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By Shiva.Shruiken 2018-12-20 23:48:55
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foney you still play ffxi?
Yea a little bit.
come join us on shiva! we have punch and pie.
You know, I saw that thread about how easy it was to start over, I am considering coming back to Shiva. Still don't know if I want to deal with Playonline tho.
I tried to log in on welcome back events, sometimes I made it.

But I have lost all my macros.

shivas always been good. i'd like to play again but have a damn macbook air that cant really run it well :( don't really wanna get a pc just for it.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2018-12-21 00:17:57
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fonewear said: »
Forget we need more Simpsons clips
The lack of Simpson’s memes in this thread clearly a homerphobic micro aggression!


https://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-star/20160607/281904477442473
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By Viciouss 2018-12-21 08:16:49
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lol, Trump in full desperation mode as he asks McConnell to nuke the filibuster for his stupid wall, too bad there is no support for that option in the Senate GOP. The House can either pass the clean CR or the government will shut down for Christmas.
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By Zerowone 2018-12-21 09:16:39
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lol, Trump in full desperation mode as he asks McConnell to nuke the filibuster for his stupid wall, too bad there is no support for that option in the Senate GOP. The House can either pass the clean CR or the government will shut down for Christmas.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/422426-fox-friends-co-host-trump-just-refounded-isis-by-pulling-troops-out

When Fox and Friends turns on the Admin...
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By Siren.Mosin 2018-12-21 09:17:25
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Viciouss said: »
You know, I saw that thread about how easy it was to start over, I am considering coming back to Shiva. Still don't know if I want to deal with Playonline tho.

join us! it's the best time you can have in your living room with your clothes on.
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By Zerowone 2018-12-21 09:20:05
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Mattis’ resignation letter:

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Dear Mr. President:

I have been privileged to serve as our country's 26th Secretary of Defense which has allowed me to serve alongside our men and women of the Department in defense of our citizens and our ideals.

I am proud of the progress that has been made over the past two years on some of the key goals articulated in our National Defense Strategy: putting the Department on a more sound budgetary footing, improving readiness and lethality in our forces, and reforming the Department's business practices for greater performance. Our troops continue to provide the capabilities needed to prevail in conflict and sustain strong U.S. global influence.

One core belief I have always held is that our strength as a nation is inextricably linked to the strength of our unique and comprehensive system of alliances and partnerships. While the US remains the indispensable nation in the free world, we cannot protect our interests or serve that role effectively without maintaining strong alliances and showing respect to those allies. Like you, I have said from the beginning that the armed forces of the United States should not be the policeman of the world. Instead, we must use all tools of American power to provide for the common defense, including providing effective leadership to our alliances. NATO's 29 democracies demonstrated that strength in their commitment to fighting alongside us following the 9-11 attack on America. The Defeat-ISIS coalition of 74 nations is further proof.

Similarly, I believe we must be resolute and unambiguous in our approach to those countries whose strategic interests are increasingly in tension with ours. It is clear that China and Russia, for example, want to shape a world consistent with their authoritarian model - gaining veto authority over other nations' economic, diplomatic, and security decisions - to promote their own interests at the expense of their neighbors, America and our allies. That is why we must use all the tools of American power to provide for the common defense.

My views on treating allies with respect and also being clear-eyed about both malign actors and strategic competitors are strongly held and informed by over four decades of immersion in these issues. We must do everything possible to advance an international order that is most conducive to our security, prosperity and values, and we are strengthened in this effort by the solidarity of our alliances.

Because you have the right to have a Secretary of Defense whose views are better aligned with yours on these and other subjects, I believe it is right for me to step down from my position. The end date for my tenure is February 28, 2019, a date that should allow sufficient time for a successor to be nominated and confirmed as well as to make sure the Department's interests are properly articulated and protected at upcoming events to include Congressional posture hearings and the NATO Defense Ministerial meeting in February. Further, that a full transition to a new Secretary of Defense occurs well in advance of the transition of Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in September in order to ensure stability Within the Department.

