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Random Politics & Religion #32
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2018-02-16 13:47:56
No American knowingly participated, and the meddling did not affect the outcome of the election. So, only some Russians are being charged. A bit underwhelming, but that's cool I guess.
I wonder how many of our liberal friends that scream about Russian interference attended Anti-Trump rallies after the election that were organized by these Russians.
By clearlyamule 2018-02-16 13:50:16
Well if more guns = less gun homicides, more gun ownership per household would logically further decrease the homicide rate.
Hard to tell, homicides went down while the gun per household went down a little so it's contradictory and I'm unsure how people owning 2-3 guns helps lowering homicide rates.
I'd say it's non-conclusive. Let's you keep more in different places...
Now I know this sounds crazy but it can help. Just a year or 2 ago not too far from me some old dude's house got broke into. Can't remember the details but at some point him and the intruder were in the bathroom and the robber not paying attention because who does when someone is using the bathroom when bam from behind the toilet a gun. The best part was after getting shot the robber ran away and called 911 trying to report being shot for no reason lol. Well that and he got several in before the old dude fired back
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-02-16 14:03:04
No American knowingly participated, and the meddling did not affect the outcome of the election. So, only some Russians are being charged. A bit underwhelming, but that's cool I guess.
It's not exactly what was said, the indictments don't involve any Americans, but I haven't seen anything about the investigation being over yet.
What I've fond very interesting is the support they gave to Bernie Sanders which went unnoticed.
Which goes to show how effective they were....
At any rate, sure, the investigation continues. I doubt it's anything to get your hopes up over, though.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-02-16 14:11:27
No American knowingly participated, and the meddling did not affect the outcome of the election.... A slight misreading.
Quote: there was no allegation that any American was "a knowing participant in this illegal activity" nor was it alleged that the meddling altered the election outcome.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-02-16 14:15:49
No American knowingly participated, and the meddling did not affect the outcome of the election.... A slight misreading.
Quote: there was no allegation that any American was "a knowing participant in this illegal activity" nor was it alleged that the meddling altered the election outcome.
This is an odd thing to be splitting hairs over.
Keep the dream alive, y'all.
By Nausi 2018-02-16 14:18:28
I'm unsure how people owning 2-3 guns helps lowering homicide rates.
That's easy, more guns per household means more potential people carrying firearms? Husband and wife or son or daughters could all be potential carriers of weapons.
I'm unsure how more guns per household helps increase gun homicides with the exception of in a mass shooting where the suspect can draw from more than one firearm. Although it's important to point out that only 1 rifle was used in this week's shooting.
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By Ramyrez 2018-02-16 14:27:22
But really, a kid with 100 knives is no more dangerous than a kid with 2 knives, unless that kid happens to be Gilgamesh.
You don't know me.
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By Zerowone 2018-02-16 14:31:31
This is why I posted the indictments instead of articles you look for something that makes you comfortable and miss out on gold:
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77- On or about August 1 8, 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators sent money via interstate wire to another real U.S. person recruited by the ORGANIZATION, using one of their false U.S. personas, to build a cage large enough to hold an actress depicting Clinton in a prison uniform.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-02-16 14:36:31
This is why I posted the indictments instead of articles you look for something that makes you comfortable and miss out on gold:
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77- On or about August 1 8, 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators sent money via interstate wire to another real U.S. person recruited by the ORGANIZATION, using one of their false U.S. personas, to build a cage large enough to hold an actress depicting Clinton in a prison uniform.
That don't make me uncomfortable. That's hilarious.
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By Nausi 2018-02-16 14:42:25
This is why I posted the indictments instead of articles you look for something that makes you comfortable and miss out on gold:
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77- On or about August 1 8, 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators sent money via interstate wire to another real U.S. person recruited by the ORGANIZATION, using one of their false U.S. personas, to build a cage large enough to hold an actress depicting Clinton in a prison uniform.
That don't make me uncomfortable. That's hilarious. you mean to tell me I got a kick out of something that ended up being Russian meddling?
Clearly I have to commit seppuku now that I know how I contributed to destroying America.
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By fonewear 2018-02-16 14:45:35
This is why I posted the indictments instead of articles you look for something that makes you comfortable and miss out on gold:
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77- On or about August 1 8, 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators sent money via interstate wire to another real U.S. person recruited by the ORGANIZATION, using one of their false U.S. personas, to build a cage large enough to hold an actress depicting Clinton in a prison uniform.
On or about Feb. 16. 2018 I don't give a ***let the record show.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2018-02-16 14:47:50
Secondly you can say all you want that more guns means more shootings, but you would not have any real evidence for making that claim.
Conversely it's very easy to simply observe that self proclaimed "gun free zones" are generally where mass shootings occur. Show me your evidence then...
You can’t simply call out for one side to provide evidence then state your observation is simple to only observe lol... do you know for sure if this most recent school in Florida is a gun free zone? Was the mass shooting at the concert last year a gun free zone? Are cop killers in gun free zones? Simple fact nausi is you’re just like those you condemn... you don’t put any thought or provide evidence to back up your opinions and you just present them as correct because you believe it to be so...
The United States has more personally owned guns than anyone in the developed world and more mass shootings as well... more guns more gun violence?
So what would be responsible for bringing the homicide rate down DESPITE there being more guns? It would have to be pretty potent because it would have to overwhelm the massive growth in gun ownership. If it's so potent I would think it should be pretty easy to name. Where do you get your information that there is massive growth in gun ownership?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-02-16 14:52:37
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-02-16 14:56:48
No American knowingly participated, and the meddling did not affect the outcome of the election.... A slight misreading.
