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By fonewear 2019-02-27 14:17:53
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
I read about the testomony up to the break.

I actually saw two new things. New to me at least.

And while we are busy watching the Choen show hearing, what has our deal maker persident given away in Hanoi?

All the rice in China.
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By fonewear 2019-02-27 14:25:11
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By Viciouss 2019-02-27 14:27:37
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Somebody lied to you fone, your YT still don't work.
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-02-27 14:27:55
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Viciouss said: »
Carbuncle.Skulloneix said: »
fonewear said: »
I didn't read it either I just assumed it backed up my point.
Yah I wouldn't bother trying to lead that horse to water. Then complains Nausi won't drink water he was lead to by him either.

I know, it sounds crazy.

Fone, how bout we get piss drunk one night and go to Chicago and drape MAGA flags all over it? Make it REALLY MAGA Country! =D

That was amusing. Try not to get shot.
But Chicago has HUGE MASSIVE GUN LAWS! THey don't allow Guns there! Its your Utopia!!!!



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Its going to be the same as last time, NK will pocket the concessions and continue its nuclear program while being legitimized by the US. Its amazing how simply not testing missiles has stroked Trump's ego so much to the point that he really believes he has prevented a shooting war, something that has never been close to happening.
Our allies get missile tests over their territory. Missiles keep growing in range to potentially hit our territorial waters, but that's no big deal, right? *** it, let them nuke us and our allies, JUST AS LONG AS TRUMP IS WRONG!!! REEEE
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-02-27 14:28:44
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Viciouss said: »
Somebody lied to you fone, your YT still don't work.
I will back this statement. It is correct.
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By Viciouss 2019-02-27 14:30:20
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You know I don't live in Chicago anymore right? I guess you weren't here, but I moved last summer.

Also, those failed missile tests proved to be excellent at crashing into the ocean. They struck fear into every fish unfortunate enough to get him by them.
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By Viciouss 2019-02-27 14:33:59
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Its not like NK has stopped working on their missile technology, whatever capability they had when they were testing them has only improved. Literally nothing has changed over there.
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By Viciouss 2019-02-27 14:36:09
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Unsurprisingly, the political campaign operative that cheated in North Carolina just got indicted, prison awaits.
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-02-27 14:37:32
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Viciouss said: »
You know I don't live in Chicago anymore right? I guess you weren't here, but I moved last summer.
I am glad for you sir (going to assume you are a sir, but really being earnestly polite), since getting away from it, is probably safer, unless you head to Baltimore. Which btw, stay out of Baltimore if you like having same amount of holes in ya.

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Also, those failed missile tests proved to be excellent at crashing into the ocean. They struck fear into every fish unfortunate enough to get him by them.
Yep, but could be a matter of time before they ACTUALLY make them work as intended. Sometimes that starvation and communism works in getting weapons made. '_' The Soviets did it...

least does NOT call them the, what was it, the JV Team?
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By Nausi 2019-02-27 14:39:41
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If only Obama had a fraction of Trump’s genius, maybe he would have realized all the Norks needed was a little sales pitch.

Oh well, no bother they’ll just continue their magaphobic rage.
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-02-27 14:42:53
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Its not like NK has stopped working on their missile technology, whatever capability they had when they were testing them has only improved. Literally nothing has changed over there.
Yes but have they been provoking and sticking it the eye of their neighbors to the South and East of them? Launching more missiles would just jeopardize the concessions the US would give up. Its a smart move of them to cooperate.
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-02-27 14:44:00
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-02-27 14:44:45
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Nausi said: »
Viciouss said: »
The Republicans were handed the statements last night at the same time as everyone else, short of the 24 hours, but still provided. No impact whatsoever.
This is outright false.
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House Freedom Caucus chair Rep. Mark Meadows attempted to postpone the hearing saying it was an "intentional effort" by Michael Cohen to "show his disdain" for the congressional body by not providing his testimony more than 24 hours in advance.
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By Viciouss 2019-02-27 14:45:19
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Yep, but could be a matter of time before they ACTUALLY make them work as intended. Sometimes that starvation and communism works in getting weapons made. '_' The Soviets did it...

least does NOT call them the, what was it, the JV Team?

Little Rocket Man sound better? I have no doubt they will eventually be able to successfully fire a conventional (non-nuclear) missile and hit intended target, its not like Trump is stopping them. That said, they would *never* get by the missile defense shields of either the US or Japan.
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By Viciouss 2019-02-27 14:48:04
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Viciouss said: »
Its not like NK has stopped working on their missile technology, whatever capability they had when they were testing them has only improved. Literally nothing has changed over there.
Yes but have they been provoking and sticking it the eye of their neighbors to the South and East of them? Launching more missiles would just jeopardize the concessions the US would give up. Its a smart move of them to cooperate.

