Let's Start A Riot?!?!

Oh No WhO CoUlD hAvE SeEn ThIs CoMiNg ?!1!

should the movie be taken down because of this scene?

I honestly hope they all go on strike, none of the democratic leaders of their cities have their back. I would love to see the public outrage when all the cops quit and they are forced to cry for them to come back instead of abolishment.

Not if you were accused of judaizing.

Other heresies perhaps.

Alternate reading of Mayan calendar suggests end of the world is next week

Woah.
https://www.knoxnews.com/in-depth/news/investigations/2019/04/24/usa-today-revealing-misconduct-records-police-cops/3223984002/


Just a few bad apples though

Curious if there are any standards in reporting, as far as making a complaint by the public. Being nobody is going to thoroughly review 200,000 "alleged" incident reports from the media to actually know how many were legit and how many were just made by some nutjob who didn't think they had to adhere to the law that day and were mad someone was making them do so.

wonder what the statistics are for last 4 years and last 12.

Has the Peoples Democratic Republic of CHAZ started handing out Passports and Entry Visas yet? Established diplomats? How about appointing one to the UN so they can complain about their struggle? Lord knows the UN would grant them the voice.

This needs to happen and it's been coming a very long time. Due to the embedded "Us vs Them" culture we're not going to get any meaningful reform from within. I've always said that the vast majority of LEO's were good people and that it was the minority that was the issue. Problem being that the Police culture demanded that All Police Officers be protected, which by definition includes the sadistic power trippers. Those LEO's that get feel enjoyment from seeing and inflicting suffering on other people, especially those they view as lower then them. Or those so apathetic and confident in their union protection that they just do whatever they want regardless.

Reminds me of the body cam footage of the LEO planting drug evidence at a suspects house. The slimy *** didn't realize the camera is actually always recording and that it captured the 30s prior to him turning it on. We got to see him "pretend" to find the drug's he had just planted. Initially the Police Department said it was totally fine, then when the video hit public everything changed.

That's the kind of ***we're talking about, Officer shoots mentally disabled man kneeling, "he feared for his life" and totally justified. Officer plants meth in the back of a mans car, "well he found it there earlier anyway", totally "justified". Officer enters the wrong apartment and shoots the surprised owner, "off was in fear for their life" and "totally justified". All that comes out of the Police Department leadership is "justified", and for good reason. LEO's don't want to look bad, they think it makes them "look weak" to those "Drug Dealing Gangsters". So even if one officer is breaking the law, planting evidence, shooting people, it's fine to excuse and protect them because in doing so they are also protecting the other 499 officers.

Exact same ***the Catholic Church was doing for the exact same reason. Allowing bad people access to power because it protects the image of the entity itself.

The wildest part of LEO incidents lately is that they're doing it even with the spotlight on them. This is them on their best behavior.

Here ya go, chock down on this for a moment.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/bs-md-ci-pinheiro-ruling-20181109-story.html

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/07/20/538279258/baltimore-police-caught-planting-drugs-in-body-cam-footage-public-defender-says



Seriously .... dude admits he was creating evidence that is used to convict people, or most likely press them into a plea deal.


Holy mother of ... three year suspended for fabricating evidence to convict people.

And the worst part



Dude is still a Police Officer, still being paid and will likely keep his job.

Oh and look, over two years later the corrupt piece of ***is still on the force and being paid.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/bs-md-ci-cr-pinheiro-appeal-20200309-ze3hkbq7vrfcfdnaeixx3rjqvu-story.html

That ***right there is why there are riots and fires and random police shooting. The tolerance of that level of corruptness is why all this insanity is happening right now. This wasn't something that just materialized out of no where, for decades now the Police have been corrupt and worse then the gangsters they are at war with. The recent deaths caught on phone cameras are just the spark, the Police have been building this bonfire all on their own.

Lets post some more just to show how ridiculously widespread planting evidence is.

https://gothamist.com/news/video-shows-nypd-officer-awkwardly-tossing-weed-into-brooklyn-mans-car

The whole department was in on it

https://www.thedailybeast.com/baltimore-cops-turned-off-body-cameras-before-finding-drugs

https://gothamist.com/news/nypd-detectives-with-history-of-alleged-misconduct-accused-of-planting-drugs-in-queens-apartment

It's a frequent pattern, cop turns off camera, plants evidence, turns on camera to suddenly "find" the evidence. Evidence is used to pressure the defendant to a plea deal, officers high five each other for "another victory" against Evil Drug Gang Members.

See LEO's view each and every citizen as a member of the Evil Drug Gangs, so them planting evidence on us is totally acceptable as we likely had it coming. After all they are only protecting the good guys, which includes them and only them.

That is why Body Cameras need to be 100% mandatory on every on duty police officer. If the Camera is turned off, automatic suspension pending review of why it was turned off. If the Police Officer was at the scene of a suspected crime and Camera is turned off, all evidence at that scene becomes inadmissible. Period. End Of Story. Camera goes off, then zero charges can be filed, and absolutely NO exceptions.

