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By Viciouss 2018-02-02 21:21:00
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Yep fruits of a poisoned tree. Also explains why the Democrats with their FBI holdovers where trying to block as much of this as possible, and afterward screamed it wasn't all of it.

It's like Zero demanding we don't release a 100 page report, so instead we release a 10 page report and him then saying it's not valid because the other 90 page's aren't released, after he demanded they not be.

TDS reaching pandemic levels, they gonna need to establish emergency aid stations around all major cities to handle the patents.

There were plans to release a full report of the investigation? I haven't seen anything about that. All I've found was the vote to release Nunes memo which when reviewed by the Dems & FBI said while there were no lies it was misleading because key information was omitted.

No, as far as we know, there is no report, nor was there any "fight" to stop the classified intel from being released, as that was never even discussed. We know this because if there was a fight about it, if the Dems had been fighting "tooth and nail" to stop it, because it hasn't been released, that would imply the Dems won that fight. So yeah, after a year of Nunes not being involved in the investigation, we got a 3 page + 1 paragraph memo that has no impact on anything, and can't even be verified. Biggest scandal ever.
 
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Comment: Let's not fantasize about Nausi committing suicide.
 
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By Phoenix.Xantavia 2018-02-03 02:41:57
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Dude he's on record talking to the FBI agents saying exactly that he was biased. On recordings during the interview.
You wonder if maybe that is the effect and not the cause? I find it more likely that after assembling the information in the dossier, he thought "Holy crap, this guy should NOT be president".
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-02-03 04:56:45
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Phoenix.Xantavia said: »
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Dude he's on record talking to the FBI agents saying exactly that he was biased. On recordings during the interview.
You wonder if maybe that is the effect and not the cause? I find it more likely that after assembling the information in the dossier, he thought "Holy crap, this guy should NOT be president".

That's assuming he was stupid enough to believe his own dossier.
 
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By fonewear 2018-02-03 08:10:18
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It's fun watching the Trumpers on here squirm knowing their orange idiot may soon be behind bars where he belongs, purely on his own doing (Picking Page, Manafort, Flynn, and Papadopoulos, for examples).

You probably should stick to the anime stuff. Cause you trying to put together a coherent thought is a joke.
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-02-03 08:51:38
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It's fun watching the Trumpers on here squirm knowing their orange idiot may soon be behind bars where he belongs, purely on his own doing (Picking Page, Manafort, Flynn, and Papadopoulos, for examples).
How it will happen if it happens:

Trump gets impeached and charged.
Pence is sworn in.
U.S. vs Donald J. Trump is put off for 6-8 months.
Trump is sentenced after a lengthy court battle.
Pence, probably near the end of his presidency, gives Trump a presidential pardon.
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-02-03 08:53:22
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Basically, I assure you, Trump himself won't serve a minute behind bars.
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-02-03 09:08:25
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Candlejack said: »
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Candlejack said: »
It's fun watching the Trumpers on here squirm knowing their orange idiot may soon be behind bars where he belongs, purely on his own doing (Picking Page, Manafort, Flynn, and Papadopoulos, for examples).
How it will happen if it happens:

Trump gets impeached and charged.
Pence is sworn in.
U.S. vs Donald J. Trump is put off for 6-8 months.
Trump is sentenced after a lengthy court battle.
Pence, probably near the end of his presidency, gives Trump a presidential pardon.
In which case congress would need to step in and block Pence from being able to pardon Trump, and by then, an almost completely democrat congress, well, one should expect exactly that to happen. Do the math, Trump has made a lot of enemies who'd love to see him either strung up by the neck or dying behind bars.
I don't really think they can block a President from pardoning.
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By Viciouss 2018-02-03 09:08:46
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One day after the biggest scandal of our lives ended as quickly as it began, we prepare for the worst Super Bowl of our lives. More beer!
 
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-02-03 09:14:50
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Also, let's not fantasize about other posters committing suicide over anything. If you hate someone to the point you think about them dying, you should probably block them or request a section ban and turn off P&R in your account options. >.>
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-02-03 09:18:22
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Candlejack said: »
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It's fun watching the Trumpers on here squirm knowing their orange idiot may soon be behind bars where he belongs, purely on his own doing (Picking Page, Manafort, Flynn, and Papadopoulos, for examples).
How it will happen if it happens:

Trump gets impeached and charged.
Pence is sworn in.
U.S. vs Donald J. Trump is put off for 6-8 months.
Trump is sentenced after a lengthy court battle.
Pence, probably near the end of his presidency, gives Trump a presidential pardon.
In which case congress would need to step in and block Pence from being able to pardon Trump, and by then, an almost completely democrat congress, well, one should expect exactly that to happen. Do the math, Trump has made a lot of enemies who'd love to see him either strung up by the neck or dying behind bars.
I don't really think they can block a President from pardoning.
They actually could. One of the Russian agents caught up in the Mueller mess is Manafort. The question Mueller needs to ask is what connects Manafort to Pence and the puzzle in that instance falls into place nicely.
I think there's something in place that simply removes the entire cabinet from power, but I'm not 100% sure. I'm not aware of any president actually being removed from office. Nixon resigned when he saw that he was going to be removed.
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-02-03 09:20:06
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Basically, I don't know what happens if the entire cabinet is removed; I assume there'd be a President PT appointed and a special election would start. I really don't know.
 
