Bottom line yes, the justice system/police unions DOES(DO) seem to protect police officers and that obviously needs severe change immediately.
The issue Draylo and others have though with how many are phrasing their comments is, we live in a society that will TEAR YOU APART on social media if you DARE to remotely stereotype an entire group due to the actions of the few, which is where my Muslim question came from that moron decided was bigotry to dare even ask.
So, it gets somewhat confusing when it does appear some are stereotyping all cops based on the actions of the few, when we are told to not do that with basically any other "group" of people.
If I have misrepresented your feelings Draylo feel free to interject.
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Asura.Ladyofhonor said: » Draylo said: » Idiot Boy said: » Draylo said: » So if we personally know a cop and have real world experience with good cops, our viewpoints don’t matter. You are thinking quite radically right now No, man. The point is that individual cops can be and often are totally fine; it's what they do as a group that has consequences. ***, I have good interactions with the cops all the time. I'm also lily white in a rich suburb. That anecdote doesn't undo everything I and others have said about the structural issues with police in this country. I am all for reform. But even with what you said, you acknowledge there is some good. The case for the Majority can be argued, but I can’t say they are all bad. The union is probably the biggest roadblock. I have been in one before and know they always stick together, reform would have to go through them to recognize these issues. The MN police union excused the murder that started this whole thing by calling Floyd a dangerous criminal and said they'd be defending the murderers to their full extent. That's who you're passively supporting with your arguments here, lol. Prong said: » Bottom line yes, the justice system/police unions DOES(DO) seem to protect police officers and that obviously needs severe change immediately. The issue Draylo and others have though with how many are phrasing their comments is, we live in a society that will TEAR YOU APART on social media if you DARE to remotely stereotype an entire group due to the actions of the few, which is where my Muslim question came from that moron decided was bigotry to dare even ask. So, it gets somewhat confusing when it does appear some are stereotyping all cops based on the actions of the few, when we are told to not do that with basically any other "group" of people. If I have misrepresented your feelings Draylo feel free to interject. Yes, I know good cops and it annoys me that people literally lump them in with murderers. It isn’t fair and completely invalidates the good they have done that I have personally seen. F for the paged meme Aeonova.
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Jetackuu said: » Asura.Ladyofhonor said: » Draylo said: » Idiot Boy said: » Draylo said: » So if we personally know a cop and have real world experience with good cops, our viewpoints don’t matter. You are thinking quite radically right now No, man. The point is that individual cops can be and often are totally fine; it's what they do as a group that has consequences. ***, I have good interactions with the cops all the time. I'm also lily white in a rich suburb. That anecdote doesn't undo everything I and others have said about the structural issues with police in this country. I am all for reform. But even with what you said, you acknowledge there is some good. The case for the Majority can be argued, but I can’t say they are all bad. The union is probably the biggest roadblock. I have been in one before and know they always stick together, reform would have to go through them to recognize these issues. The MN police union excused the murder that started this whole thing by calling Floyd a dangerous criminal and said they'd be defending the murderers to their full extent. That's who you're passively supporting with your arguments here, lol. The cop autopsy basically said he died without the cops having anything to do with it. The independent one it was entirely caused by police. Just goes to show how absolutely corrupt the police can be when this is an international story and they are lying out of their *** about it. Draylo said: » Prong said: » Bottom line yes, the justice system/police unions DOES(DO) seem to protect police officers and that obviously needs severe change immediately. The issue Draylo and others have though with how many are phrasing their comments is, we live in a society that will TEAR YOU APART on social media if you DARE to remotely stereotype an entire group due to the actions of the few, which is where my Muslim question came from that moron decided was bigotry to dare even ask. So, it gets somewhat confusing when it does appear some are stereotyping all cops based on the actions of the few, when we are told to not do that with basically any other "group" of people. If I have misrepresented your feelings Draylo feel free to interject. Yes, I know good cops and it annoys me that people literally lump them in with murderers. It isn’t fair and completely invalidates the good they have done that I have personally seen. Jetackuu should I disown my cousin??
