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Random Politics & Religion #32
By Viciouss 2018-03-13 10:37:34
The only qualification you need is the willingness to put Trump first, the USA second.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-03-13 10:48:15
I think it's interesting how people are only just now noticing problems with the way that government works. It's even more interesting that they assume such problems are unique to Trump.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-03-13 11:04:50
So, what happens if Mueller drags out the investigation till after the mid-terms and releases new information these Republicans don't have if and/or when Dems take more seats, take back the house, etc.
From Trump's point of view, I'd be furious they quit because there's no point to any of them being on the inside, throttling wild ideas and giving a heads up on new information.
If you were Trump why would you moderate a third rate hack video game forum ? If I were Trump, why would I be president?
The same reason people get giant portraits and statues made of themselves, vanity and desire for immortality.
Trump can now one up every other billionaire in the world and his name will forever be in the history books. That's a pretty insane level of accomplishment to achieve.
So, I just woke up and looking at the TV. From what I see, the house Republicans involved in the Russia investigation abandoned said investigation to tell Trump what he wanted to hear, leaving the Democrats involved to do, say, investigate, and release whatever they want.
They closed their investigation because there is still zero evidence of cooperation (collusion isn't even a thing) between the Trump campaign and Russia. Mueller's current investigation has strayed completely off the "Russia cooperation" path and is now just a typical financial crimes investigation.
So, what happens if Mueller drags out the investigation till after the mid-terms and releases new information these Republicans don't have if and/or when Dems take more seats, take back the house, etc.
As I just said the "investigation" is dead on the collusion angle, it's become nothing more then a typical financial crimes investigation. The only reason it's still ongoing is that Muller was charged with the ability to investigate any crime uncovered during the initial investigation. During the course of his investigation for cooperation between candidate Trump and the Russian government he uncovered evidence that select business associates of Trumps might of committed unrelated crimes and investigated those. And while I believe Mueller himself is unbiased and impartial, the dudes a living legend after all, the people working for him aren't. Mueller will turn over and document every rock he comes across, not because someone is telling him too but because that's what he's been tasked with and doesn't want anyone having a legitimate complaint of him being biased or partial.
It's the Dems who want this to go on as long as possible, they are mining for ammunition to use against he Republicans and the 2020 election campaign. It's why they had the FBI spy on the Trump campaign to give advantage to Hillary.
Ultimately this is going to make the Democrats look bad, they were really betting on some sort of super shocking scandal involving Candidate Trump and some sort of illegal activity they could use against him. That hasn't materialized and their motivations became pretty transparent. Fanatics are going to believe what they want to believe.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2018-03-13 11:27:25
So, I just woke up and looking at the TV. From what I see, the house Republicans involved in the Russia investigation abandoned said investigation to tell Trump what he wanted to hear, leaving the Democrats involved to do, say, investigate, and release whatever they want. They closed their investigation because there is still zero evidence of cooperation (collusion isn't even a thing) between the Trump campaign and Russia. Mueller's current investigation has strayed completely off the "Russia cooperation" path and is now just a typical financial crimes investigation. But the investigation was supposed to be about Russian interference, not about collusion.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-03-13 11:35:57
So, I just woke up and looking at the TV. From what I see, the house Republicans involved in the Russia investigation abandoned said investigation to tell Trump what he wanted to hear, leaving the Democrats involved to do, say, investigate, and release whatever they want. They closed their investigation because there is still zero evidence of cooperation (collusion isn't even a thing) between the Trump campaign and Russia. Mueller's current investigation has strayed completely off the "Russia cooperation" path and is now just a typical financial crimes investigation. But the investigation was supposed to be about Russian interference, not about collusion.
Thats finished and done with. Verdict is the attempted and failed having no significant effect.
Again the Russian angle is played out. We know all there is to know and zero evidence if Trump being involved.
By Viciouss 2018-03-13 11:44:58
So, I just woke up and looking at the TV. From what I see, the house Republicans involved in the Russia investigation abandoned said investigation to tell Trump what he wanted to hear, leaving the Democrats involved to do, say, investigate, and release whatever they want. They closed their investigation because there is still zero evidence of cooperation (collusion isn't even a thing) between the Trump campaign and Russia. Mueller's current investigation has strayed completely off the "Russia cooperation" path and is now just a typical financial crimes investigation. But the investigation was supposed to be about Russian interference, not about collusion.
