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By Prong 2020-06-10 13:00:35
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the truth is that it's going to be AOC's wing of the party sooner rather than later.

That's scary as AOC is literally the one of the 3 most ignorant and flat out stupid people I've ever seen in a TV interview. The other two being Megan Fox and that skinny Jessie weirdo who used to be an MTV VJ. She's the Democrat's version of Trump.
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By Asura.Saevel 2020-06-10 13:02:14
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Leftist: These are your "to the left of the Chairman" types. They're the ones who talk about things like general strikes. They mostly go for Bernie here but will grumble that he doesn't go far enough. They want an actual, in the streets revolution. Some of them might even participate instead of waiting for others to do it for them! Everyone holds up Bernie as the figurehead for these types; the truth is that it's going to be AOC's wing of the party sooner rather than later.

Aka Communists / Marxists also known as Modern Progressiveism.

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Progressive: An attempt at a middle ground. These people want sizable reforms without burning it all down. Think Elizabeth Warren.

These groups have the exact same destination in mind, a singular collective government. The only difference is in how fast they want to get there, the first group wants to get there yesterday and be damned with the consequences, the other is content getting there in decades.

I would agree on the core Democrats being classic liberal, except for some reason they keep voting to support extremists.

This isn't a dig at the Democrats, for a while the Republicans were run by racist southern "Christians" that demanded we all had to pray every morning to know which cereal to eat. Then went out and did hookers and drugs when they thought nobody was watching.
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By Idiot Boy 2020-06-10 13:02:26
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Idiot Boy said: »
Progressive: An attempt at a middle ground. These people want sizable reforms without burning it all down. Think Elizabeth Warren.
Sir, in my opinion, rest of post is good, I would just disagree that Elizabeth Warren would fit here. May I counter with Senator Mark Warren from VA?

Warner's not a bad example, but Warren really does fit in this bucket. She tacked left in the primaries to try and pick up ground, but her policy stances really are "fix things, don't blow them up". The true leftists want revolution, and that's why they never went for her.
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By Asura.Saevel 2020-06-10 13:03:37
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Just tell me what I call self-righteous ideologues who brush aside fact for perceived notions because it gets them pats on the back from "American liberals."

Radicals
Cult Members
Religious Fanatics
Zealots

Pick one
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By Idiot Boy 2020-06-10 13:04:28
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That's scary as AOC is literally the one of the 3 most ignorant and flat out stupid people I've ever seen in a TV interview

You can disagree with the policy aims, but if you think she's an idiot you haven't ever watched her in a hearing. If you're going to be scared of her, be scared that she's competent and might actually accomplish some things.
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By Prong 2020-06-10 13:05:24
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Prong said: »
Just tell me what I call self-righteous ideologues who brush aside fact for perceived notions because it gets them pats on the back from "American liberals."

Radicals
Cult Members
Religious Fanatics
Zealots

Pick out.

I'm atheist so I'll go with zealots.
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By Prong 2020-06-10 13:07:32
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Prong said: »
That's scary as AOC is literally the one of the 3 most ignorant and flat out stupid people I've ever seen in a TV interview

You can disagree with the policy aims, but if you think she's an idiot you haven't ever watched her in a hearing. If you're going to be scared of her, be scared that she's competent and might actually accomplish some things.

I've unfortunately watched her many times. There are many examples of statements she has made that are flat out wrong or when she gets pushed for facts, she dives into virtue signaling immediately to try and discredit the interviewing party. I do fear how ignorant our populace has become to actually think this person is someone who is mentally fit to lead in any capacity.

By the way, do you recall a Chojkan?
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By volkom 2020-06-10 13:12:37
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volkom said: »
Cops tv show canceled and some cities are banning the use of tear gas.
Is Live PD Still going to air??? Love that show....whenever I get the chance to watch it.

no clue. guess i'll wait for reruns of Dredd, Robocop and Hot Fuzz to stop happening.
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By Prong 2020-06-10 13:13:34
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Lol, wow. HBO has now pulled 'Gone With the Wind" from their library, "until it can return with historical context." One of a small handful of movies that has been consistently rated one of if not the best movie of all time (not my opinion, but) is now suddenly taboo due to our overzealous social media/media selective outrage campaign.

This is turning into that, "Baby, It's Cold Outside" Christmas song cancelling because of the left-of-middle-center's #metoo short lived condemnation of everything.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gone-with-the-wind-pulled-from-hbo-max-until-it-can-return-with-historical-context/ar-BB15hijU
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By Prong 2020-06-10 13:14:48
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volkom said: »
Carbuncle.Skulloneix said: »
volkom said: »
Cops tv show canceled and some cities are banning the use of tear gas.
Is Live PD Still going to air??? Love that show....whenever I get the chance to watch it.

no clue. guess i'll wait for reruns of Dredd, Robocop and Hot Fuzz to stop happening.