Prong said: » Bottom line yes, the justice system/police unions DOES(DO) seem to protect police officers and that obviously needs severe change immediately. The issue Draylo and others have though with how many are phrasing their comments is, we live in a society that will TEAR YOU APART on social media if you DARE to remotely stereotype an entire group due to the actions of the few, which is where my Muslim question came from that moron decided was bigotry to dare even ask. So, it gets somewhat confusing when it does appear some are stereotyping all cops based on the actions of the few, when we are told to not do that with basically any other "group" of people. If I have misrepresented your feelings Draylo feel free to interject. That's because in the case of Muslims, it's less than 1% that are terrorists. In the case of black people, it's because we shoved them into ghettos and denied them proper education after considering them subhuman for centuries. In the case of cops, they're considered heroes, but you're here trying to argue they should also be free of the same judgement they dish out to others. Heroes get held to a higher standard, and you guys are here arguing they should be held to the same standard as...discriminated minorities...? Asura.Ladyofhonor said: » Jetackuu said: » Asura.Ladyofhonor said: » Draylo said: » Idiot Boy said: » Draylo said: » So if we personally know a cop and have real world experience with good cops, our viewpoints don’t matter. You are thinking quite radically right now No, man. The point is that individual cops can be and often are totally fine; it's what they do as a group that has consequences. ***, I have good interactions with the cops all the time. I'm also lily white in a rich suburb. That anecdote doesn't undo everything I and others have said about the structural issues with police in this country. I am all for reform. But even with what you said, you acknowledge there is some good. The case for the Majority can be argued, but I can’t say they are all bad. The union is probably the biggest roadblock. I have been in one before and know they always stick together, reform would have to go through them to recognize these issues. The MN police union excused the murder that started this whole thing by calling Floyd a dangerous criminal and said they'd be defending the murderers to their full extent. That's who you're passively supporting with your arguments here, lol. The cop autopsy basically said he died without the cops having anything to do with it. The independent one it was entirely caused by police. Just goes to show how absolutely corrupt the police can be when this is an international story and they are lying out of their *** about it. The City ME, not "cop autopsy." And again: paid vy the family isn't independent. The courts will sort this out, with hopefully just the facts and not bow to the court of public opinion, regardless of which way it turns out. You have no unbiased source to back up that claim, but yeah, I can see how one can draw that conclusion. Draylo said: » Prong said: » Bottom line yes, the justice system/police unions DOES(DO) seem to protect police officers and that obviously needs severe change immediately. The issue Draylo and others have though with how many are phrasing their comments is, we live in a society that will TEAR YOU APART on social media if you DARE to remotely stereotype an entire group due to the actions of the few, which is where my Muslim question came from that moron decided was bigotry to dare even ask. So, it gets somewhat confusing when it does appear some are stereotyping all cops based on the actions of the few, when we are told to not do that with basically any other "group" of people. If I have misrepresented your feelings Draylo feel free to interject. Yes, I know good cops and it annoys me that people literally lump them in with murderers. It isn’t fair and completely invalidates the good they have done that I have personally seen. You know what the cops who act and think the same as this are doing? Joining the marches. Kneeling in front of protestors. Talking to their communities. THOSE officers know that it takes action and commitment to show the world that the onus is on THEM to fix this. Its not on us. Asura.Gnawclaw said: » Where were you about 4 hours ago when they summoned literal hell spawn demons with this thread Oh, you guys already have been-there-done-that. Mah bad. Asura.Ladyofhonor said: » Prong said: » Bottom line yes, the justice system/police unions DOES(DO) seem to protect police officers and that obviously needs severe change immediately. The issue Draylo and others have though with how many are phrasing their comments is, we live in a society that will TEAR YOU APART on social media if you DARE to remotely stereotype an entire group due to the actions of the few, which is where my Muslim question came from that moron decided was bigotry to dare even ask. So, it gets somewhat confusing when it does appear some are stereotyping all cops based on the actions of the few, when we are told to not do that with basically any other "group" of people. If I have misrepresented your feelings Draylo feel free to interject. That's because in the case of Muslims, it's less than 1% that are terrorists. In the case of black people, it's because we shoved them into ghettos and denied them proper education after considering them subhuman for centuries. In the case of cops, they're considered heroes, but you're here trying to argue they should also be free of the same judgement they dish out to others. Heroes get held to a higher standard, and you guys are here arguing they should be held to the same standard as...discriminated minorities...? NO. I am simply saying it's getting very, very hard to communicate with people, especially on social media or forums, when they apply their own personal rules to what groups you can or cannot stereotype.
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Bahamut.Celebrindal said: » Draylo said: » Prong said: » Bottom line yes, the justice system/police unions DOES(DO) seem to protect police officers and that obviously needs severe change immediately. The issue Draylo and others have though with how many are phrasing their comments is, we live in a society that will TEAR YOU APART on social media if you DARE to remotely stereotype an entire group due to the actions of the few, which is where my Muslim question came from that moron decided was bigotry to dare even ask. So, it gets somewhat confusing when it does appear some are stereotyping all cops based on the actions of the few, when we are told to not do that with basically any other "group" of people. If I have misrepresented your feelings Draylo feel free to interject. Yes, I know good cops and it annoys me that people literally lump them in with murderers. It isn’t fair and completely invalidates the good they have done that I have personally seen. You know what the cops who act and think the same as this are doing? Joining the marches. Kneeling in front of protestors. Talking to their communities. THOSE officers know that it takes action and commitment to show the world that the onus is on THEM to fix this. Its not on us. Of course and what you described are good cops.
