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November 2021 Version Update
By RadialArcana 2021-11-10 17:53:56
They are hoping more casual players start making groups more to just to farm and kill monsters in Dyna and Omen for gil / unlocks. Similar to what happens with Ambuscade.
By waffle 2021-11-10 18:06:50
For Voracious Resurgence mission 5-1...
1) Anyone have a better setup than fly lure to catch hoptoads? I have 110 fishing, Ebisu +1 and Lu+1. Tried both rods a couple dozen times each with fly lures (as noted on wiki page), and a handful of shrimp lure casts too. Reisenjima rivers (mostly the eastern one between #5 and #6, but a few tries in the western part of the zone too). Haven't had a single catch yet. Is it just this low of a rate for everyone, or maybe a better bait/location?
Just grabbed some various other bait now from the guild (meatball, insect paste, little worms, worm lure, sabiki rig) to see if anything else does better...
2) For Eastern Ginger, couple tips for easier ways to get them than hoping for gold boxes in Reisenjima:
a) If you have any Chocobucks (check Currencies 1 menu), can buy them for 3 bucks each.
b) Bhalflau Thickets harvesting is a pretty good rate. I got my 2 there, took only 3 harvesting points and a dozen or so harvesting attempts. For eastern ginger I just planted three arborscent seeds in the furrows and got 2 gingers out of them.
For the frogs I went to the bridge by the second warp point. It took me 4 casts. I got a monster on the first try, so I put on the noddy ring, and then the next 3 casts were the frogs.
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By Honeybaked 2021-11-10 18:12:45
Wonder if scales share drop slot with Astral Detritus or if it's an additional slot.
If it's the former then SE guys are really evil xD Wonder if scales share drop slot with Astral Detritus or if it's an additional slot.
If it's the former then SE guys are really evil xD I just want to see screenshots of people farming swarts but getting a dozen scales instead.
This post right above with the link to Caesir's twitter shows swart & scale dropping from the same mob. So that should answer that question.
The drop rate of the scales in Omen is actually decent if you use THF.
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Everytime a scale dropped I took a screenshot and posted on twitter if anyone wants to confirm it(forgot to take one scale drop on the second run)
twitter post link
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-11-10 18:39:26
(It was a joke)
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By Odin.Foxmulder 2021-11-10 20:10:26
From talking with others here on AH who spam Omen for Destritus, we've assumed Destritus is ~10% base drop rate. Using this small sample size, it's looking like the chance for a scale could be around ~5% and it looks like you get a random one from the set of them (unless they really bothered assigning specific scales to specific groups - seems doubtful).
Not too terrible, considering the majority of people doing Omen now are just farming Destritus. Newcomers/returners can do the same or make PUG groups, then set seacoms for a specific scale or just free-for-all. At least it's an option for folks who don't have the means to spam bosses.
By Draylo 2021-11-10 20:13:55
How often can you buy those keys from mandragora mania?
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By Fenrir.Melphina 2021-11-10 20:28:31
If the apex mobs are right at the entrance to promyvion holla that's kind of a middle finger to any lowbie players trying to do the CoP storyline missions. It's bad enough when you encounter Ilvl goblins in dangruf wadi unexpectedly, but throwing truesight aggro Ilvl 140 mobs in that dense of a cluster at the entrance to a mandatory storyline zone is just gonna cause newer players grief. I'd hope they move them out of the way a bit in a future patch.
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By Odin.Foxmulder 2021-11-10 20:38:56
This is the second time they've introduced higher level mobs to Promys. At least with the level 80 cap increase, most of them were in the middle of areas/corridors...
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By Fenrir.Melphina 2021-11-10 20:57:59
I have no issues with them if they're out of the way. But appaently the ones at holla are literally right by the zonein in a large enough pack that you cant get past em easily. That's an issue if you ask me. At least in Dem they're on floor 3 and 4, and off to the side enough that there is still a clean path to the spire if you have the map and know how to navigate the zone. They're Ilvl 140, truesight, and agressive. Newbie players shouldn't have to try and dodge that in a zone originally built for level 30 players when they're doing mandatory storyline content.
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By Carbuncle.Israfell 2021-11-10 21:05:07
No offense:
Lol at Rua having to do all new job guides now ><
By orionx3 2021-11-10 21:09:02
Are they prepping us for a new expansion?
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2021-11-10 21:11:23
Right at the entrance of promy holla
Nice to see they are still taking care of the PS2 players that had broken disc drives and couldn't/wouldn't install anything passed CoP.
Isn't it all PC now though? Is your install on PC still tied to whatever you had unlocked when you were on PS2? Jesus. Going out of their way to keep those old JP sticks-in-the-mud that would never pay for upgrading passed CoP on their SquareEnix account, if so.
(This goes back to my understanding that at the point of abyssea's initial release, they had added higher level monsters to Promyvion zones for the explicit reason that there were PS2 players with broken disc drives or people that would never buy new expansions and needed somewhere to exp after level cap was raised 76+).
Those players take "classic LV75 server" to the extreme if so.
Edit/clarification: I was under the understanding that it was more of a Japanese issue than any other language client. Something about how most FFXI JP players (or many/enough) would only play on PS2 are were real hold-outs about "CoP era and nothing else exists passed it". Hell, I guess even if it were just a single player that wouldn't upgrade, then they would have to make camps for them. I would think the numbers like this are very low, but then again... what happens on backwater servers stays on backwater servers. All console support was dropped years ago, like before abyssea release. Unless you're being sarcastic then NVM. Anywho, more apex camps, and a reason to keep the XP grind going is good things all around.
