ALL TRUMP!!! ALL THE TIME!!!

Told you this would happen.

Sigh, you embarrass yourself further with every post. Here are more of the facts you're not able to read. Why are Blacks Democrats? African Americans are Democrats. Since 1968 no Republican presidential candidate has received more than 13% of the African American vote and surveys of African Americans regularly show that upwards of 80% of African Americans self-identify as Democrats.

Wow, are you guys up to 50% mortality rate yet? I imagine you'll be living in a ghost town soon, where only people who wore the masks survived and had to bury all of the filthy mask-deniers.

Thanks for posting a link that says not all blacks are Democrats. Also to reemphasize, not all black people vote, so trying to claim all the rioters were Democrats because they were black was pretty damn stupid. If only every single demographic had 100% turnout. Even without that, thanks again for posting a link that says not all blacks are Democrats.

And you mock a disease that's scything through the population and cratering the economy, so spare me the "I'm thinking of the people" horseshit.


Is Draylo people?

Also:

It was mostly disbelief that he was scared of the looting and rioting - which he is statistically unlikely to be affected by, even living in NYC - and flippant towards a pandemic that he IS likely to be affected by, even if it's just from the continued economic devastation. I never said "don't panic about the unrest". But "hey maybe don't dismiss this other, wider ranging problem", which he and you and a number of others have been keen to do.


On this, there is consensus.


Which, if you've read any of the posts around it, I dismiss as pie in the sky nonsense. The answer is the removal of QI, extra/real training, and maybe stop giving them grenade launchers. The studies that get talked about around defunding cops take place on smaller scales; there's nothing even resembling what a major American city would look like without one. And, as I've also talked about, in a country where even average citizens might have a whooole lot of weaponry, you can't really disarm/disband the cops. There's gotta be a line somewhere.

I'm a time traveler from the future, here to warn you of what's to come this December. Trump will win re-election in a landslide. dems will cry that "the Trump administration" didn't do enough to protect voters from covid, causing "mostly poor black and brown people" who would have voted democrat to "not be able to safely go to the polls." They'll use this as the primary excuse for why they lost (again). They'll demand years of investigations into why "the GOP deliberately didn't safeguard poor black people so they could vote." covid is racist and orange man colluded with the covid to steal the election. Four more years of latenight.tvman making the same two jokes about orange man being racist and orange man's plan to exterminate the gays and trans through unknown means, blah blah, "the details aren't important, he just wants to, believe us." Four more years of the same few people on this forum frothing at the mouth about:

orange man bad
cocaine mitch bad
GOP bad
NRA bad
cops bad
whites bad
believeallwamyn
notmypresidentV2.0
diversity is our strength (except whites, cops, and orange man)
russiancollusion
comeywasframed
muellerfailedus
wallsareclosingin

Also the DOW will tank to sub-7,500 in 2021. You're welcome.

Quote me where I ever said that "all blacks are democrats." Doesn't exist. Another vic lie.

Quote me where I said "all the rioters were Democrats because they were black." Doesn't exist. Another vic lie.

Childish lie after childish lie. I didn't get scolded for likening you to a child, so I have to stick with that one.

Lol, I'm not going back to quote your false claims that all the rioters were Democrats, I'm content to just know for a fact you were claiming it, and you were wrong. Kinda like how you just posted a bunch of irrelevant links that didn't do anything for your claims. Notice how no one has to actually fulfill any of your "requests" and it means nothing when they choose not to?

You actually don't have a lot of people on your forum advocating for the defunding of police. Maybe 1, Eiryl. And that would be the entire list. Kinda like how there actually are not a lot of Democrats out there pushing it. Of course, Fox News would try to unsuccessfully tell us differently, but its not actually going anywhere on a national scale.

Everyone should be for defunding. aka demilitarizing.

Defund =/= abolish. To make that clear. (for those that don't care to understand the difference)

Unfortunately the alt right has already weaponized the movement so it's impossible to advocate for demilitarization without being lumped into the abolish the cops movement (that doesn't actually exist). You have to actually specify what you want to do.

I don't give a ***about most other people and never claimed to. covid didn't directly affect the economy. It had an indirect effect due to the overblown political reaction to it. By now it's very obvious, to the non-indoctrinated, that covid is not a major threat to almost the entire general population. CDC estimates that it has between a 0.2% and 0.26% mortality rate. Almost that entire population is the very elderly, with preexisting conditions. The reaction absolutely was overblown. "Scything through the population" is a gross mischaracterization and defies the actual data.


Sane people are scared of violence when they see it with their own eyes. Yes, Draylo is a person (I think).



"be affected by" is not the same as "be murdered by" or "have your property burned down by." Everyone in the world will be exposed to covid, if they haven't already. Again, 0.2%-0.26% mortality rate, almost all of whom are very old and already very sick.


