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By Viciouss 2018-12-20 14:18:33
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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Oops looks like that wall fence is back on the table

Did you notice the request for steel slats? Where did that come from? Is it negogiable? Will he accept Aluminum? How about faux wood?

Doesnt matter, he is getting nothing. Bob Corker had the best reaction, pretty sure he has cast his last vote. The senate is done.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2018-12-20 14:24:02
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
fence is back on the table

don't worry shiroi we'll still be relying on the bars of soap we have hanging from tree branches near the border to keep the smelly french canadians out...

just exchange your monopoly money for some real dollars and come on down!
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2018-12-20 14:25:58
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By fonewear 2018-12-20 14:28:59
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foney you still play ffxi?

Yea a little bit.
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By fonewear 2018-12-20 14:29:50
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It Canada they don't have Christmas they watch a hockey game instead.
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By Nausi 2018-12-20 14:30:40
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Nausi said: »
Oops looks like that wall fence is back on the table
Bro if you think you somehow win by declaring it a 15 foot high steel barrier, then good for you. We’re boh winners.
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By Viciouss 2018-12-20 14:42:22
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It doesnt even look like the House could pass any bill without the Dems because of all the outgoing Republicans quitting early. They cleaned out their offices and said goodbye. So if Trump shuts the government down its going to stay that way until the next Congress. And nothing will have changed, there will be no money for a stupid wall.
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By Nausi 2018-12-20 14:53:43
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If all it takes is 5 billion on top of 4 trillion to avoid a shutdown, we’re gonna get a wall.

Say it with me Vic:

“Build that wall!”
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By Odin.Slore 2018-12-20 14:58:51
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The gofund me page setup by that Vet has raised $6.82million for the wall in 3 days!
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By clearlyamule 2018-12-20 15:28:31
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The gofund me page setup by that Vet has raised $6.82million for the wall in 3 days!
Hopefully this sets a precedent and all major items get funding thru a gofund me.
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By Zerowone 2018-12-20 15:56:33
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And the money will go nowhere.

Government departments can’t take donations it impacts their budgets. Whatever they we’re to accept they can expect not to receive the next fiscal year.

This has already been turned down.
 
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By fonewear 2018-12-20 16:18:39
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Forget we need more Simpsons clips

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By Zerowone 2018-12-20 16:20:06
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Forget we need more Simpsons clips

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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-12-20 16:20:20
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
just exchange your monopoly money for some real dollars and come on down!
I will! I'll be spending some time in the best state there is, Florida!
Flordia, the gunshine state.
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By Siren.Mosin 2018-12-20 16:44:38
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fonewear said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
foney you still play ffxi?

Yea a little bit.

come join us on shiva! we have punch and pie.
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By Nausi 2018-12-20 19:19:10
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House approves 5.7 billion for the wall!

Prepare for salt. I repeat prepare for salt!
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By Viciouss 2018-12-20 19:22:14
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Why? The Senate isn't even going to take it up. Its dead.
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By Viciouss 2018-12-20 19:28:49
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Siren.Mosin said: »
fonewear said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
foney you still play ffxi?

Yea a little bit.

come join us on shiva! we have punch and pie.

You know, I saw that thread about how easy it was to start over, I am considering coming back to Shiva. Still don't know if I want to deal with Playonline tho.
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By clearlyamule 2018-12-20 19:37:31
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Oh ***you on Shiva
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By Viciouss 2018-12-20 19:42:27
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Started on Alex yeah.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-12-20 19:55:30
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Viciouss said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
fonewear said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
foney you still play ffxi?
Yea a little bit.
come join us on shiva! we have punch and pie.
You know, I saw that thread about how easy it was to start over, I am considering coming back to Shiva. Still don't know if I want to deal with Playonline tho.
I tried to log in on welcome back events, sometimes I made it.

But I have lost all my macros.
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By Viciouss 2018-12-20 20:12:02
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General Mattis quitting SECDEF over differences with Trump


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Defense Secretary Jim Mattis announced his resignation on Thursday, citing differences over policy with Donald Trump, a day after the president abruptly called for the withdrawal of American forces from Syria.

Mattis informed the president of his decision in a meeting earlier in the afternoon in which the two discussed policy differences that have included the president’s decision to pull out of Syria, said a White House official. Mattis’s departure didn’t cause the president to rethink his decision on Syria, the official added.

In a two-page letter to the president, Mattis laid out his convictions on the value of U.S. leadership in strategic alliances, including the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and the 74-nation coalition to defeat Islamic State. His letter also suggested differences with Trump over the president’s handling of strategic challenges posed by Russia and China.

“Because you have the right to have a Secretary of Defense whose views are better aligned with yours on these and other subjects, I believe it is right for me to step down from my position,” Mattis said in the letter to Trump released by the Pentagon.

Moments earlier, Trump announced the news on Twitter, saying that Mattis would be the latest senior official to leave his Cabinet and that the former Marine general would be “retiring, with distinction, at the end of February.” Trump said he would name a new Pentagon chief “shortly.”

Republican Senator Marco Rubio said in a tweet Mattis’s resignation letter “makes it abundantly clear that we are headed towards a series of grave policy errors which will endanger our nation, damage our alliances & empower our adversaries.”

“This is scary,” Senator Mark Warner, the top-ranking Democrat on the Intelligence Committee, said in a tweet posted shortly after the announcement. “Secretary Mattis has been an island of stability amidst the chaos of the Trump administration.”

House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi said she was “shaken” by his resignation.

Mattis departs at a fraught moment in American foreign policy as the administration grapples with North Korean nuclear talks, Russian aggression in Ukraine and growing influence in Syria, rising tensions with Iran and an ongoing trade war with China.

What a dumpster fire, he hated the decision to retreat from Syria. That was apparently the last straw.

Oh yeah, North Korea announced it was halting its denuclearization efforts (that never actually started) today as well.
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By Nausi 2018-12-20 20:54:55
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Servinng for around 700 days is pretty much the norm.

“Mountain out of a molehill”
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By Viciouss 2018-12-20 20:58:35
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Nausi in full spin mode, this is a topic he knows nothing about, ignore him.
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By Viciouss 2018-12-20 21:00:02
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If you're out there in the world and you consider yourself an enemy of the United States, you won the lottery with Trump.
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By Nausi 2018-12-20 21:01:49
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconciliation_(United_States_Congress)

They don’t need any democrats for this vote. 50+ vo will do it.
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By Viciouss 2018-12-20 21:11:51
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Haha, no. Reconciliation has never and will never be able to be used for the budget. That's cute tho. Really, it is. You need 60 votes in the Senate. 60.
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By Viciouss 2018-12-20 21:14:01
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Here, Fox News (as well as every single news outlet), even knows you need 60.

Fox News

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The House of Representatives Thursday approved a bill that would fund most of the federal government through early February -- and provides $5.7 billion for President Trump's long-promised border wall, increasing the chances of a partial government shutdown later this week.
Eight Republicans joined all 177 voting Democrats to oppose the measure, which passed 217-185. The bill now goes to the Senate, where it is certain to fall short of the 60 votes needed for passage since the chamber's 49 Democrats are against funding the wall. That, in turn, makes it more likely that parts of the federal government, including nine of 15 Cabinet-level departments and dozens of agencies, will cease operations at midnight Friday.


Effortless.
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