And both the Senate investigation and the Mueller team will continue, the House team went off the rails and their "conclusions" are irrelevant. Every week we get new information about the Russian interference, so don't expect the investigations to end any time soon.
By Viciouss 2018-03-13 11:45:54
Thats finished and done with.
Source ...?
He isn't gonna provide a source because there isn't one, it will just be a lengthy off the rails post.
By Zerowone 2018-03-13 11:48:15
So, what happens if Mueller drags out the investigation till after the mid-terms and releases new information these Republicans don't have if and/or when Dems take more seats, take back the house, etc.
From Trump's point of view, I'd be furious they quit because there's no point to any of them being on the inside, throttling wild ideas and giving a heads up on new information.
It’s not, the HIC is majority Republican and wasn’t going to “find” anyone in their party guilty of wrong doing. It’s also comes off as a “spontaneous” move the night before the special elections in PA where the RNC is spending a lot of money to not lose a seat.
The move is a gamble and has no real impact on Mueller’s investigation. That’s not to say it will be used to drive a narrative that is already being parroted here.
However this whole Tillerson being fired news this morning, is more butter on the popcorn.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2018-03-13 11:53:33
I think it's interesting how people are only just now noticing problems with the way that government works. It's even more interesting that they assume such problems are unique to Trump. It’s not just now happening... it’s just swapped from pubs to Dems... back in the bush era it was the same thing... and during the obama era pubs were always on the offensive...
It’s like the facts I don't like thing... people have been calling Fox News faux news for quite some time before this...
By Zerowone 2018-03-13 11:54:32
Tillerson is out after he condemned the Russian terrorist attack in England yesterday. He's being replaced by Pompeo. Makes one wonder what Putin has on Trump, and confirms that Trump committed treason at Putin's orders.
You forgot Gina Haspel becoming Director if the CIA. That’s totally not going to rustle some Middle Eastern and Saudi jimmies.
By Zerowone 2018-03-13 11:55:10
I think it's interesting how people are only just now noticing problems with the way that government works. It's even more interesting that they assume such problems are unique to Trump. It’s not just now happening... it’s just swapped from pubs to Dems... back in the bush era it was the same thing... and during the obama era pubs were always on the offensive...
It’s like the facts I don't like thing... people have been calling Fox News faux news for quite some time before this...
It’s called projection.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2018-03-13 11:58:45
Rex Tillerson just got fired, lol. He was never qualified but at least he attempted to tell the truth. What qualifies you for this position exactly?
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By Zerowone 2018-03-13 11:59:13
Oh and now Nikolai Glushkov is found dead.
Where’s the kettle salt?
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-03-13 12:02:10
Thats finished and done with.
Source ...?
Every intelligence agency in the US, the results were turned over to the FBI. The FBI has moved into the prosecution stage.
Sorry if you were waiting on a "secret email found where Trump agree's with Putin to hijack election" that was never going to arrive.
At this point anyone who still insists on some secret "collusion" has moved into "government mind control rays" and "another shooter on the grassy knoll" territory.
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By Zerowone 2018-03-13 12:10:02
So in the last 24 hrs...
Tillerson fired, a wanted war criminal in some regions of the world appointed to the head of CIA, Glushkov found dead, an assassination attempt on Palestinian Rami Hamdallah, and the UK demanding Russia own up to poisoning Sergi Skripal.
This week is just getting started...
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By Viciouss 2018-03-13 12:14:50
So in the last 24 hrs...
Tillerson fired, a wanted war criminal in some regions of the world appointed to the head of CIA, Glushkov found dead, an assassination attempt on Palestinian Rami Hamdallah, and the UK demanding Russia own up to poisoning Sergi Skripal.
This week is just getting started...
And there is an election the GOP is desperate to win tonight, outspending the Dems 10 to 1 but still trailing.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-03-13 12:19:28
Again, where's your source stating the Russian part of the investigation is over?