I pledge my full effort to a smooth transition that ensures the needs and interests of the 2.15 million Service Members and 732,079 DoD civilians receive undistracted attention of the Department at all times so that they can fulfill their critical, round-the-clock mission to protect the American people.

I very much appreciate this opportunity to serve the nation and our men and women in uniform.

That’s some juicy subtext.
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By Viciouss 2018-12-21 09:21:58
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Viciouss said: »
lol, Trump in full desperation mode as he asks McConnell to nuke the filibuster for his stupid wall, too bad there is no support for that option in the Senate GOP. The House can either pass the clean CR or the government will shut down for Christmas.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/422426-fox-friends-co-host-trump-just-refounded-isis-by-pulling-troops-out

When Fox and Friends turns on the Admin...

Yeah, that's why this is all happening, Ann Coulter and Fox News got in Trump's head. Trump is shutting down the government because Ann Coulter said she wouldn't vote for him. Combine that with his decision to retreat from Syria and Afghanistan, Mattis resigning over it, there are no more adults in the WH.
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By Viciouss 2018-12-21 09:24:31
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Zerowone said: »
Mattis’ resignation letter:

That’s some juicy subtext.

It was the most polite way to call Trump an idiot. Good luck replacing Mattis, its going to be damn near impossible to find anyone that supports the Syria and Afghanistan retreat and commands the respect that Mad Dog did. And even if he does find some yes man for the job, good luck getting him confirmed by the Senate.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-12-21 09:29:21
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Servinng for around 700 days is pretty much the norm.

“Mountain out of a molehill”
That's 70 scaramuccis! Almost a record for this administration.
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By Zerowone 2018-12-21 09:30:09
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I got money on he’s going to start a war. The media likes wars and he’s a simple ego driven narcissist. However the war will be some dumb ***that favors China and Russia in the long run... like all of his foreign policy decisions.
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By Zerowone 2018-12-21 09:31:29
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Nausi said: »
Servinng for around 700 days is pretty much the norm.

“Mountain out of a molehill”
That's 70 scaramuccis! Almost a record for this administration.

Checks the Mooch conversion table.

10 days = 1 Mooch

Match checks out.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-12-21 09:33:14
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Shiva.Shruiken said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Viciouss said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
fonewear said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
foney you still play ffxi?
Yea a little bit.
come join us on shiva! we have punch and pie.
You know, I saw that thread about how easy it was to start over, I am considering coming back to Shiva. Still don't know if I want to deal with Playonline tho.
I tried to log in on welcome back events, sometimes I made it.

But I have lost all my macros.
shivas always been good. i'd like to play again but have a damn macbook air that cant really run it well :( don't really wanna get a pc just for it.
Its available for android and mac phones now.
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By Viciouss 2018-12-21 09:37:44
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Zerowone said: »
I got money on he’s going to start a war. The media likes wars and he’s a simple ego driven narcissist. However the war will be some dumb ***that favors China and Russia in the long run... like all of his foreign policy decisions.

I doubt it, Congress would never sign off on it. Don't get me wrong, Trump is stupid enough to try it. I mean, he just ran away from ISIS and the Taliban, that's a permanent stain that will eventually cause him to boil over and do something even worse. But Congress wouldn't vote for it.
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By Zerowone 2018-12-21 09:41:08
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Viciouss said: »
Zerowone said: »
I got money on he’s going to start a war. The media likes wars and he’s a simple ego driven narcissist. However the war will be some dumb ***that favors China and Russia in the long run... like all of his foreign policy decisions.

I doubt it, Congress would never sign off on it. Don't get me wrong, Trump is stupid enough to try it. I mean, he just ran away from ISIS and the Taliban, that's a permanent stain that will eventually cause him to boil over and do something even worse. But Congress wouldn't vote for it.

