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By Anna Ruthven 2018-03-15 13:39:56
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Mueller firing incoming.
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By Zerowone 2018-03-15 13:41:39
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Anna Ruthven said: »
Mueller firing incoming.

First there has to be a Session/Rosenstein firings
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-03-15 13:42:02
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You’re definitely worse than most anything I can think of...

I'd say same level as CJ.
CJ has been warned about publicly hoping for people to die in here. If Slore thinks it's ok, he's wrong.
 
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By Zerowone 2018-03-15 13:59:32
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Candlejack said: »
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Anna Ruthven said: »
Mueller firing incoming.

First there has to be a Session/Rosenstein firings
Even then, it'd trigger obstruction charges and an immediate arrest.

Don’t know if it would trigger an arrest but it would theoretically force Republican legislators to stop pretending laws only matter when Democrats are in the executive office.
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-03-15 14:22:34
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Candlejack said: »
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Anna Ruthven said: »
Mueller firing incoming.

First there has to be a Session/Rosenstein firings
Even then, it'd trigger obstruction charges and an immediate arrest.
It would trigger a shitstorm, I'm not sure who actually has the authority to arrest the president. It would cause a shitstorm that would possibly lead to impeachment attempts.

Remember, GoP is in control and they aren't likely to give two shits if he fires Mueller.
 
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-03-15 14:38:05
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It would trigger a shitstorm, I'm not sure who actually has the authority to arrest the president. It would cause a shitstorm that would possibly lead to impeachment attempts.

Remember, GoP is in control and they aren't likely to give two shits if he fires Mueller.
Congress has the authority to order the president to be arrested, and right now, even with the Repukes being in charge, they're in a unique position of having to do what's right even if they don't want to do it, or lose all control of congress, the presidency, and the SCOTUS for close to a hundred years if they refuse.
You gotta take into consideration the voters. You have around half of the population who buys into the facts I don't like thing and actively disbelieve just about anything they don't want to hear. Trump fires Mueller, makes up a reason, calls actual reason facts I don't like, Congress stands behind him, nothing gets done.
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-03-15 14:39:06
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Basically the belief in facts I don't like is a very, very powerful and dangerous thing.
 
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-03-15 14:50:24
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Candlejack said: »
Anna Ruthven said: »
It would trigger a shitstorm, I'm not sure who actually has the authority to arrest the president. It would cause a shitstorm that would possibly lead to impeachment attempts.

Remember, GoP is in control and they aren't likely to give two shits if he fires Mueller.
Congress has the authority to order the president to be arrested, and right now, even with the Repukes being in charge, they're in a unique position of having to do what's right even if they don't want to do it, or lose all control of congress, the presidency, and the SCOTUS for close to a hundred years if they refuse.
There is one little problem with that statement.

The American electorate has the memory of a gnat.
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-03-15 14:51:39
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I still doubt him firing Mueller would cause any more of a blue wave than we're already expecting. A lot of conservative voters think the Mueller probe is a waste of time and money, not to mention a witch hunt.

Sort of like how people looked at the investigations into Hillary's involvement in Benghazi and her emails. Hence why I make fun of such things.
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-03-15 14:53:28
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Also, apparently police could arrest a sitting president, as it has happened before with Grant but with the Secret Service, they'd never have a chance to approach to make the arrest.
 
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-03-15 15:04:14
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In case anyone is interested this is the full release of the house intel committee democrat's response to the shutdown of the investigation.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4408770/Final-HPSCI-Minority-Russia-Investigation-Status.pdf
 
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-03-15 15:08:03
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What's the difference between this news and the news from the past year? Nothing. There still isn't any evidence to implicate Trump.
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-03-15 15:09:35
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
What's the difference between this news and the news from the past year? Nothing. There still isn't any evidence to implicate Trump.
None public anyway. I wouldn't read too much into the HIC's conclusion.
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By Nausi 2018-03-15 15:11:38
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
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Trump stands in the middle of 5th Avenue, starts shooting people, pinned to his coat is his SSN card, his birth certificate, and a name tag reading "Donald J. Trump". Every five shots he stops to state, loudly, "I HEREBY IDENTIFY MYSELF AS THE 45TH PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, DONALD JOHN TRUMP!" On live TV, on all channels.

The right-wingers in P&R would be like "Idk, the way he pronounced his own name was suspect. Probably an imposter." "That SSN card is old and faded, obviously fake." "See how the edge of the birth certificate is? It's fake!" "That name tag doesn't have the usual 'Hello, my name is' on top. Something is fishy here." and finally "It's on TV, it's obviously just special effects."

Bill clinton is a rapist and get defended every goddamn day.

This whole game can be characterized as “loosing by the rules”. If liberals refuse to loose by the rules, why should conservatives?
So you’re sayin that your on the same level as liberals? This is our problem though instead of being better or trying to rise above like either side claims they are everyone seems to just try to fall back down to the lowest level make excuses and then here we are...
Surely if we are to goto wat with Russia, elevating ourselves above using nukes will most certainly ensure our victory.

Seriously dude, you are at the pinnacle of elitism.
What?

Im sure “taking the high road” will be of ample comfort when we are living under a neo-liberal tyrannical state.

That flew over your head? Seriously?
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By Nausi 2018-03-15 15:12:42
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Anna Ruthven said: »
I still doubt him firing Mueller would cause any more of a blue wave than we're already expecting. A lot of conservative voters think the Mueller probe is a waste of time and money, not to mention a witch hunt.

Sort of like how people looked at the investigations into Hillary's involvement in Benghazi and her emails. Hence why I make fun of such things.

Blue wave? Lol.