Basically LEO's have shown that they can't be trusted and that they are no better then the gang members they are in a war with. When it's standard practice for a LEO to plant evidence, while other LEO's standby and watch, well can you blame the public for not trusting LEO's?

because reading articles is hard!!!


highlighted the key words that show you fell for a framing device like a moron. almost every single case in that database is an ACCUSATION. do you have any earthly idea of how INSANELY frequently people lie about their arresting officer thinking they might get off? its almost a guarantee in some areas.

Now onto the integrity of the database itself, and its inherent flaws

1. of the 85,000, only 30,000 of them were found to have merit, and were subsequently punished. the other 55,000 were found to be bogus or dropped.
2. It includes Corrections officers - E.G. Probation officers,Prison Guards, Juvinile Detention Guards Etc - these are not the same as police officers.
3. It includes Non officers, like private eyes, state law enforcement officials (i.e. non-cops), and the like that were given some degree of law enforcement authority, but not associated with any police precinct. This accounts for 1/5th of the accusations that led to dismissal or suspension
4. of the 30,000 officers that had their licenses revoked or permanently removed (this is an important distinction), only roughly 10,000 of them were permanent dismissals - E.G. they committed a felony in the course of policing. the remaining 20,000 were Suspensions, Which the reason for suspension is not listed. These could be anything from a cop on cop locker brawl, to punching in early/late to actual misdemeanor crime.
5. OF those permanent revocations, 2000 of them were from NON POLICE AGENCIES.


So in actuality - 8000 cops, over eight years, have committed crimes worthy of permanent firing. The average police force size nation wide is roughly 1.1-1.3 million. the last data i could find available was 1.09 m in 2012 with a yearly growth of about 1~2%, so a loose guess is that 1.1 is a low ball estimation for our 2020 policing size.

This translates into .007 of the police force has committed a felony level crime. Over eight years. the yearly average of infractions is 0.0009 of cops per year. This number also included the Correctional type officers as a FYI. The database does not have the officer category available in a crunchable format for me to extract them effectively so they were left in. this means that the number is potentially even lower than what ive listed.

you quite literally have a 99.99% effective police force by their own data.

Any words now that we've established you took this clickbait hook line and sinker?

And icing on the cake, both the DA's office and the Police Leadership know this stuff is happening and deliberately turn from it.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/07/23/flor-j23.html




This isn't about one lone bad cop doing dirty stuff under the radar, no this is blatant corruption and *** over civilians in the name of promotions. If any LEO or those "supporting our Officers" want to know why there are riots and burnings, go look in the mirror and see the culprit.

Oh now cute, you actually trust police records. You know, the guys who plant evidence and falsify records then get their boss's to cover their ***. It doesn't matter the ratio of good vs bad, the moment the leadership supports and protects the bad it becomes a 100% bad ratio.

I say fire them all, start from scratch. This kind of systemic corruption can't be fixed from within.

i could absolutely get behind this. Body cams should only be turned off when the officer needs privacy for personal calls and bathroom breaks, or when entering a place where recording is restricted.

it would lead to more accountability, and that .00009 of bad cops to be incapable of doing most of their bad actions.

Id say something with a bit from both sides.

Fire/Quit/Strike, get meaningful reforms, No Knock Warrants eliminated, 100% Body Cameras/Dash Cams, no choke holds, non of that immunity, but get better protection from their Chiefs, DAs, and Mayors, not like the cowardice thrown under the bus crap that is going on now. And keep their funding, stop the defund police rhetoric. It's stupid. Someone has to police the people, we are not capable of doing it ourselves, as much as we wish we could.

1 bad cop and 99 cops watch bad cop be bad, 100 bad cops.

Oh i dont disagree with you that the data is bunk. this is data collected and agregated by a third party rather than the police themselves. i've already pointed out the inherent flaws in the data, and i wouldnt trust it regardless because the people who built the database clearly know literally *** about data aggregation and analysis.

i do disagree about starting from scratch tho. Reform is absolutely the way. Soul crushingly hard reform. deleting the police will lead to even more corruption and issues than we have today- end of story.

On the political aspect of it: i'll clue you into why the D's are so behind the concept of delete the police: Its one of the last intercity republican bastions. like 90% of police officers identify as republicans or conservatives. It's the same strategy the left has used since forever - brand the right as intolerable, and chase them out of any position of power that they can, so their echo chamber becomes absolute. i mean was it a mystery as to why this is mostly only happening in democratic cities?

ah, so you're incapable of admitting you got juked then?

Want a hint: Most cops cant enforce against another cop unless they witness the crime. this is why internal affairs departments exist. Even if 99 cops know the 1 is crooked, unless their IA department can prove it, those 99 Cops cant do ***.

Can you just admit your bias on this? i've shown you time after time that you are wrong, innacturate, and out of touch. continuing to just double down when you've been proven this wrong, is just embarrassing to watch.

*** are you even talking about, are you talking to yourself?

No one here will ever admit their bias. LOL.

And CJ was better to watch foam at the mouth. Comical if not a bit sad and worrying.

i'm talking about you in regards to your willful ignorance, and your blatant bigotry.

Hey, take a chill pill. Maybe a 5 min breather.

Of course I'm bias, pigs are pieces of ***. ALL of them.

You would know that if you paid attention.

No, they're not all murders and rapists. They're just all bad cops.

There's a difference. You're not only bad if you kill innocent people.