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Draylo said: » Of course and what you described are good cops. No, those are cops caught on camera for a photo op. The next day they're macing you again. Prong said: » Asura.Ladyofhonor said: » Prong said: » Bottom line yes, the justice system/police unions DOES(DO) seem to protect police officers and that obviously needs severe change immediately. The issue Draylo and others have though with how many are phrasing their comments is, we live in a society that will TEAR YOU APART on social media if you DARE to remotely stereotype an entire group due to the actions of the few, which is where my Muslim question came from that moron decided was bigotry to dare even ask. So, it gets somewhat confusing when it does appear some are stereotyping all cops based on the actions of the few, when we are told to not do that with basically any other "group" of people. If I have misrepresented your feelings Draylo feel free to interject. That's because in the case of Muslims, it's less than 1% that are terrorists. In the case of black people, it's because we shoved them into ghettos and denied them proper education after considering them subhuman for centuries. In the case of cops, they're considered heroes, but you're here trying to argue they should also be free of the same judgement they dish out to others. Heroes get held to a higher standard, and you guys are here arguing they should be held to the same standard as...discriminated minorities...? NO. I am simply saying it's getting very, very hard to communicate with people, especially on social media or forums, when they apply their own personal rules to what groups you can or cannot stereotype. Another good quantifier for if you can or cannot stereotype a group: Is the group based on a racial, ethnic or religious aspect? No. Is the group based on a profession, or blonde hair? Yes. Asura.Eiryl said: » Draylo said: » Of course and what you described are good cops. No, those are cops caught on camera for a photo op. The next day they're macing you again. Not even next day, there are reports in at least 3 major cities they were macing people just an hour after those photo ops, so lol. Asura.Gnawclaw said: » Gnawclaw the Traveler. He will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the rectification of the Vuldrini, the traveler came as a large and moving Torg! Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants, they chose a new form for him: that of a giant Slor! Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!
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Asura.Ladyofhonor said: » Prong said: » Asura.Ladyofhonor said: » Prong said: » Bottom line yes, the justice system/police unions DOES(DO) seem to protect police officers and that obviously needs severe change immediately. The issue Draylo and others have though with how many are phrasing their comments is, we live in a society that will TEAR YOU APART on social media if you DARE to remotely stereotype an entire group due to the actions of the few, which is where my Muslim question came from that moron decided was bigotry to dare even ask. So, it gets somewhat confusing when it does appear some are stereotyping all cops based on the actions of the few, when we are told to not do that with basically any other "group" of people. If I have misrepresented your feelings Draylo feel free to interject. That's because in the case of Muslims, it's less than 1% that are terrorists. In the case of black people, it's because we shoved them into ghettos and denied them proper education after considering them subhuman for centuries. In the case of cops, they're considered heroes, but you're here trying to argue they should also be free of the same judgement they dish out to others. Heroes get held to a higher standard, and you guys are here arguing they should be held to the same standard as...discriminated minorities...? NO. I am simply saying it's getting very, very hard to communicate with people, especially on social media or forums, when they apply their own personal rules to what groups you can or cannot stereotype. Another good quantifier for if you can or cannot stereotype a group: Is the group based on a racial, ethnic or religious aspect? No. Is the group based on a profession, or blonde hair? Yes. You just made my point so thanks. Those are qualifiers YOU have decided are qualifiers. Not everyone agrees with that and it doesn't make them right and you wrong, or vice versa. People can't read minds, especially if they don't know you.
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Prong said: » Asura.Ladyofhonor said: » Prong said: » Asura.Ladyofhonor said: » Prong said: » Bottom line yes, the justice system/police unions DOES(DO) seem to protect police officers and that obviously needs severe change immediately. The issue Draylo and others have though with how many are phrasing their comments is, we live in a society that will TEAR YOU APART on social media if you DARE to remotely stereotype an entire group due to the actions of the few, which is where my Muslim question came from that moron decided was bigotry to dare even ask. So, it gets somewhat confusing when it does appear some are stereotyping all cops based on the actions of the few, when we are told to not do that with basically any other "group" of people. If I have misrepresented your feelings Draylo feel free to interject. That's because in the case of Muslims, it's less than 1% that are terrorists. In the case of black people, it's because we shoved them into ghettos and denied them proper education after considering them subhuman for centuries. In the case of cops, they're considered heroes, but you're here trying to argue they should also be free of the same judgement they dish out to others. Heroes get held to a higher standard, and you guys are here arguing they should be held to the same standard as...discriminated minorities...? NO. I am simply saying it's getting very, very hard to communicate with people, especially on social media or forums, when they apply their own personal rules to what groups you can or cannot stereotype. Another good quantifier for if you can or cannot stereotype a group: Is the group based on a racial, ethnic or religious aspect? No. Is the group based on a profession, or blonde hair? Yes. You just made my point so thanks. Those are qualifiers YOU have decided are qualifiers. Not everyone agrees with that and it doesn't make them right and you wrong, or vice versa. People can't read minds, especially if they don't know you. Actually those are the quantifiers we have codified into law...except the blonde hair bit. |
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