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April 2022 Version Update
Server: Asura
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-04-04 11:42:40
Maybe "Belligerent Bang" means a loud thud chest is on the field?
I got loud thud box open and right after got the belligerent message.
Belligerent by definition is aggressive or hostile, so I'd me more inclined to think that message is in regards to the mimic... Belligerent refers to the noise (IE, it's loud and uncomfortable), not the thing creating it.
By Afania 2022-04-04 11:52:23
trusting ppl wouldn't do it today cause they fear to lose reputation seems pretty naive.
Umm....if seller pulled a *** move like that pretty soon the entire server would know. The buyer who got *** can just do a player warning in yell channel and nobody would ever buy anymore orb from that seller ever again.
3m to 5m isn't large amount of Gil. If you are an orb seller would you take the risk of never be able to sell more orbs in the future for that one time 3-5m free gil? I think not.
If someone really want to sacrifice their rep for free gil, they would probably pick something truly expensive, like KC. It's quite unlikely people would do that to cheap orbs.
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Lakshmi.Elidyr
Server: Lakshmi
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By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2022-04-04 11:54:57

Thinking you guys are right about the bang, and rainbow. Just had it happen myself.
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-04-04 12:01:00
3m to 5m isn't large amount of Gil. If you are an orb seller would you take the risk of never be able to sell more orbs in the future for that one time 3-5m free gil? I think not. What server still has orbs at 3-5m? Legit curious.
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By Asura.Seraphical 2022-04-04 12:04:28
Completing the newest VR missions yields another two RoE quests from Elijah. One in Reisenjima and another in Western Altepa Desert.
By Afania 2022-04-04 12:06:26
3m to 5m isn't large amount of Gil. If you are an orb seller would you take the risk of never be able to sell more orbs in the future for that one time 3-5m free gil? I think not. What server still has orbs at 3-5m? Legit curious.
I was just quoting Shichishito's number, lol.
Server: Bahamut
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By Bahamut.Unagihito 2022-04-04 12:28:24
Completing the newest VR missions yields another two RoE quests from Elijah. One in Reisenjima and another in Western Altepa Desert.
Reisenjima is a Hydra, seemed uneventful?
W. Altepa is a Behemoth that was spamming emotes and dropped some meteors.
By Rips 2022-04-04 12:35:00

Thinking you guys are right about the bang, and rainbow. Just had it happen myself.
Sex. That's awesome to see. I'm glad they're finally revealing what the noises are for the main chest.
Server: Odin
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By Odin.Senaki 2022-04-04 12:35:49
Can someone please explain to me what the rainbow box does? -- Do i open it or not?
By Shichishito 2022-04-04 12:36:09
Quote: last prices i can remember were 3mil for mars, 5mil for venus. don't know if they went down but i guess they'll go up now with new items in pool?
those prices are old and i expect them to have changed, never had a close eye on the market as i never participated in it.
you keep pointing out reputation but past has shown bad reputation doesn't stop scammers, good example are the oboro clones.
from what i've read there is the option to change name if your name is already taken on your target server which can be arranged.
Can someone please explain to me what the rainbow box does? -- Do i open it or not? only if you are part of the LGBTQ community.
Bahamut.Belkin
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By Bahamut.Belkin 2022-04-04 12:36:14
Oh yeah, you definitely open that rainbow box. It's a loud thud.
By ryukin182 2022-04-04 12:53:18
Its a loud thud, not a joke
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By Odin.Senaki 2022-04-04 12:55:35
last prices i can remember were 3mil for mars, 5mil for venus. don't know if they went down but i guess they'll go up now with new items in pool?
Prices were 3m/5m prior to deflation, and then they went down to 1m/3m and people stopped selling them. Then prices went back to 3m/5m with inflation. And I'd expect them to rise to 5m/7m given the recent change and demand of them.
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By Odin.Senaki 2022-04-04 12:56:01
Also: Ty guys, good to know. :)
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-04-04 12:57:02
On Asura at least, prices for Mars/Venus have been 1-1.2m/1.5-2m for a while.
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By Odin.Senaki 2022-04-04 12:58:33
On Asura at least, Prices for Mars/Venus have been 1-1.2m/1.5-2m for a while.
Ya crazy deflation hit. At least on Odin, if judging from +2 necks, we went from 80-100m necks -> 30m necks -> 60+m necks.
So I see the economy bouncing back.
Edit: Orbs are in a weird spot rn 'cuz they just had a major increase in demand over night. So we'll see where they land at the equilibrium price. :P
By Afania 2022-04-04 13:02:41
Quote: last prices i can remember were 3mil for mars, 5mil for venus. don't know if they went down but i guess they'll go up now with new items in pool?
those prices are old and i expect them to have changed, never had a close eye on the market as i never participated in it.
you keep pointing out reputation but past has shown bad reputation doesn't stop scammers, good example are the oboro clones.
from what i've read there is the option to change name if your name is already taken on your target server which can be arranged.