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-02-03 09:26:05
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I could actually see Trump going like Nixon; he wouldn't stand for being booted out, he'd leave of his own accord. The only way he wouldn't is if he was unable to see it coming.
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-02-03 09:27:25
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Oh and on pardoning, Ford kinda set a precedent of pardoning an impeached predecessor.
 
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2018-02-03 09:31:25
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Candlejack said: »
If the whole cabinet gets removed, as it includes the majority speakers for both chambers of congress, whoever ran and lost against them in the prior elections would be installed automatically by the Electoral College. Meaning we'd get Hillary and Tim Kaine as president and vice-president respectively, and the minority leaders in both chambers take over the majority speaker posts. Of course, this is considering the COG (Continuance Of Governance) plan is not being followed. COG is only used in the event of a major terrorist attack or nuclear war and places one randomly selected "president pro-tempor"/"designated survivor" from the cabinet in an undisclosed secure location. Since a full cabinet removal would not trigger COG since the war/terror attack conditions aren't met, it'd have to be that way.

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By Anna Ruthven 2018-02-03 09:33:05
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Candlejack said: »
If the whole cabinet gets removed, as it includes the majority speakers for both chambers of congress, whoever ran and lost against them in the prior elections would be installed automatically by the Electoral College. Meaning we'd get Hillary and Tim Kaine as president and vice-president respectively, and the minority leaders in both chambers take over the majority speaker posts. Of course, this is considering the COG (Continuance Of Governance) plan is not being followed. COG is only used in the event of a major terrorist attack or nuclear war and places one randomly selected "president pro-tempor"/"designated survivor" from the cabinet in an undisclosed secure location. Since a full cabinet removal would not trigger COG since the war/terror attack conditions aren't met, it'd have to be that way.
That would probably cause more of a crisis.
 
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By Zerowone 2018-02-03 10:59:28
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Candlejack said: »
If the whole cabinet gets removed, as it includes the majority speakers for both chambers of congress, whoever ran and lost against them in the prior elections would be installed automatically by the Electoral College. Meaning we'd get Hillary and Tim Kaine as president and vice-president respectively, and the minority leaders in both chambers take over the majority speaker posts. Of course, this is considering the COG (Continuance Of Governance) plan is not being followed. COG is only used in the event of a major terrorist attack or nuclear war and places one randomly selected "president pro-tempor"/"designated survivor" from the cabinet in an undisclosed secure location. Since a full cabinet removal would not trigger COG since the war/terror attack conditions aren't met, it'd have to be that way.

This wouldn’t be how it plays out. There are 2 posts after the VP that are in the line of succession before cabinet members.

The Speaker of the House of Representatives: Paul Ryan
President Pro Tempore of the Senate: Orin Hatch.

The scenario your envisioning which has been floated around for over a year now, would give us a President Orin Hatch.
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-02-03 11:03:03
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If it comes out that Trump didn't have an affair with Hope Hicks, I'll actually be disappointed.
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By Anna Ruthven 2018-02-03 11:03:31
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I ship Donald Trump x Hope Hicks.
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By fonewear 2018-02-03 11:22:50
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Candlejack said: »
If the whole cabinet gets removed, as it includes the majority speakers for both chambers of congress, whoever ran and lost against them in the prior elections would be installed automatically by the Electoral College. Meaning we'd get Hillary and Tim Kaine as president and vice-president respectively, and the minority leaders in both chambers take over the majority speaker posts. Of course, this is considering the COG (Continuance Of Governance) plan is not being followed. COG is only used in the event of a major terrorist attack or nuclear war and places one randomly selected "president pro-tempor"/"designated survivor" from the cabinet in an undisclosed secure location. Since a full cabinet removal would not trigger COG since the war/terror attack conditions aren't met, it'd have to be that way.

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By fonewear 2018-02-03 11:23:54
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The sad part is some people on here that are so crazy they don't realize how crazy they actually are...Like that is a level of crazy that the psychiatrist would be like *** it. Lock this sum *** up !
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By fonewear 2018-02-03 11:26:12
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I accept CJ to be this guy:

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