I don't disagree with you on this, but I do believe a number of cities will try to disband their police this decade. I wonder if eiryl would volunteer to live in a city without cops.

I genuinely wonder how old you are at this point. "nuh uh I don't have to you can't make me I just know it."

Thats nice.

Then don't say defunding, say demilitarizing.

And believe me, every cop would like to see fewer mental ill in the criminal justice system.

Majority of his posts come across like that. I asked him once why he types like that and he said I was back seat modding or something. Poor guy


Oh cmon now... It was literally all over that people were chanting "abolish the police." They even have it going thru in some cities that are actively looking to do that. I remember it being all over BG as well, when this whole thing started that was the consensus "abolish police." Maybe it was said out of outrage from what happened but you can't just deny it and write it off.

Also DEFUNDING, can have quite a few meanings to it. In my mind that means less cops everywhere, less assistance via 911 calls, less involvement all around. Less training, which is most direly needed right now to stop this stuff.

I just don't see how that is beneficial when crimes will go up as a result of said defunding. I honestly wasn't aware cops had tanks that they roll out on the streets with and grenade launchers... I mean, I must have missed that in the news every day.

We "defund" education and music and the arts, no one goes "hurrhurr no more music evar!"

Pretty simple.

Yeah it's a suboptimal "term", blame the uneducated who've been to constantly "defunded" public schools.

So, our stable genius president took a one day story, the -14% poll, and made it last a week.

Now his lawyer is going to make it the story that wouldn't die.

Trumpland Superlawyer Jenna Ellis Gonna Sue CNN For Mean Polling, You Bet!

This is one of the times I would rather post from Wonkette's source but that source is a CNN transcript....

Best quote:

It's pretty much too late, I mean look at Draylo, who seems to get all his news from YouTube, they fully believe that the Dems want to abolish the police. There aren't any posters here that advocate that but we are being accused of wanting it. There aren't any cities looking to abolish their police force (not even Minneapolis) but they are being accused of it.

It's just stupid honestly, something that people came up with to retaliate for whats happening. You reduce funding and you increase crime rates, you increase death rates and suffering due to said crimes. There is a reason they are so well funded, there is a lot of crime in our country. That's one of the mistakes people make when they constantly compare us and our police to other countries.

Joe Biden himself has said hes against defunding police. If the leader of the left is against it, just imagine how far left it makes people seem to promote something like that.

Really, you think taking away things like tanks, heavy weaponry, so many different forms of immunity from prosecution is gonna increase the crime rate? Got any actual evidence to support that? How often have you seen the police rolling their APCs down your street?

To be fair, I have in fact seen several videos of Ilham Omar (she's a congresswoman, it counts) campaigning to completely abolish the police in Minnesota and at least one city council member in Minneapolis calling for the same thing during a BLM rally.

Yes, the majority are not calling for that but some of those who are happen to be in very influential positions.

What are you talking about with these tanks and grenade launchers? You act like cops go around like its GTA and blow people up with their tanks and ***. Makes no sense lol. I do recall situations with mass shootings where they need to bring in equipment like that, do you think a social worker could go in and talk the shooter out of his evil deeds?

I see, so you have no idea what actual tools your police department has to use against you.

She is way out there, and being a freshman Rep, doesn't have near the influence over legislation, or anything else really, that you would think. Im not saying freshman Reps can't be very successful, obviously AOC has done very well for herself and her platform. But using a Squad member as an example when she is the only one isn't really gonna work.

The Police do receive quiet a bit of equipment from the US Military It's treated as military surplus and it tends to be older stuff but it still counts. Ultimately it's a cultural problem, the Police have a very toxic culture that creates the conditions for very interactions with the citizens enemy combatants. It all started with the "War on Drugs". That transformed peace police from keepers of the peace to a poorly trained paramilitary force. Their enemy was the drug cartels, little Johnny buying a joint and everyone in between. When your potential enemies are that vast, it turns every interaction into a warzone.

I think there was one police department in the country about ten years back that had funding they needed to either spend or lose (another great govt policy) by the end of the year, so they purchased an APC for their SWAT team. The same simpletons who don’t know the difference between fully and semi-automatic, who claim that active shooters should just be “shot in the leg,” etc, etc, will claim, ad nauseum, that cops “have tanks, grenade launchers, bazookas, etc.”

it’s mind-numbingly stupid, like listening to joe biden tell factory workers he doesn’t want to take away their guns because “he owns a shotgun, he just wants to take away your ‘AR-14s’.” Lol, sadly only like 4 people in this thread will even know what’s wrong with that biden comment.

Incredibly effective equipment against civilians. Obviously Commodus and Draylo don't even know about it so they resort to making stuff up and name calling, which is just easily ignored.

I think it's called the 1030 program, maybe the 1033. Its been around for decades.