Ataktos Trials: Capping Haste With Trusts?

So working my way through the trials for this gun and... are there any trusts that actually cap your haste?

Or am I gonna need to use Blitzer's Roll?

Also, any recommended targets to make this process easier? Ive been just doing stuff in abyssea but my Cor mule doesnt have many atmas, and only 1 lunar abyssite, so she's kinda weak when it comes to WS spamming there.

King of Hearts will cast Haste 2 on you, and Joachim + Ulmia will eventually get you at least one march, capping you.

Thoughts on good targets? Ive been doing the uragnites outside adoulin but they are extremely overcamped so, it can often be hard to tag one.

if you got enough acc or in this case racc which is generally even easier to pile on, apex mobs are the best HP sponges if available

I would find an escha NM (preferably Zi-tah, but this depends on your gear level etc) that is the proper family for your trial. There is only one trial that requires the WS to be a killshot on TP bonus weapons iirc.

So thumb through the UNM registry, Escha NMs and Apex mobs to find something you can spam the WS's on preferably in perpetuity. This is obviously with the exception of the killshot trial, I would do that one in Abyssea using brew; this can be doable even without much progress if your mule has done lots of voidwatch. If they don't have much cruor, then on that trial you might have to get a bit more creative.

5 years later and Im honest to god bumping this because its genuinely still an issue for me on Cor lol

I googled this problem Im having, this thread came up and I was like "Oh sick I wonder who posted- Oh... it was me..."

Is there any trust that actually is smart enough to overwrite Haste with Haste II?

Im using Ygnas as my healer and Sylvie for fat damage boost, but both of them cast Haste on me, which causes any other Haste II casting trust I use to just... not do it.

Joachim will cast one March on me, but Ulmia + Joachim dont reliably double march me.

Sylvie only puts Attack up on me of course.

But I definitely want that massive attack boost from Sylvie, and I want to use Ygnas for curing too.

So is there even a way to reliably cap haste without babysitting your buffs and removing Haste I over and over every 2~3 min?

It's been said that Arciela will. Never seen it.

(Not Arciela II)

Worth noting her downside is she will not refresh other mages, and has an AoE

Nice, just tested this and can confirm she overwrote Haste I with Haste II

She also casts Haste II as priority 1 (unlike other Haste II trusts), so she tends to pop it off before Ygnas/Sylvie right away.

But even if she doesnt, looks like it works, thank god.

I'm presuming you're making a TP Bonus gun.
You only need a fat damage boost on trial 2247 (detonator killing blow), and thats only if you are unable to drop targets from 90 to 0 with the shitty lv85 gun.

Every other trial is usage based, your only concern should be "pls dont miss".

1783/1784: apex eruca in Moh
1785: apex raptors in Moh (Lizard type)
1786: Apex eruca in Moh (vermin type)
2247: any abyssea beast type, this is your only killshot trial
2658: If you can make the accuracy requirement work to land WS 95% of the time: Locus Warrior in KRT, otherwise find some moderately high lvl undead.
3091: Apex Raptors (lizard type)
3554: Apex Mandragora in Sih

No I finished that 5 years ago lol

The issue is the same one as now though: Capping magic haste with just trusts on Cor sucks a lot, it seems Arciela+Joachim so far is genuinely the only combo I'm finding that actually will do it.

Everyone else gives us other stuff or fails to reliably apply Haste II.

It sucks because Arciela stays in melee range, which means she can get whacked by AoEs and isnt terribly tanky from my experience, so she's highly likely to get folded in half by actually challenging content.

Disregard then :)

Unless someone wants that info for the future.

King of Hearts always gives Haste II to his summoner. His only downside is AOEs, so just account for that and you get Dia III, 5 minute Haste II.

Use Joachim, and you get Victory March.

Ulmia will put Preludes on you, so if you need Racc, use her.

It's not hard, but you can't use Koru.

I use Arciela + Joachim + Ulmia. It sucks to have to double up on bards, but it increases the chances that at least one of them will sing march. At least it buffs Naegling. It's much better when we have Cornelia.

So...we're circling back to the answer from years ago, the first reply, which remains accurate. If you want to cap haste, do this.

The only downside is that he does some AoE, so it depends on what you're fighting (and, importantly, which SCs you're making). I guess one of his moves is conal, but I've never noticed it aggroing/pulling mobs. Take it with a grain of salt though because I don't do that much content with trusts.

As far as I am seeing, King of Hearts is not applying Haste II if I already have Haste "I" on me.

Wait longer. He casts it as his like 3rd or 4th buff.

I always thought that AI was exclusive to Arc1(maybe 2 as well) and king has the same issue where if he sees haste active on the player he wont overwrite

Correct. Remove your haste 1 buff and he will cast haste 2 on you with a duration of 5 minutes. alternatively, don't use a trust that casts haste 1.

You may have missed the post since its in the middle but this is the context of the convo:


And the answer I got was that Arciela will overwrite Haste I with Haste II, but she has her own downsides as a sorta squishy melee who can get AoEd to death

She's not a melee, and will stay at range if you move the mob away from her. Her main issue is no Dia at all, she takes a bit to re-up Haste II, and like ygnas she has both regain and a potential AoE

Oh gotcha, so akin to Koru, I can work with that.

The other minor good thing with her is that her aoe is just aoe amnesia(that doesnt land), so if you have stuff slept its a non-issue, unlike ygnas who applies dmg and will wake everything