Quote: there was no allegation that any American was "a knowing participant in this illegal activity" nor was it alleged that the meddling altered the election outcome. This is an odd thing to be splitting hairs over. No. They are two quite different statements.
Your version states as facts things the original says weren't alleged.
But keep on misquoting as long as it makes you feel better.
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By Zerowone 2018-02-16 15:30:44
This is why I posted the indictments instead of articles you look for something that makes you comfortable and miss out on gold:
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77- On or about August 1 8, 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators sent money via interstate wire to another real U.S. person recruited by the ORGANIZATION, using one of their false U.S. personas, to build a cage large enough to hold an actress depicting Clinton in a prison uniform.
That don't make me uncomfortable. That's hilarious.
That’s the point! You read the article and quickly quoted the comment about “...no Americans knowingly participated...” Whereas if you read the indictments you get little golden nuggets like that.
It’s almost as good as Trumps new golden quote “She likes Big Black ***”.
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2018/02/report-trump-spoke-on-white-women-liking-big-black-***-how-he-covered-up-his-affairs-with-playboy-models-didnt-want-tiger-woods-around-his-mistresses/
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-black-racist-playboy-affair-809013
By Viciouss 2018-02-16 15:35:32
Stopped backreading when I saw an attempt to make theft and homicide comparable crimes. I'm surprised I got that far honestly, but that is some serious stupidity.
By Viciouss 2018-02-16 15:38:46
I'm sure trump is glad its Friday and the week is over, because it was a disaster for him. Probably should stay away from Florida this weekend.
By Zerowone 2018-02-16 15:46:23
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-02-16 16:15:17
I don't disagree that collectively pushing someone into the realm of outcast is part of this pathology, as no doubt are the drugs people take to deal with feelings. I would however point out that the delicate snowflake/kid gloves/everyone gets a trophy attitude that we have been dumping into youth for the last 25-30 years has made them more fragile, more weak, and more incapable of dealing with life's obstacles.
The kiddy gloves certainly don't help the problem but the source of the issue is the disintegration of the nuclear family caused by feminism and feminist originated laws. Shits gone to hell in a hand basket and children no longer have anything resembling family support structures to fall back on when stuff gets like this. I know from personal experience what these children go through and I'm very fortunate to have strong family that helped me through years of depression. If I hadn't had that then I could very easily of ended up like one of these unbalanced mass shooters.
Also why I can see right through the "gun control" *** the leftists like to push. That's nothing but a blatant power grab by them and it's shameful.
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By fonewear 2018-02-16 16:18:12
Stopped backreading when I saw an attempt to make theft and homicide comparable crimes. I'm surprised I got that far honestly, but that is some serious stupidity.
Don't lie Vic you didn't read anything.
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By fonewear 2018-02-16 16:23:29
This is why I posted the indictments instead of articles you look for something that makes you comfortable and miss out on gold:
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77- On or about August 1 8, 2016, Defendants and their co-conspirators sent money via interstate wire to another real U.S. person recruited by the ORGANIZATION, using one of their false U.S. personas, to build a cage large enough to hold an actress depicting Clinton in a prison uniform.
That don't make me uncomfortable. That's hilarious. you mean to tell me I got a kick out of something that ended up being Russian meddling?
Clearly I have to commit seppuku now that I know how I contributed to destroying America.
I actively seek the destruction of Earth. We've been on this stupid rock too long. If that dumb *** in NK could just drop the nukes already that would be great.
By fonewear 2018-02-16 16:24:39
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »No American knowingly participated, and the meddling did not affect the outcome of the election. So, only some Russians are being charged. A bit underwhelming, but that's cool I guess.
I wonder how many of our liberal friends that scream about Russian interference attended Anti-Trump rallies after the election that were organized by these Russians.
The thing is liberals don't have any friends. They are too busy joining a cause or a movement.
By fonewear 2018-02-16 16:25:56
Liberals are everything they claim to hate. Self righteous intolerant racist biased towards city life. Seek to control others through endless gov. regulation etc. I could go own but let's just say they are miserable ***.
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By Zerowone 2018-02-16 17:09:53
Liberals are everything they claim to hate. Self righteous intolerant racist biased towards city life. Seek to control others through endless gov. regulation etc. I could go own but let's just say they are miserable ***.
Sending you thoughts and prayers... hey if it’s good enough for the families of people who lost their loved ones to gun violence then it should be enough for you right.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-02-16 17:44:04
The phrase "thoughts and prayers" is one of many idioms in the English language that has always bugged me.
I get the "prayers" part, because even the most cynical atheist would have to admit that if someone is following through and actually praying for the welfare of people instead of just saying it, that's at least an attempt to do something positive, which is more than can be said of the 99%+ of people who just whine while it's hot news and then proceed to forget about it until the next shooting.
But thoughts? What in the heck are thoughts going to do? And how do you send them? Are you telepathic?
"Hey, you know that big story that the media won't let you forget because it's a huge political focal point? Yeah, thanks for acknowledging that it kinda sucks for those of us who were involved.... Oh sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt your pointless political discussion. But anyway, your thoughts, they're great. Huge help there. Thanks."
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By Zerowone 2018-02-16 18:09:11
It’s pretty nebulous in that you can send horrible thoughts and demonic prayers.
“I told you I’m sending thoughts and prayers. I just never said what kind.”
By fonewear 2018-02-16 18:26:20
I don't know what people expect politicians to do. They can't stop some *** with a gun. I would be ok if we said well one less *** in the free world. Enjoy prison.
By Viciouss 2018-02-16 18:27:35
I don't know what people expect politicians to do. They can't stop some *** with a gun. I would be ok if we said well one less *** in the free world. Enjoy prison.
*Death row.
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It's like the last one just kept going and going and going and now it's dead! \o/
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