Oh I agree. I suspect he’s going to go the “I don’t need congressional approval” *fires off some tomahawks and some relatively perceived weak nation who was economic ties to Russia and China*
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By Viciouss 2018-12-21 09:43:07
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Yeah, I would say that's definitely possible. I don't really know the target atm, but he will find a way. The criticism will force him to.
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By Zerowone 2018-12-21 09:47:14
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https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1076132028888825857

Oh the Lulz that are going to be had today.
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By Viciouss 2018-12-21 09:50:09
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Oh yeah, its going to be a hilarious day. The GOP is meeting with Trump to tell him he doesn't have the votes, and some senators were blocked at the door. Great start.
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By fonewear 2018-12-21 10:26:22
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Viciouss said: »
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Viciouss said: »
lol, Trump in full desperation mode as he asks McConnell to nuke the filibuster for his stupid wall, too bad there is no support for that option in the Senate GOP. The House can either pass the clean CR or the government will shut down for Christmas.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/422426-fox-friends-co-host-trump-just-refounded-isis-by-pulling-troops-out

When Fox and Friends turns on the Admin...

Yeah, that's why this is all happening, Ann Coulter and Fox News got in Trump's head. Trump is shutting down the government because Ann Coulter said she wouldn't vote for him. Combine that with his decision to retreat from Syria and Afghanistan, Mattis resigning over it, there are no more adults in the WH.

No adults on FFXIAH either.
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By fonewear 2018-12-21 10:27:40
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Oh no Fox News that's a trigger word for me. Let me get on the internet and express my disgust !

If we all just watch CNN the world would hold hands and sing in harmony.
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By fonewear 2018-12-21 10:30:22
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FFXIAH basically:

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By Viciouss 2018-12-21 10:32:51
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And here is fonewear!
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By fonewear 2018-12-21 10:41:24
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Where's the Christmas spirit !

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By fonewear 2018-12-21 10:45:32
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What's so stinking about Trump ?

It's a stinking world because before Trump my life had no meaning !

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By Anna Ruthven 2018-12-21 10:45:57
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fonewear said: »
Viciouss said: »
Zerowone said: »
Viciouss said: »
lol, Trump in full desperation mode as he asks McConnell to nuke the filibuster for his stupid wall, too bad there is no support for that option in the Senate GOP. The House can either pass the clean CR or the government will shut down for Christmas.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/422426-fox-friends-co-host-trump-just-refounded-isis-by-pulling-troops-out

When Fox and Friends turns on the Admin...

Yeah, that's why this is all happening, Ann Coulter and Fox News got in Trump's head. Trump is shutting down the government because Ann Coulter said she wouldn't vote for him. Combine that with his decision to retreat from Syria and Afghanistan, Mattis resigning over it, there are no more adults in the WH.

No adults on FFXIAH either.
Yeah, well, you're smelly and a poo-poo head.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-12-21 11:28:50
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I really don't think cadet bone spurs will launch a war.

He is busy sucking up to Putin, can't engage China in any military fashion, retreating in the middle east leaving it wide open to Iran and Syria, and can't get involved in Yemen either.

All the best hot spots are out of contention and there is really no where else he can start a war.

He could surprise me though.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2018-12-21 11:35:56
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
I really don't think cadet bone spurs will launch a war.

would anyone even notice if he did?

we're involved in at least 26 wars right now and nobody cares....
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-12-21 11:43:21
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
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I really don't think cadet bone spurs will launch a war.

would anyone even notice if he did?

we're involved in at least 26 wars right now and nobody cares....
25, we're pulling out of Syria like it's our prom date.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-12-21 11:56:47
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What the media thinks about wars in the Middle East over the years:

2001-2008: War is the worst thing ever. We have no business interfering in the affairs of the Middle East. Our troops need to be brought home immediately! While we're at it, enjoy this footage of caskets with American flags draped over them.

2009-2016: *Snore*

2017-Today: Bringing troops home is akin to treason! It's what Putin wants! We need to have troops in the Middle East to bring stability to the region and fight terrorism!
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By fonewear 2018-12-21 11:57:57
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
I really don't think cadet bone spurs will launch a war.

would anyone even notice if he did?

we're involved in at least 26 wars right now and nobody cares....

I'm still upset about the war of 1812 !
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