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2021-11-10 21:16:15
If the apex mobs are right at the entrance to promyvion holla that's kind of a middle finger to any lowbie players trying to do the CoP storyline missions. It's bad enough when you encounter Ilvl goblins in dangruf wadi unexpectedly, but throwing truesight aggro Ilvl 140 mobs in that dense of a cluster at the entrance to a mandatory storyline zone is just gonna cause newer players grief. I'd hope they move them out of the way a bit in a future patch. Quit being a newb, and cast RR on all dungeon runs, always have RR, it's cheap.
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2021-11-10 21:19:02
Are they prepping us for a new expansion? Final Fantasy XI, the final expansion. Main99/Sub99, midgrade content, endgame bosses that will take years to figure out how to kill. 20 more years of subscriptions as they dwindle down to 1 server, dedicated forever. Or until SE finally dies.
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By Draylo 2021-11-10 21:20:00
Yes to the far east, look forward to it
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By Asura.Aeonova 2021-11-10 21:40:59
Automaton skill is displayed as current level/max level right?(I honestly don't remember) >.>;
I just remember that even when capped, it would never be blue color text (numbers) if that helps.
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By Asura.Zetaking 2021-11-10 21:49:13
I dont know if anyone has posted this yet, but the apex emptys Mirage move it at least +150 evasion and last 3 mins but can be stolen(as a blu at least) also I swear the apex crawlers hit twice as hard as they do >.>
i dint take numbers on there def boost but i think it was stronger than cocoon, good thing is it seems blus def downs will stop the def up effect
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By Fenrir.Melphina 2021-11-10 22:03:14
Yeah, Mirage is an extremely high amount of evasion buff. I'm planning to find out just how much it is when i get around to exping on my thf. I'll check with aura steal one of these days if nobody else has first. I'm curious.
By alzeerffxi 2021-11-10 22:04:04
This is the second time they've introduced higher level mobs to Promys. At least with the level 80 cap increase, most of them were in the middle of areas/corridors... I remamber jump from 75 to 80 and ppl saying promies exp was better than abyssea before i found out how it worked i farmed there lost 4 days of my life.
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By Odin.Foxmulder 2021-11-10 22:27:13
Yeah, people tried to make a lot of random new camps work and laid into them until the community learned how to appropriately EXP in Abyssea. Misareaux birds were pretty decent.
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2021-11-10 22:35:28
So..... Easing requirements for +2+3 JSEs, and all this buff stuff hints at 2 things.
1 is a new expansion. 2 a system to fuse all three of the major sets into one badass ultra set. +10 inventory per job you are truly mastering, is a perk. Probably pretty extensive and time consuming, not counting how expensive and time consuming it already is to max 5/5+3 artifact and relics as is, and what ever hoops to +3 empy will be as well. All culminating in a final step to fuse all 15 items, down to the last final fantasy ultimate 5/5 set that has all the bonuses rolled into one. If it came with a brand new look per set to lock style also, I doubt people would complain.
A true (end all) full time set. Whilst still having the rest of the slots ring/ear/neck/back slots getting the bulk of future gear swapping focus.
Speculation, but fun speculation, maybe do the same for REMAs also.
By soralin 2021-11-10 22:52:13
RR doesnt help you with instantly being one tapped by true sight mobs that will then hang around right on top of your corpse, ngl...
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By Leviathan.Draugo 2021-11-10 22:56:15
RR doesnt help you with instantly being one tapped by true sight mobs that will then hang around right on top of your corpse, ngl... Run faster... Or... Take your time, you think a few Apex mobs are a nuisance in this day and age? must have never made a climb back in the OG days.
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By Asura.Zetaking 2021-11-10 23:42:31
well it is at least 150, its just a few times it was a slight bit more not sure if it was maybe something with my gear i dint notice or something to do with the amount of tp they used it with
By DaneBlood 2021-11-10 23:55:17
All console support was dropped years ago, like before abyssea release. Unless you're being sarcastic
No you are just wrong,
Abyssea was relased in 2010. cconsolo support was fully droppedd in 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XI
I know plenty of my regular abyssea group that was playing on x360
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By Pantafernando 2021-11-11 00:56:01
By stuoobey 2021-11-11 01:03:45
Yes, 2016 was when they shut down PS2 and Xbox 360 servers, although FFXI still requires PS2 devkits to do any major updates, it's still a PS2 game ported to the PC.
That's why we have limits on what they can add, I think we'd all love to see a new expansion, not sure if they can squeeze many more new maps out though (It's why we keep seeing old maps reused).
With master points being slowly released and updated, they've found a way to keep everyone busy until the 20th anniversary and whatever they have planned.
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By Bosworth 2021-11-11 01:16:47
We see old reused assets because they don't have a dev team/budget to make many new things. "Ps2 dev kits" has nothing to do with anything.
By stuoobey 2021-11-11 03:28:00
Unfortunately the PS2 devkit does still have an impact on FFXI today, the devs do what they can, but old limitations still exist, it's why we see new NPC's placed in strange areas, or it's a minor miracle if we get a new trust squeezed out.
You are right to say a lack of resources and budget though, if we had these we could move away from the current limitations, imagine FFXI, a realm reborn....
Who knows, maybe SE have been squirreling away extra money for the 20th anniversary, we could see something really special, we can dream at least :)
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