Glad I got Hot Fuzz DL'd via torrents last year before my ISP almost nixed me for nabbing a Naruto movie from TV Tokyo with a tracker.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-06-10 14:16:13
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Unfortunately they've all joined together in one unholy alliance known as the Democrat Party. And it's more Liberals / Progressives, "left" is just a direction typically on the old Conservative (no change / change slowly) vs Liberal (change fast) line. During the 20th century Marxism / Communism demanded the entire world change to this ultra idealistic society which is only "left" as it demanded rapid change in the form of workers over throwing their governments.

Ehhhh, they really are three separate groups. Here, a humble field guide.

Leftist: These are your "to the left of the Chairman" types. They're the ones who talk about things like general strikes. They mostly go for Bernie here but will grumble that he doesn't go far enough. They want an actual, in the streets revolution. Some of them might even participate instead of waiting for others to do it for them! Everyone holds up Bernie as the figurehead for these types; the truth is that it's going to be AOC's wing of the party sooner rather than later.

Liberal: The core constituency of the DNC. In most European countries they'd be a center right party. They get chided by the other wings of the party about their love of big business (and the ensuing campaign donations). Most people think that Hillary Clinton is the standard bearer for these types; the reality is that it's Chuck Schumer.

Progressive: An attempt at a middle ground. These people want sizable reforms without burning it all down. Think Elizabeth Warren.

If any of them could agree on anything for more than ten minutes (and they found someone who was actually good at politics to help them), they might accomplish something! Neither of those things is likely to happen.
Let's be honest with each other.

The "right" is just as guilty as combining leftist/progressive/liberals as the "left" is as combining conservatives/libertarians/"alt-right" into one group.

It's a tribal mentality. It is better to be angry at a larger group of people who you don't agree with than it is to be angry at 3 separate groups for separate reasons.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-06-10 14:21:25
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That's scary as AOC is literally the one of the 3 most ignorant and flat out stupid people I've ever seen in a TV interview

You can disagree with the policy aims, but if you think she's an idiot you haven't ever watched her in a hearing. If you're going to be scared of her, be scared that she's competent and might actually accomplish some things.
I'm sorry, but anyone who claims to have an "economics degree" and celebrates destruction of free market society (among the fact that she personally attacked Amazon and was the leading cause of them taking their proposed 2nd HQ from her own district and moving it elsewhere, and have the gall to celebrate the fact that her own constitutes just lost thousands of high-paying jobs just because she doesn't understand basic governmental tax laws doesn't make her a competent person.

I rather have a smart enemy than a stupid ally. She does more damage to the Democrat party than she can ever do to the Republican party.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-06-10 14:25:45
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She saved her constitutes from shitty slave labor jobs. *** amazon.
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By Prong 2020-06-10 14:27:38
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She saved her constitutes from shitty slave labor jobs. *** amazon.

Yep, saved them from that paycheck. Bless her!
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-06-10 14:35:50
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You would literally hand pick cotton just because it's a paycheck.

News flash, not all jobs created are jobs people should be doing. Amazon is literal slavery, yet millions line up to work there.

Preying on desperation, and you cheer them on. What a world.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2020-06-10 14:35:52
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Idiot Boy said: »
Prong said: »
That's scary as AOC is literally the one of the 3 most ignorant and flat out stupid people I've ever seen in a TV interview
You can disagree with the policy aims, but if you think she's an idiot you haven't ever watched her in a hearing. If you're going to be scared of her, be scared that she's competent and might actually accomplish some things.
I'm sorry, but anyone who claims to have an "economics degree" and celebrates destruction of free market society....
Are you saying that we actually have a free market economy in this country?



At my age I am selling off assets. I have a bridge I no longer utilize. We could discuss a price...
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By volkom 2020-06-10 14:52:16
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Amazon is literal slavery

don't ever order anything from Amazon, Watch Netflix or Hulu

if you do, you support slavery
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-06-10 14:52:16
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Oh, well damn. this is live right now. Live: House considers police reform, George Floyd's brother to testify

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaE-92gmthU (fox)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9blInhJaxQ (WP)
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By Cerberus.Hideka 2020-06-10 14:54:26
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You would literally hand pick cotton just because it's a paycheck.

News flash, not all jobs created are jobs people should be doing. Amazon is literal slavery, yet millions line up to work there.

Preying on desperation, and you cheer them on. What a world.

boi you need to lay off the crackpipe. do you understand the phrase "at will" at all?