Can someone please explain to me what the rainbow box does? -- Do i open it or not? only if you are part of the LGBTQ community.
Oboro clones made WAY more than 3m lol, also making oboro clones doesn't take 45 days nor it needs lv99...
There are scammers spending 45 days + grind 99 lv just for a trove scamming mule, make 3m from scamming orbs, then pay $9-$18 to SE to change name or spend another 45 days for a new mule just to scam 3m again? Sounds like a very inefficient way to make money Lol.
Real scammers would just aim for higher prices items or Merc service instead. I find it hard to imagine scamming orb sales is even worth it. If I really want to scam someone, I'd just shout for selling bumba V20 win for 200m, take their money then bail. Lol @selling mars orb.
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Shiva.Thorny
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By Shiva.Thorny 2022-04-04 13:21:24
Isn't so much that everyone is 100% trustworthy, as the chances of being ripped off are low and the ability to protect yourself nonexistant.
If seller enters bc, they always have option to disband, pop flee, and get to chest first. They will be inside bc first because you can't even enter until after they do. Realistically, a perfect situation is not possible here, so some trust is required. Adding a bunch of needless steps to try to tell yourself it makes it safer is silly.
Asura.Saevel
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By Asura.Saevel 2022-04-04 13:34:36
Is it worth opening the chest after the thud or wait for a loud thud?
By Shichishito 2022-04-04 13:45:31
if we pretend someones reputation is instantly destroyed after the first scam, which it isn't cause it's a word against word scenario, you could also inverse the situation and falsely claim you've been scammed. that market would be dead pretty quickly.
so you probably can pull this multiple times befor no one trusts you anymore and then there is still different time zones and language barriers that restrict word of mouth which leads to more scam oportunities.
it's also clear that a server jumpers main profit margin is within exploitation of the individual server economies. the scam is just a cherry on top.
it is a trust based trade and you need to be aware of it befor you engage in it.
ofc there are more profitable scams but for the bumba clear one in your example you'd need at least 4 buddies or multiboxes or find a fool that pays befor you assembled the party.
also no one says scammers are very bright.
Asura.Lobbi
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By Asura.Lobbi 2022-04-04 13:47:29
The rainbow chest can be already popped when you enter the battlefield.
... and it was the loud thud.
Edit: Mars Orb
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By Asura.Bluespoons 2022-04-04 13:49:29
17 second record lol
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By Odin.Senaki 2022-04-04 13:49:41
Isn't so much that everyone is 100% trustworthy, as the chances of being ripped off are low and the ability to protect yourself nonexistant.
If seller enters bc, they always have option to disband, pop flee, and get to chest first. They will be inside bc first because you can't even enter until after they do. Realistically, a perfect situation is not possible here, so some trust is required. Adding a bunch of needless steps to try to tell yourself it makes it safer is silly.
I think ffxiah / discord add some degree to accountability on reputations. Word would spread pretty quickly if someone was scamming a person. On Odin anyway.
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By Odin.Senaki 2022-04-04 13:50:47
The rainbow chest can be already popped when you enter the battlefield.
... and it was the loud thud.
So it just randomly is present when you enter? I had the impression it appeared as you were randomly opening boxes.
That's really interesting.
If you get a Loud from the rainbow, can there be more louds in the other boxes?
By Agrestic 2022-04-04 13:56:40
Rainbow colored mimic in the dats. Have fun.
By RadialArcana 2022-04-04 13:56:49
If anyone gets a rainbow mimic please post a picture.
Asura.Lobbi
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By Asura.Lobbi 2022-04-04 13:56:55
Quote: So it just randomly is present when you enter? Yes
Quote: If you get a Loud from the rainbow, can there be more louds in the other boxes? I did not try, but I think so.
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By Odin.Senaki 2022-04-04 14:00:22
Quote: So it just randomly is present when you enter? Yes
Quote: If you get a Loud from the rainbow, can there be more louds in the other boxes? I did not try, but I think so.
Mucho gracias ~
Valefor.Philemon
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By Valefor.Philemon 2022-04-04 14:04:53
Anybody see a rainbow chest at the very start? Went for it, got a loud thud and a pulse weapon.
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By Odin.Senaki 2022-04-04 14:05:42
So I actually spoke to Greyson...
Belligerent Bang: "Provides a clue as to whether or not any of the remaining chests have particularly valuable rewards".
Rainbow Box: "They will always contain a highly-sought-after reward inside".
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