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Random Politics & Religion #38: The 38th One
Valefor.Endoq
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By Valefor.Endoq 2019-09-26 14:03:23
Pumpkin Spice: Everything.
Bacon is overrated.
Pineapple belongs on pizza.
Democrats eat babies.
The cake is a lie.
Socks with sandals.
Fite me irl.
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Valefor.Endoq
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By Valefor.Endoq 2019-09-26 14:08:00
PAGED!!!!
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2019-09-26 14:08:48
while the USA are actually spending billions to (in theory anyway, publicly) deter global conflicts for all Except they create them to begin with. "Exporting democracy" is and has always been a bs excuse, as well as fighting the bad guys. In a fair world the US would be the country with the most sanctions, but they're too big and powerful for anyone to do anything about it. American exceptionalism.
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Garuda.Chanti
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-09-26 14:09:19
The latest defection from the Trump orbit is the Washington Examiner.
Opinion
A quid and a quo, and Trump should go
by Quin Hillyer
| September 25, 2019 05:07 PM
Quote: Judging by the evidence we have before us, the House of Representatives should impeach President Trump, and the Senate should remove him from office.
The newly released transcript of Trump’s call with incoming Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky shows Trump abusing his office in multiple ways. This is especially evident when considering the context of other actions already acknowledged by either Trump or his private attorney, Rudy Giuliani....
Garuda.Chanti
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-09-26 14:15:35
I am afraid you guys didn't get the official talking points unlike some house democrats.
So here they are: https://t.co/twcYGkcO7h
By Viciouss 2019-09-26 14:22:27
The damage control strategy for the WH has been fairly terrible to downright non-existent. You can tell they were both blindsided by Pelosi walking out there and announcing the inquiry and delusional about a transcript that clearly shows Trump doing something unethical and possibly illegal would somehow make the Ukraine story go away. It's a full blown scandal, it's not going anywhere, and it's certainly not going to blow back on the Dems. Just maintain the line of Trump's actions were unethical, he admitted to it, we are gonna find out if they were illegal. And enjoy the alt right spin machine.
Garuda.Chanti
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-09-26 14:32:06
Garuda.Chanti
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-09-26 14:33:31
Hey look at that ANOTHER facts I don't like scam. Wait...
Slate says the pee tape is false, you are saying its REAL??!!??
Prove it.
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Valefor.Endoq
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By Valefor.Endoq 2019-09-26 14:34:00
Everyone is talking about this impeachment thing and I’m over here just wondering what in the actual f*** is going on completely unnoticed/unreported, because that is exactly what goes down every time there is a scandal uproar. Trust me, some seriously bad ***is going down right under our noses as this distraction takes place.
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2019-09-26 14:35:58
The damage control strategy for the WH has been fairly terrible to downright non-existent. You can tell they were both blindsided by Pelosi walking out there and announcing the inquiry and delusional about a transcript that clearly shows Trump doing something unethical and possibly illegal would somehow make the Ukraine story go away. It's a full blown scandal, it's not going anywhere, and it's certainly not going to blow back on the Dems. Just maintain the line of Trump's actions were unethical, he admitted to it, we are gonna find out if they were illegal. And enjoy the alt right spin machine. The problem is also that Trump tried to cover it up(and there might be other similar cases)by moving stuff to a private server(familiar much? lol)
And just a little while ago he threatened the whistleblower...
By Nausi 2019-09-26 14:46:46
The whistleblower is a partisan deep state agent of Brennan who Brennan (obviously) sent to spy on the administration.
We will learn he has been paid by a leftist organization in the near future.
By Nausi 2019-09-26 14:53:42
Hey look at that ANOTHER facts I don't like scam. Wait...
Slate says the pee tape is false, you are saying its REAL??!!??
Prove it. How much money do you want to wager that slate initially backed the authenticity of the pee tape?
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By Nausi 2019-09-26 14:54:41
The damage control strategy for the WH has been fairly terrible to downright non-existent. You can tell they were both blindsided by Pelosi walking out there and announcing the inquiry and delusional about a transcript that clearly shows Trump doing something unethical and possibly illegal would somehow make the Ukraine story go away. It's a full blown scandal, it's not going anywhere, and it's certainly not going to blow back on the Dems. Just maintain the line of Trump's actions were unethical, he admitted to it, we are gonna find out if they were illegal. And enjoy the alt right spin machine. The problem is also that Trump tried to cover it up(and there might be other similar cases)by moving stuff to a private server(familiar much? lol)
And just a little while ago he threatened the whistleblower... >covered it up
>released the transcript and report
Pick one.
Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-09-26 15:07:07
The high and mighty who are going nuts over this would consider this a minor slip-up at most if it were a Democrat, and that's in a worst-case scenario. The only reason impeachment is even being discussed is because the Democrats put the wheels in motion during the failed Russia investigation and are looking for any excuse they can get to regain momentum.
