
Bang only happens after you open 3 chests, so its possible you opened Loud in first 3 chests.
By RadialArcana 2022-04-04 10:40:36
did the emergency manteinance fix the EP loss for death in Aman Trove, perchance?
don't lose ep now
By RadialArcana 2022-04-04 10:42:43
Maybe "Belligerent Bang" means a loud thud chest is on the field?
I got loud thud box open and right after got the belligerent message.
Lakshmi.Buukki
Server: Lakshmi
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2022-04-04 10:44:19
That being said, 3) shouldn't be a requirement most of the time. There is rarely any seller who would risk the rep and do a *** move like that.
I have never had a buyer D2 me, and there was also a chance that one of the chests rewards 5,000,000G to the orb user, and the buyer never sees this loot even if they are the only person in the bc. Even though the buyer shouldn't care about getting the seller an extra 5m, the seller usually just drops party and can stay in zone and still get the reward (I think). That is, if the 5m gil reward wasn't removed recently.
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By Sylph.Funkworkz 2022-04-04 10:47:22
Maybe "Belligerent Bang" means a loud thud chest is on the field?
I got loud thud box open and right after got the belligerent message. Two loud thuds? Main gold middle chest possibly? I saw a couple SS in this thread with two loud thuds.
By SimonSes 2022-04-04 10:49:53
Maybe "Belligerent Bang" means a loud thud chest is on the field?
I got loud thud box open and right after got the belligerent message.
How fast you are opening those chests? Maybe you was opening so fast that Bang from previous chests poped after you clicked next chest that was loud?
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-04-04 10:51:14
That being said, 3) shouldn't be a requirement most of the time. There is rarely any seller who would risk the rep and do a *** move like that.
I have never had a buyer D2 me, and there was also a chance that one of the chests rewards 5,000,000G to the orb user, and the buyer never sees this loot even if they are the only person in the bc. Even though the buyer shouldn't care about getting the seller an extra 5m, the seller usually just drops party and can stay in zone and still get the reward (I think). That is, if the 5m gil reward wasn't removed recently. It seems that the 5M reward can only appear if a single person, not in a party, enters the battlefield
By SimonSes 2022-04-04 10:55:57
It seems that the 5M reward can only appear if a single person, not in a party, enters the battlefield
For sure not. Even Today I got 5M on a char that was in 3man party and 2 chars in the zone.
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By Asura.Bluespoons 2022-04-04 11:01:57
Can also confirm this isn't the case. 5 of us in party, 3 of us in the bcnm. I popped the chest and got the bonus.
By Rips 2022-04-04 11:02:27
Doesn’t matter for party size in regards to the 5M.
By Shichishito 2022-04-04 11:06:45
i think warp II is party only so you could avoid it by dropping party. iirc there is also a command to block warp II but not sure.
bottom line it's a trust based interaction under time pressure with risks involved unless you multibox to hold drops in pool and advertise drops in yell, then it's just trust based for the buyer.
i've seen ppl drop party to open BCNM chests back when ppl didn't have a army of mules/alts. today it's not uncommon to server hop for shopping, why not change name in the process?
trusting ppl wouldn't do it today cause they fear to lose reputation seems pretty naive.
last prices i can remember were 3mil for mars, 5mil for venus. don't know if they went down but i guess they'll go up now with new items in pool?
By Lobivopsis 2022-04-04 11:15:11
SE can't balance this around people having 16 x 99 chars, because then regular person with 1 x 99 would not see any good item in years.
In before "Everyone multiboxes these days it's the single boxers who aren't normal now"
Though I will say as a single boxer it does feel like everyone else has a phalanx of mules to buff them with 3000 ACC and 6000 ATT nowadays.
Shiva.Thorny
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By Shiva.Thorny 2022-04-04 11:17:07
Reality is someone selling orbs isn't going to trash their rep over one mystery orb in all likelihood. Just make sure you don't give them an opportunity to rip off pool after something fancy is in it, anything else is overthinking it, the world isn't out to get you on every minor transaction.
Shiva.Humpo
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By Shiva.Humpo 2022-04-04 11:19:35
Maybe "Belligerent Bang" means a loud thud chest is on the field?
I got loud thud box open and right after got the belligerent message.
Belligerent by definition is aggressive or hostile, so I'd me more inclined to think that message is in regards to the mimic...
By Lobivopsis 2022-04-04 11:21:12
I think people are mad dynamis shards are dropping because they paid like 50m for THF hands or whatever rather than farming them and now they're going to drop to a more reasonable price that the filthy plebes can afford. That and Dynamis is about to stop being the cash cow it's been in the past.
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By Asura.Aburaage 2022-04-04 11:28:45
I don't see the VR topic around, so did anyone get the ifrits KI yet? is it just from a mining point or is there something special to do?
After the cutscene with Rahal, I didn't do anything special but I managed to get the key item within three or four pickaxes. There probably isn't any sort of special requirement.
On this topic, full inventory trick doesn't work on this unfortunately :(
Lakshmi.Buukki
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
By Lakshmi.Buukki 2022-04-04 11:29:40
Dropping party is an act of courtesy, but that doesn't stop the seller from being a jerk and opening the boxes for himself. D2 is a reasonable option, but it is a verbal agreement and I am sure GMs might take action if you deliberately try to rip someone off by agreeing to a gil arrangement and then reneging on the offer.
As far as I know, the command to block d2 is /blockaid, but that shouldn't actually work if you're in the same party, since /blockaid is supposed to stop outside party members from using abilities/spells on you, and D2 is party only. Just respect the boy scout's honor system and warp out immediately after zoning in or after you see the result.
Asura.Erwins
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By Asura.Erwins 2022-04-04 11:30:37
Got Ashera Harness in Gold Chest, no Rainbow one.
Another run got a PLD Hand Shard in Rainbow one.
What does it mean the belligerent sound?
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2022-04-04 11:31:49
Or have someone you trust stand in the lobby just to ensure warp shenanigans cant happen. Only the person with the orb has to enter the BCNM.
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2022-04-04 11:35:45
Do you mean the possibility of the seller casting warp2 on the buyer? If so, I have never seen anybody be that shady of a measly Mars/Venus orb. Unless I'm not following what you mean by warp shenanigans. Thought you were talking about the buyer uses warp on seller after he enters, so the seller can't reneg
By waffle 2022-04-04 11:35:48
I don't see the VR topic around, so did anyone get the ifrits KI yet? is it just from a mining point or is there something special to do? I just mined at random mining points until I got it. Took me around seven pickaxes though.
I noticed there are two new peculiar NM RoE's after completing this month's missions, but I haven't tried fighting them yet.
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