Nobody forces them to take those jobs. they choose to take that job.
Nobody forces them to have not honed any skills to seek a better job. they chose to not build more for themselves.

They would be so blessed to have the opportunity for labor so THEY DONT STARVE.

pretending that someone is taking advantage of them because they have no better marketable skills than back breaking labor, is disingenous and completely devoid of logic and reason.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-06-10 14:57:51
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You would literally hand pick cotton just because it's a paycheck.

News flash, not all jobs created are jobs people should be doing. Amazon is literal slavery, yet millions line up to work there.

Preying on desperation, and you cheer them on. What a world.
So, an average of $250k/year jobs that she "saved" her constitutes from enjoying is considered slave wages to you?

Why am I not suprised?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-06-10 14:58:31
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
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Idiot Boy said: »
Prong said: »
That's scary as AOC is literally the one of the 3 most ignorant and flat out stupid people I've ever seen in a TV interview
You can disagree with the policy aims, but if you think she's an idiot you haven't ever watched her in a hearing. If you're going to be scared of her, be scared that she's competent and might actually accomplish some things.
I'm sorry, but anyone who claims to have an "economics degree" and celebrates destruction of free market society....
Are you saying that we actually have a free market economy in this country?

At my age I am selling off assets. I have a bridge I no longer utilize. We could discuss a price...
Spoken like a true hippie. You are the last person I would get economic advice from.
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By Prong 2020-06-10 15:24:44
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You would literally hand pick cotton just because it's a paycheck.

News flash, not all jobs created are jobs people should be doing. Amazon is literal slavery, yet millions line up to work there.

Preying on desperation, and you cheer them on. What a world.

So they should just remain unemployed? Can't all be CEOs. I don't get your argument on this topic, at all.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2020-06-10 15:25:50
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Prong said: »
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You would literally hand pick cotton just because it's a paycheck.

News flash, not all jobs created are jobs people should be doing. Amazon is literal slavery, yet millions line up to work there.

Preying on desperation, and you cheer them on. What a world.

So they should just remain unemployed? Can't all be CEOs. I don't get your argument on this topic, at all.
He is the closest thing to Antifa you will ever talk to.

And the only reason why he is talking to you is because he cannot punch you in the face or throw bricks at your house/car right now.
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By Prong 2020-06-10 15:33:03
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Prong said: »
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You would literally hand pick cotton just because it's a paycheck.

News flash, not all jobs created are jobs people should be doing. Amazon is literal slavery, yet millions line up to work there.

Preying on desperation, and you cheer them on. What a world.

So they should just remain unemployed? Can't all be CEOs. I don't get your argument on this topic, at all.
He is the closest thing to Antifa you will ever talk to.

And the only reason why he is talking to you is because he cannot punch you in the face or throw bricks at your house/car right now.

He'd be chucking those bricks at a 1991 Honda Accord that hasn't moved from where it is parked in about 7 months so, aim well, young Jedi.

I see him say the same trying-to-be-clever remarks all the time about people who work for a living, I just don't see him give his logical alternative.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-06-10 15:47:15
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Logical alternative being be smart enough to not willfully cheer on your oppressors.

I guess that's to forward thinking.

Amazon crushes all competition. In store and online and jobs that aren't even in the same market.
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By Prong 2020-06-10 15:53:08
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Logical alternative being be smart enough to not willfully cheer on your oppressors.

I guess that's to forward thinking.

Amazon crushes all competition. In store and online and jobs that aren't even in the same market.

Sorry but poor people can't afford to be so self-righteous in their choice of companies to accept a check from. You are basically suggesting they go homeless/starve to uphold some kind of "fight the power" ideology? Again, how do you suggest people pay their bills and survive without money? Please say learn to grow/hunt your own food and make your own clothes. Bronx Amish 4tw.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-06-10 15:57:24
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Just don't work for slave owners. Pretty simple concept. Have just the bare minimum self respect.
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if they worked for amazon, they could possibly be still employed ~ unlike a good chunk of america that worked for small business where they either got laid off, furloughed or have to pick up the pieces of their looted shop
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-06-10 16:00:06
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"Having a shitty job is better than no job."

Sums up everything that's wrong with the world at the most basic level.

And the fact that people are ok with making the argument is a failure as a species.
By volkom 2020-06-10 16:04:20
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"Having a shitty job is better than no job."

Sums up everything that's wrong with the world at the most basic level.

And the fact that people are ok with making the argument is a failure as a species.
i don't think anyone is okay with it. but sometimes you have to take what you can get. and if you aren't satisfied with your current situation, you need to find ways to improve it. sacrifices have to be made.

plan for the future
budget and save
seek education in a career path that you like/want to be in.
then do it.
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