Mark my words, impeachment followed by removal for something as mundane as this would be disastrous for the country, but the Democrats just don't freaking care. I'm under the impression that, for the bulk of them, this is just a 2020 campaign stunt on steroids, but if I'm wrong then we're in for some serious problems.
If Trump is so bad, just win the election. Problem solved. There's no need to risk instigating riots and stock market disasters with 2020 so close, because that is exactly what could happen.
By Nausi 2019-09-26 15:10:28
This isnt even a bad case of judgement. Joe Biden is on tape bragging about his own corruption. It is in the country’s best interest to have this entire thing blown wide open.
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By fonewear 2019-09-26 15:24:19
The main problem is this thread is *** stupid.
And with the 3 people that post over and over again.
There is no signs of it getting better.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2019-09-26 15:24:51
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By fonewear 2019-09-26 15:26:31
What type of whistle are we talking about here so I have a frame of reference ?
By fonewear 2019-09-26 15:29:19
Pumpkin Spice: Everything.
Bacon is overrated.
Pineapple belongs on pizza.
Democrats eat babies.
The cake is a lie.
Socks with sandals.
Fite me irl.
Are we human or are we dance ?
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By fonewear 2019-09-26 15:29:34
My bad
Are we human or are we dancer ?
By fonewear 2019-09-26 15:45:24
Look just because you don't like Trump doesn't make you a Constitutional Law expert.
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By Viciouss 2019-09-26 16:19:22
The whistleblower is a partisan deep state agent of Brennan who Brennan (obviously) sent to spy on the administration.
We will learn he has been paid by a leftist organization in the near future.
This was hilarious lol.
By Viciouss 2019-09-26 16:26:39
The damage control strategy for the WH has been fairly terrible to downright non-existent. You can tell they were both blindsided by Pelosi walking out there and announcing the inquiry and delusional about a transcript that clearly shows Trump doing something unethical and possibly illegal would somehow make the Ukraine story go away. It's a full blown scandal, it's not going anywhere, and it's certainly not going to blow back on the Dems. Just maintain the line of Trump's actions were unethical, he admitted to it, we are gonna find out if they were illegal. And enjoy the alt right spin machine. The problem is also that Trump tried to cover it up(and there might be other similar cases)by moving stuff to a private server(familiar much? lol)
And just a little while ago he threatened the whistleblower...
Yea and they got caught by the whistleblower, otherwise they would still be covering it up.
Garuda.Chanti
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-09-26 16:27:51
What type of whistle are we talking about here so I have a frame of reference ?
Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-09-26 16:41:32
Yea and they got caught by the whistleblower, otherwise they would still be covering it up.
Technically the whistleblower didn't do much of anything. He didn't hear the call, he wrote the complaint with a bunch of help, and he had no business getting the info in the first place. The whole thing was a set up.
Valefor.Sehachan
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2019-09-26 16:45:00
he had no business getting the info in the first place Idk, it says repeatedly that this is customary to exchange this kind of intel. It cites some articles that I have no intention of verifying cause law bores me to death.
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-09-26 16:49:23
The high and mighty who are going nuts over this would consider this a minor slip-up at most if it were a Democrat, and that's in a worst-case scenario. The only reason impeachment is even being discussed is because the Democrats put the wheels in motion during the failed Russia investigation and are looking for any excuse they can get to regain momentum.
Mark my words, impeachment followed by removal for something as mundane as this would be disastrous for the country, but the Democrats just don't freaking care. I'm under the impression that, for the bulk of them, this is just a 2020 campaign stunt on steroids, but if I'm wrong then we're in for some serious problems.
If Trump is so bad, just win the election. Problem solved. There's no need to risk instigating riots and stock market disasters with 2020 so close, because that is exactly what could happen.
Its just them trying to generate news during 2020. I mean look at Sech for an example of how ignorant the left is. CNN and AOC could report that Trump killed babies and the faithful would just believe it as truth. Facts come out that he didn't kill babies and they would call it a cover up.
Basically the entire left is Alex Jones.
Bahamut.Ravael
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2019-09-26 16:51:11
he had no business getting the info in the first place Idk, it says repeatedly that this is customary to exchange this kind of intel. It cites some articles that I have no intention of verifying cause law bores me to death.
This wasn't a discussion to exchange intelligence. The call was outside of the CIA's purview.
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Asura.Saevel
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-09-26 17:01:58
he had no business getting the info in the first place Idk, it says repeatedly that this is customary to exchange this kind of intel. It cites some articles that I have no intention of verifying cause law bores me to death.
Facts bore you, heightened drama is more entertaining.
The useful idiot having heard about the conversation isn't surprising. You leftists immediately believing CNN and WAPO was the funny part.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2019-09-26 17:15:41
Insults and slanders for pages on end. No civility from any side, no desire for intellectual discourse, all the while everyone masturbates about being so fair and honest. This place is disgusting and you should all be ashamed of yourselves. This isn't the way to have discussions.
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