Yeah, that's the whole point. Of course they are cooperating, Trump is handing them things in exchange for nothing. Just meeting with them handed North Korea the largest victory of their entire existence. They will say anything to get what they want then continue their nuclear program.
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By Nausi 2019-02-27 14:48:38
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Nausi said: »
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The Republicans were handed the statements last night at the same time as everyone else, short of the 24 hours, but still provided. No impact whatsoever.
This is outright false.
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House Freedom Caucus chair Rep. Mark Meadows attempted to postpone the hearing saying it was an "intentional effort" by Michael Cohen to "show his disdain" for the congressional body by not providing his testimony more than 24 hours in advance.
This is not evidence that he got the opening statement with proper notice.
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-02-27 14:48:45
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Viciouss said: »
Carbuncle.Skulloneix said: »
Yep, but could be a matter of time before they ACTUALLY make them work as intended. Sometimes that starvation and communism works in getting weapons made. '_' The Soviets did it...

least does NOT call them the, what was it, the JV Team?

Little Rocket Man sound better? I have no doubt they will eventually be able to successfully fire a conventional (non-nuclear) missile and hit intended target, its not like Trump is stopping them. That said, they would *never* get by the missile defense shields of either the US or Japan.
Let's hope not sir. Let's hope not.

Defense systems aren't absolute. Even our Naval Fleet's with the best defense systems could be vulnerable to regular missile attacks. Sadly. =/

PS: So glad Spell Check, I keep misspelling Missile.
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-02-27 14:50:49
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Viciouss said: »
Little Rocket Man sound better?
Also, it does! Least he's meeting him. Last time the false messiah met with JV team? XD

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Yeah, that's the whole point. Of course they are cooperating, Trump is handing them things in exchange for nothing. Just meeting with them handed North Korea the largest victory of their entire existence. They will say anything to get what they want then continue their nuclear program.
I AGREE!!! Still better than previous administration. That is what I don't think many Trump critics don't want to admit.
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By Nausi 2019-02-27 14:51:17
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Lol. Libs are living in the success of Trump’s taunting language and they’re so butthurt they were wrong that they’re just making up a new *** “social construct” for them to live in where it didnt happen
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By Viciouss 2019-02-27 14:52:03
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Nausi said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Nausi said: »
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The Republicans were handed the statements last night at the same time as everyone else, short of the 24 hours, but still provided. No impact whatsoever.
This is outright false.
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House Freedom Caucus chair Rep. Mark Meadows attempted to postpone the hearing saying it was an "intentional effort" by Michael Cohen to "show his disdain" for the congressional body by not providing his testimony more than 24 hours in advance.
This is not evidence that he got the opening statement with proper notice.

Still waiting on you to source any evidence that the Dems were handed the statements last night and the GOP members did not receive them. Actually, waiting on you to source that allegation, because it didn't come from Meadows.
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-02-27 14:52:14
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Viciouss said: »
Its not like NK has stopped working on their missile technology, whatever capability they had when they were testing them has only improved. Literally nothing has changed over there.
Yes but have they been provoking and sticking it the eye of their neighbors to the South and East of them? Launching more missiles would just jeopardize the concessions the US would give up. Its a smart move of them to cooperate.

There has been a huge fundamental shift in the relations between North and South Korea, they doing stuff now that hasn't ever been done before.
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By Viciouss 2019-02-27 14:55:32
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Carbuncle.Skulloneix said: »
Viciouss said: »
Little Rocket Man sound better?
Also, it does! Least he's meeting him. Last time the false messiah met with JV team? XD

Viciouss said: »
Yeah, that's the whole point. Of course they are cooperating, Trump is handing them things in exchange for nothing. Just meeting with them handed North Korea the largest victory of their entire existence. They will say anything to get what they want then continue their nuclear program.
I AGREE!!! Still better than previous administration. That is what I don't think many Trump critics don't want to admit.

How is it better to hand a victory to a despot without receiving anything in return? Every US President has refused to meet with the NK leader because he has murdered his own people on a regular basis, we didn't want to legitimize him. Now, Trump has endorsed that behavior not once but twice, and NK is still executing its own citizens while continuing its nuclear program.
Ignore nausi's idiocy, what has the US gotten out of NK? They haven't changed their behavior in any way, Dan Coats testified to that last month and it spun Trump into a frenzy because it shatters his narrative that he is accomplishing things.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-02-27 14:55:49
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Nausi said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Nausi said: »
Viciouss said: »
The Republicans were handed the statements last night at the same time as everyone else, short of the 24 hours, but still provided. No impact whatsoever.
This is outright false.
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House Freedom Caucus chair Rep. Mark Meadows attempted to postpone the hearing saying it was an "intentional effort" by Michael Cohen to "show his disdain" for the congressional body by not providing his testimony more than 24 hours in advance.
This is not evidence that he got the opening statement with proper notice.
Thank you captain obviousman....
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-02-27 14:56:22
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Lol. Libs are living in the success of Trump’s taunting language and they’re so butthurt they were wrong that they’re just making up a new *** “social construct” for them to live in where it didnt happen
Don't forget they spit in the face of those that have sacrificed their lives for their freedom, which they have more in abundance of than many other countries.