Only if the Democrats run as conservatives apparently.
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-03-15 15:16:21
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If the NRA is so great, they should force .45 Colt ammo to be as affordable as standard pressure .38 Special.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2018-03-15 15:20:26
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Nausi said: »
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Nausi said: »
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Anna Ruthven said: »
Trump stands in the middle of 5th Avenue, starts shooting people, pinned to his coat is his SSN card, his birth certificate, and a name tag reading "Donald J. Trump". Every five shots he stops to state, loudly, "I HEREBY IDENTIFY MYSELF AS THE 45TH PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, DONALD JOHN TRUMP!" On live TV, on all channels.

The right-wingers in P&R would be like "Idk, the way he pronounced his own name was suspect. Probably an imposter." "That SSN card is old and faded, obviously fake." "See how the edge of the birth certificate is? It's fake!" "That name tag doesn't have the usual 'Hello, my name is' on top. Something is fishy here." and finally "It's on TV, it's obviously just special effects."

Bill clinton is a rapist and get defended every goddamn day.

This whole game can be characterized as “loosing by the rules”. If liberals refuse to loose by the rules, why should conservatives?
So you’re sayin that your on the same level as liberals? This is our problem though instead of being better or trying to rise above like either side claims they are everyone seems to just try to fall back down to the lowest level make excuses and then here we are...
Surely if we are to goto wat with Russia, elevating ourselves above using nukes will most certainly ensure our victory.

Seriously dude, you are at the pinnacle of elitism.
What?

Im sure “taking the high road” will be of ample comfort when we are living under a neo-liberal tyrannical state.

That flew over your head? Seriously?
You throwing up nuclear war with Russia when I comment about you being just as bad as the liberals you so despise is just nonsense... it doesn’t even make sense nor does your posturing that a new liberal tyrannical state is otw unless you don’t take the “high road”... as for it flying over my head I think the things you say only make sense in your own mind...
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-03-15 15:21:59
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Anna Ruthven said: »
If the NRA is so great, they should force .45 Colt ammo to be as affordable as standard pressure .38 Special.
You don't reload?
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-03-15 15:23:36
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If the NRA is so great, they should force .45 Colt ammo to be as affordable as standard pressure .38 Special.
You don't reload?
Not yet but I save my brass.
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By Nausi 2018-03-15 15:24:03
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
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Trump stands in the middle of 5th Avenue, starts shooting people, pinned to his coat is his SSN card, his birth certificate, and a name tag reading "Donald J. Trump". Every five shots he stops to state, loudly, "I HEREBY IDENTIFY MYSELF AS THE 45TH PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, DONALD JOHN TRUMP!" On live TV, on all channels.

The right-wingers in P&R would be like "Idk, the way he pronounced his own name was suspect. Probably an imposter." "That SSN card is old and faded, obviously fake." "See how the edge of the birth certificate is? It's fake!" "That name tag doesn't have the usual 'Hello, my name is' on top. Something is fishy here." and finally "It's on TV, it's obviously just special effects."

Bill clinton is a rapist and get defended every goddamn day.

This whole game can be characterized as “loosing by the rules”. If liberals refuse to loose by the rules, why should conservatives?
So you’re sayin that your on the same level as liberals? This is our problem though instead of being better or trying to rise above like either side claims they are everyone seems to just try to fall back down to the lowest level make excuses and then here we are...
Surely if we are to goto wat with Russia, elevating ourselves above using nukes will most certainly ensure our victory.

Seriously dude, you are at the pinnacle of elitism.
What?

Im sure “taking the high road” will be of ample comfort when we are living under a neo-liberal tyrannical state.

That flew over your head? Seriously?
You throwing up nuclear war with Russia when I comment about you being just as bad as the liberals you so despise is just nonsense... it doesn’t even make sense nor does your posturing that a new liberal tyrannical state is otw unless you don’t take the “high road”... as for it flying over my head I think the things you say only make sense in your own mind...
Dont you need to be 13 to post here?
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2018-03-15 15:31:10
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Nausi said: »
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Nausi said: »
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Nausi said: »
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Trump stands in the middle of 5th Avenue, starts shooting people, pinned to his coat is his SSN card, his birth certificate, and a name tag reading "Donald J. Trump". Every five shots he stops to state, loudly, "I HEREBY IDENTIFY MYSELF AS THE 45TH PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, DONALD JOHN TRUMP!" On live TV, on all channels.

The right-wingers in P&R would be like "Idk, the way he pronounced his own name was suspect. Probably an imposter." "That SSN card is old and faded, obviously fake." "See how the edge of the birth certificate is? It's fake!" "That name tag doesn't have the usual 'Hello, my name is' on top. Something is fishy here." and finally "It's on TV, it's obviously just special effects."

Bill clinton is a rapist and get defended every goddamn day.

This whole game can be characterized as “loosing by the rules”. If liberals refuse to loose by the rules, why should conservatives?
So you’re sayin that your on the same level as liberals? This is our problem though instead of being better or trying to rise above like either side claims they are everyone seems to just try to fall back down to the lowest level make excuses and then here we are...
Surely if we are to goto wat with Russia, elevating ourselves above using nukes will most certainly ensure our victory.

Seriously dude, you are at the pinnacle of elitism.
What?

Im sure “taking the high road” will be of ample comfort when we are living under a neo-liberal tyrannical state.

That flew over your head? Seriously?
You throwing up nuclear war with Russia when I comment about you being just as bad as the liberals you so despise is just nonsense... it doesn’t even make sense nor does your posturing that a new liberal tyrannical state is otw unless you don’t take the “high road”... as for it flying over my head I think the things you say only make sense in your own mind...
Dont you need to be 13 to post here?
So basically no real reply from you just more nonsense because you can’t seem to come up with anything?
 
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