Sahagin Ambuscade V1

So I found a neat useless thing.

When the DRG's jump, you can WS them without retaliation. I guess they're stuck in ability delay.

Shaves a couple seconds off soloing.

Nobody tell the Sahagins about ja0wait and ruin this

This ones up again next week


It should be pretty simple with 2 years of power creep and dt on everything. Just a little Aoe enthunder and splat.

If you do the update and log in before the windower team updates the resources you will see the incorrect TP move names. They know. It happens every time. Just launch windower again to fix it.

So anyone tried it with the new changes? is it better? worse? strat the same? Not had a chance to do it yet but I find it very interesting no one posted anything, is it that bad?

A lot easier then last time with the changes for both solo and party play in my opinion. Gives substantially more time to take out the mobs before respawn.

I'm unsure what you mean by "better", but the changes equated a pretty significant nerf - longer cooldown on Cleansing Bubble, longer add respawn time (doubled, in fact), and no more cumulative debuff resistance build up on the Songstress, are the meaningful ones. So yes, both strats (silencing and not silencing the Songstress) are still viable.

Yeah it got stupid, VD seems to be a DPS check where you gotta kill them with the regen effect going.

we tried it a few times on VD without silence and it just wasn't happening. we just did several D and it was smooth sailing.

~5min runs, don't Silence SAM SAM BRD COR SCH GEO

Fight in middle
Jinpu to kill everything and SC
Team up on MNK so both SAMs are not guarded.
Resleep as stuff wakes up stuff.

You guys just WS spamming or multi stepping? Also how do you avoid the charm without a pup?

Kill faster.

SC of course, and charm was never really a problem would just charm the SCH sometimes for like 30sec

Using SP's? Did you pull to the corner and sleep then fight near the songstress or just fight everything right on top of her?

Any reason SCH over WHM? With all the debuffs I would think WHM would be easier with erase etc.

Fought in middle.

SPs are not needed


Just what we used either is fine of course

Bubbles wakes everything up doesn't it? Don't you have the mobs chasing everyone down then?

GEO bubbles? Not something I saw happening but maybe I missed it

Only thing we saw waking up everything was WHM

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Cleansing Bubbles, the Songstress uses Cleansing Bubbles every 60s, which wipes all her debuffs and the debuffs of every mob within 20 yalms. It's the entire reason people sleep the adds at a distance.

https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Category:Ambuscade#Intense_Ambuscade_.28Vol._One.29

Are you sure you didn't fight it on D, because this is sounding like easy 5min D wins. Massive difference between the two in terms of difficulty.

I mean SE might of adjusted Cleansing to only remove her debuffs, but no one has reported that yet.

Resleep? It was not really a problem for us


Have never tired D was doing VD

Need Nitro due to how resistant they get to sleep on VD. And the Kraken is immune to it anyhow.


Riighht...
Given the lack of answers to some of the basic battle mechanics involved and nothing but "IDK git gud". Everything you've responded with indicated runs on D. Like the reason most use WHM is the stronger Barthunder to help against Spinning Fists 15s stun. On D that would only be 10~15% HP regen, on VD it's 30~45%. Then again, someone else could be the one who actually set it up and has answers to the mechanics of VD instead of "git gud".

Was not a problem for us, Normally killed Kraken first.

Our BRD didn't need nitro to resleep


Only other details I can share that have not said already is we used Jinpu and team up for MNK mobs so both SAMs are not getting WS guarded. Once all the adds are died Jinpu boss to death

Edit: also never saw cleansing bubble on runs we didn't silence.

Never once have I said "git gud" but yeah maybe your group is not ready to do VD Saevel...

Like I said.

Guess I don't understand what mechanics you are struggling to understand?

Because you didn't set it up, someone else told you what to do and organized everything.

It would be like asking the GEO how to kill Ongo and them replying "cast bubbles, SC and git gud".

So to actual mechanics. We think Cleansing Bubbles is not a TP move but on a timer. One time we used Absorb-TP every 8~9s and it was always 0, and she still used Bubbles, but the timer seems to now be linked to Silence landing. The mobs still get a 15% HP regen every 3s but seem to be more vulnerable to SC damage. Spinning Fin sucks, so thunder resistance is recommended, maybe even using a bard song slot for it. If bubbles is only used after silence, then we can gather in the middle and nitro sleep should last the entire fight and now the respawning mobs don't have any status ailment resistance built-up either.

That is why I asked you about Bubbles, and your response told me you have no idea about the fight and just played a single role.

it never uses Cleansing Bubbles if you don't silence. Hence why I asked if you talking about GEO bubbles...

You didn't even know that and admitted as much.

IF your not silencing, make sure to spam dispelga on mobs as minuet will destroy everyone.

Thanks for the jinpu tip Bip!

I was Brd

I did songs

I cast Sleep

We won...

8min...

I will sing harder tonight