Dev Tracker - Discussion

Ah, I thought it might be referring to that. It feels out of place to me. I guess if it helps someone, maybe include a hotlink to the Volte armor page on BGWiki?

FWIW... when you do an aoe Phy WS(eg shockwave) with the ampulla it will consume 1k gil per mob hit

Yep this is because multi-attack is calculated for each target separately. This is very visible on MNK spinning attack when you do it with some QA/TA/DA, some targets get hit for 5k, some 10k, some 15k and some 20k.

The Hoxne Ampulla was the perfect candidate for a long, hard, involved quest line à la Black Belt. Instead it's a random roll. Such a missed opportunity.

More money in gamba

For SE the ampula is a gimmick, a throw away gag item that spends gil in exchange for dmg ala gil toss.

To the XI community it's a required DD piece and if you don't spend 2m gil/hour to increase your DPS, you're a gimp.

Be happy they haven't put it as 1st place bonanza reward exclusive. I am.

When I started reading that, I was expecting to finish with "it was Tuesday"

So I must fix this.



To the XI community, the ampulla is a required DD piece and if you dont spend 2m gil/hour to increase your dps you're a gimp

For SE, it was Tuesday

Noone actually thinks it's a required piece of gear....but the level of consistency it can give MNK WSes is sure something.

My sweet summer child.

Ampulla is pretty amazing. It's so strong.

But me personally, I'm going to have to be selective when using it going forward. While it's only a couple hundred k on RDM in a Sortie run, it was over 1m for an Apollyon climb on DRG.

I use it on Sheol C as WAR for an extra STP build. It helps when I find buffs are not great or if other party members appear to be distracted or struggling a bit. I can do about 7-8M damage anyway, but Sheol C rewards gil, which helps to offset the cost.

But, my two cents, ever job wins with Hoxne Ampullah, but I feel like MNK and DRG are the clear winners (have the most to gain).

It ate all my gain xp gil and I don't think I'm okay with that.

I got one from Trove and maybe naive but I sold it. I'm kinda expecting it not to be 300+M forever like O-sash.

It probably will stay high for a long time. I also expect an AMAN trove campaign very soon, to encourage more in circulation. But aren't the new sets sellable? I feel like after next month when the new materials start getting into circulation (I'm assuming this is how it works, so correct me if I'm wrong), people will be spending more of their money towards those items/crafter's fees. So I could see people wanting to hold onto their cash for a bit and spend towards the sets soon and not burn through it with Hoxne Ampulla. Certainly something to watch the next few months.

I'm a filthy casual when it comes to endgame so I probably wouldn't utilize it fully but I'll probably get it again (either from trove or pony up the gil).

I wasn't aware the new sets could be AH'd but if that's true, that'll be interesting to see.

The new sets seem to be a buyable crafted component that has to be uncursed using a buyable race shard and one or more alabaster/murky matter(s).

Maybe I'm reading it wrong and didn't look at the notes closer, but when I look at the finished item I see

But one of the materials required to forge the new piece

So I'm assuming you can trade/sell the mats, which is what I meant.

it's exactly the same as every other cursed gear.

You can buy mats. You craft it cursed. You can sell it. You uncurse it, it becomes R/E

Just there doesn't exist abjurations so you don't know exactly how the uncurse happens.

well, if you're not lucky enough to get it from trove, & you dont buy/bot your gil, it is a bit of a quest to get 300-400M

Some of the crafting mats are showing up on vslefor from the gob. We have a few cursed nq on the ah as well. Haven't seen any prices yet for either but it is only a matter of time.

I think you're confusing "capping gil" with assets, because you still have to convert that plasm to materials and then sell the mats for gil. On top of that, I fail to understand why you singled out those two campaigns:
Delve campaign doubles plasm (and more airlixirs, which are pennies). I'm gonna focus on Delve II since it rewards more plasm than Delve 1. Plasm I will value at the avg cost of the most 3 expensive synth mats, as the values may fluctuate depending on supply and demand, which seems to be around 600k (Asura prices). One synth mat is 300k plasm from the taru, so 1 plasm = 2 gil.

Your rewards without campaign:
180k gil from ~90k plasm
Yorc: 500k in mats
Marj: 1m in mats
Kami: 2 of the following: 650k mat, 500k mat, 90k mat

With Campaign:
360k gil from ~180k plasm
Yorc: 500k in mats
Marj: 1m in mats
Kami: 2 of the following: 650k mat, 500k mat, 90k mat


How long does it take a single boxer to run through delve? Takes me about 10 minutes, but thats with my own chars, not trust healers. Lets assume 20 minutes, including travel to get a new KI, its also a very easy number to work with for this. I'm gonna go with Marjami since the two drops are consistent, gil per hour
Without campaign: (180k from plasm + 1 mil in mats) * 3 runs per hour = 3,540,000 gil/hr
With campaign: (360k from plasm + 1 mil in mats) * 3 runs per hour = 4,080,000 gil/hr
You're looking at an extra 500k/hr from the campaign


Wait all this is moot, since Delve still has the 3 player minimum, does it not???

I swear people don't read the update notes.

General idea isn't exact

It might be 1 shard 1 cursed 1 matter or it might be 20 matters or 200 shards or both matters

And the unknown units cost, if there is one

I mean, between the patch notes and the actual items it seems pretty hard to misunderstand.

1. Get shards and craft materials from boxes.

2. Trade shard(s) for the armor type you want and matter to the Furnace to get an EX Jewel.

3. Trade Jewel and cursed item to Furnace to get the actual item.

There's probably a unit cost for each step, and we don't know what the augment costs will be yet(but it's probably the same as the accessories).

If I were to guess, finishing wave 1 adds shards to the chests, wave 2 crafting materials, and wave 3 the omega/ultima parts. Maybe drop rates similar to matter?

Notes make it sound like you need shard + matter for each augment level, so could potentially need 30 shards for each HQ2 piece...

Yep. Delve, Incursion, Dyna-D (regular, not new instance) still all have 3-player minimum.