Not all tho, the ones that respect military servicemen don't count in my sentence above.
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By Nausi 2019-02-27 14:58:47
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Viciouss said: »
Nausi said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Nausi said: »
Viciouss said: »
The Republicans were handed the statements last night at the same time as everyone else, short of the 24 hours, but still provided. No impact whatsoever.
This is outright false.
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House Freedom Caucus chair Rep. Mark Meadows attempted to postpone the hearing saying it was an "intentional effort" by Michael Cohen to "show his disdain" for the congressional body by not providing his testimony more than 24 hours in advance.
This is not evidence that he got the opening statement with proper notice.

Still waiting on you to source any evidence that the Dems were handed the statements last night and the GOP members did not receive them. Actually, waiting on you to source that allegation, because it didn't come from Meadows.
No one has to justify anythjng to you, mr “i just make ***up”
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By Nausi 2019-02-27 14:59:33
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Its not like NK has stopped working on their missile technology, whatever capability they had when they were testing them has only improved. Literally nothing has changed over there.
Yes but have they been provoking and sticking it the eye of their neighbors to the South and East of them? Launching more missiles would just jeopardize the concessions the US would give up. Its a smart move of them to cooperate.

There has been a huge fundamental shift in the relations between North and South Korea, they doing stuff now that hasn't ever been done before.
Don’t tell vic that, he’s all out of butthurt salve.
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By Nausi 2019-02-27 15:00:07
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Nausi said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Nausi said: »
Viciouss said: »
The Republicans were handed the statements last night at the same time as everyone else, short of the 24 hours, but still provided. No impact whatsoever.
This is outright false.
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House Freedom Caucus chair Rep. Mark Meadows attempted to postpone the hearing saying it was an "intentional effort" by Michael Cohen to "show his disdain" for the congressional body by not providing his testimony more than 24 hours in advance.
This is not evidence that he got the opening statement with proper notice.
Thank you captain obviousman....
What was your point in posting it then?
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-02-27 15:00:09
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How is it better to hand a victory to a despot without receiving anything in return? Every US President has refused to meet with the NK leader because he has murdered his own people on a regular basis, we didn't want to legitimize him. Now, Trump has endorsed that behavior not once but twice, and NK is still executing its own citizens while continuing its nuclear program.
Ignore nausi's idiocy, what has the US gotten out of NK? They haven't changed their behavior in any way, Dan Coats testified to that last month and it spun Trump into a frenzy because it shatters his narrative that he is accomplishing things.

THIS:
Asura.Saevel said: »
There has been a huge fundamental shift in the relations between North and South Korea, they doing stuff now that hasn't ever been done before.

Short of invading to liberate that country from evil socialism, can really be *** done? Either you want to stop their citizens being killed by their own government, by FORCE, or you let them keep rotting for generations. Which?

Plan A: Invade, free them

Plan B: Negotiate so they don't mess with our allies?

Give other options Vic, cause previous presidents, including your hallowed saint, haven't done better. I assume you don't want Plan A and invade to liberate them.
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2019-02-27 15:05:55
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Fone, Nausi, Saev!

Fly a plane, and let me do this

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By Viciouss 2019-02-27 15:13:55
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Wow nausi has gone full troll mode.

Back to the adult conversation.

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Short of invading to liberate that country from evil socialism, can really be *** done? Either you want to stop their citizens being killed by their own government, by FORCE, or you let them keep rotting for generations. Which?

Plan A: Invade, free them

Plan B: Negotiate so they don't mess with our allies?

Give other options Vic, cause previous presidents, including your hallowed saint, haven't done better. I assume you don't want Plan A and invade to liberate them.

Plan A has never been on the table, like I said, we have never been close to that. When Trump tweets out that Obama told him he was on the brink of war with NK, he is lying, straight up. Obama never told him that.

Plan B has always been in effect, the difference is Trump's effort to paint reality differently.

The US has always been "negotiating" or really pressuring China to keep NK "in line," "out of touch," "living in the *** stone age," whatever you want to call it. Trump would have the world believe that he is now negotiating directly with NK and everything that is happening is because of him. Hint: He is wrong.
Remember when NK announced the Singapore meeting with Trump and China immediately summoned Little Rocket Man to bring his *** via train to the principal's office so they could go over exactly what is gonna happen? China is still calling all of the shots in this little charade. Whatever NK announces in Hanoi, China already knows it, because they told him what to say.
And the reason that NK has continued its nuclear program is because China has told them to. They are obviously not gonna help the world out on this one as long as Trump insists on his stupid tariffs that are hurting everyone.

So really, as long as the dumb trade war continues, nothing is going to change in NK, regardless of the flashy photo ops.
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