Just google and read the plethora of reports from the CIA / NSA / FBI. The CIA specifically is finished, their results are Russia attempted but was unsuccessful and no no significant impact on the results. This spanned from social media manipulation to attempts to hack voting machines. The FBI recently arrested a bunch of Russian agents who were orchestrating the domestic component of this operation.
but your assumptions are wrong.
Except by your own statements that is what you are waiting on. Your waiting on some sort of "AH HA GOTACHA" moment where the Dems parade out Trump in manacles and install their own leader.
The funny part is you are technically interfering with the 2018 and 2020 US elections. Right here, right now you, a foreign actor, are attempt to subvert and influence American voters.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-03-13 12:24:18
Now guys lets watch the Canadian citizen demand to be handed the CIA's full investigation report on a foreign powers interference in the 2016 US Presidential election. Any other sources must be made by a Democrat approved news source staffed with Democrat reporters and giving the official Democrat approved answer.
Yeah that's how out of touch these guys are, and why trying to appease them is impossible. Just ignore and move on.
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By Viciouss 2018-03-13 12:26:10
Rex Tillerson just got fired, lol. He was never qualified but at least he attempted to tell the truth. What qualifies you for this position exactly?
You need a lot of experience and in depth knowledge of how our gov't works and how foreign gov't's work, Sec. of State is the most difficult Cabinet position and 1 of only 2 that really matter. Rex Tillerson didn't have any qualifications for it, his ouster has been coming for a while now, surprised it took this long, and really surprised Trump pulled the trigger on the day of an election.
By Viciouss 2018-03-13 12:35:26
I think HR Mcmaster is gonna be right behind him, he is qualified for his position, but he hasn't put Trump before the country.
By Zerowone 2018-03-13 12:36:10
So in the last 24 hrs...
Tillerson fired, a wanted war criminal in some regions of the world appointed to the head of CIA, Glushkov found dead, an assassination attempt on Palestinian Rami Hamdallah, and the UK demanding Russia own up to poisoning Sergi Skripal.
This week is just getting started...
And there is an election the GOP is desperate to win tonight, outspending the Dems 10 to 1 but still trailing.
A district that may or may not exist in the near future due to being a creation of creative gerrymandering.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2018-03-13 12:42:59
Rex Tillerson just got fired, lol. He was never qualified but at least he attempted to tell the truth. What qualifies you for this position exactly?
You need a lot of experience and in depth knowledge of how our gov't works and how foreign gov't's work, Sec. of State is the most difficult Cabinet position and 1 of only 2 that really matter. Rex Tillerson didn't have any qualifications for it, his ouster has been coming for a while now, surprised it took this long, and really surprised Trump pulled the trigger on the day of an election. He qualifies for both of those actually... Tillerson ran a company that is a major global corporate player that has to work with foreign governments to be successful which requires a knowledge of how they operate as well as the way things work in the US and just him being a citizen as well... not only that but he runs a company with a large number of employees rivaling or exceeding that of the state department... if you’re saying that you have to be in government to be qualified to run things then I’ll have to disagree with you completely... I’m personally against lifelong government employees...
My personal concern had to do with him was my concern with a few others in trumps campaign who I feared might be there to benefit themselves and their corporate concerns over the nation...
At some point you have to ask yourself do you dislike this guy because he’s unqualified or doing things incorrectly or is it because he got his job from trump... can you tell me what actions you disagree with that he’s taken since he’s been in office?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-03-13 12:52:21
So in the last 24 hrs...
Tillerson fired, a wanted war criminal in some regions of the world appointed to the head of CIA, Glushkov found dead, an assassination attempt on Palestinian Rami Hamdallah, and the UK demanding Russia own up to poisoning Sergi Skripal.
This week is just getting started...
And there is an election the GOP is desperate to win tonight, outspending the Dems 10 to 1 but still trailing.
That's a first. Usually it's the Dems going nuts on the spending and still losing.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-03-13 12:54:50
At some point you have to ask yourself do you dislike this guy because he’s unqualified or doing things incorrectly or is it because he got his job from trump... can you tell me what actions you disagree with that he’s taken since he’s been in office?
Who are you and what have you done with the old Flavin?
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It's like the last one just kept going and going and going and now it's dead! \o/
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