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 Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-10-28 17:54:38
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Meeble said: »
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I can't even begin to imagine anyone that needs to solo dyna-d being able to do it.

Every trust tank will get one shot. Aggro 1 statue, have no crowd control, you instantly lose. That means you have to use AATT or be the tank. Then survive 4 mobs and a statue with a trust healer.

I think you're overselling the difficulty a bit. Back when I was a semi-scrub returnee, I used to enter with two others and we'd split up and make solo trust parties to farm(poorly). Job mastered with decent gear for that era, but pre ML, no REMAS, no Naegling, Malignance, Ody gear or even Unity augments.

Fresh chars in 117 would have issues, and it's only really viable for jobs that can melee well with self/trust buffs; You need to be careful, and wipes will happen, but it's not as impossible as you're making it out to be.

If you teamed up with 15 trusts and 3 humans to attack one statue thats 3 humans vs 5 mobs.

That's significantly different than 1 player vs 5 mobs.

And like I said, it's not impossible. It would just be miserable. You wiped. Multiple times.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-10-28 18:21:02
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but it's not as impossible as you're making it out to be.
Reminder that this is the guy who literally wiped to the first mob he saw in Sheol A.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-10-28 20:48:13
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Meeble said: »
but it's not as impossible as you're making it out to be.
Reminder that this is the guy who literally wiped to the first mob he saw in Sheol A.

Meanwhile...

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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-10-28 20:50:06
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Yall dont comprehend ***. For the 10th time. Illiteracy +1

A character that existed for 10 hours is not the *** same as a character with MM50.

I went in A to show how hard mobs hit trusts with a brand new character. Just to prove the point. They have too much attack. They hit valaineral kupipi kuro and trion for 800+

A trust tank can't hold 800 damage enmity and kupipi doesn't have enough hp to survive one attack.

Every mob has too much attack. Thats why every single piece of new gear has DT on it. And why trusts are getting overhauled.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-10-28 20:55:00
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-10-28 21:02:29
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Yall dont comprehend ***. For the 10th time.

A character that existed for 10 hours is not the *** same as a character with MM50.

I went in A to show how hard mobs hit trusts with a brand new character. Just to prove the point. They have too much attack. They hit valaineral kupipi kuro and trion for 800+

A trust tank can't hold 800 damage enmity and kupipi doesn't have enough hp to survive one attack.

Every mob has too much attack. Thats why every single piece of new gear has DT on it. And why trusts are getting overhauled.

How about MM2?

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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-10-28 21:07:25
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It would've been nice to have a crawler as the first mobs, but I got dhalmals

I would've looked for lesser mobs instead of being honest had I known you're all going to act stupid as *** at the time.

Valaineral survived 36 seconds while kupipi did who knows what.


Full health to dead in 10 seconds. I guess I should've bought a cure scroll for warrior so I could save him.


If I ever go again ill look for scorpions or manticores so he can get one shot instead of picking the first mobs.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-10-28 21:12:51
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Guy said "I got Dhalmels" like were supposed to feel bad he got such an easy opening target.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2025-10-28 22:08:36
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Unless you're an RMT with virtually no gear, soloing Dyna-D to unlock +3s wouldn't be that difficult... unless you're the worst puller in the history of the game.

Anyone doing this wouldn't be a returnee with minimal gear. It would be veterans gearing up a new job with enough to make it work. I look forward to doing this on BST and DNC, two jobs I geared but didn't get around to using in Dyna-D.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-10-28 22:23:11
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In Dynamis Bastok you need to fight 2 statues to get to the W1 boss. For Windurst it's 3. For sandy it's 1. For Jeuno it's 2.

There are no links unless you're an idiot.

I'm sure it's possible to die doing this, but if you die because your gear sucks & you don't know how to play the game...get better gear and learn how to play the game.

Or...like I say in every thread on this website. Play the MMORPG with another human being. Maybe even more than 1.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-10-28 22:35:52
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Killing the tombstone boss is definitely an impossibility. Any stomp is going to one shot most trust.

And it has what, -75% pdt

Just maybe if you use a perfect comp with selhteus and a way to give him aoe defense food and turn while he gets enough tp to aoe heal again after every stomp.

....Maybe rdm/nin with 1D dagger enspells so it's not "completely" impossible.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-10-28 22:44:04
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1-No it wont, though it usually does them back to back to back to back, which will likely kill the trusts at that point, but thats not one shot.
2-If only SE made it so you can get unlock from killing 100 wave 1 fodder. Oh
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2025-10-28 22:52:22
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Two methods to unlock +3.

Method 1: Defeat the mid-boss.

Method 2: Defeat 100 squadron enemies in a specific zone to unlock that area's corresponding Relic +3 slot for a specific job.

Basically enter and farm. When SE originally introduced method 2 in 2021, it was seen as a little ridiculous. With power creep however, it should be manageable. I don't believe you need to kill 100 in a single run for it to count.

What I am unsure of is whether you get the body unlock if you get the rest of the set with method 2. BGwiki suggests that this is not the case.
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By Kaffy 2025-10-28 23:02:42
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i tried 3box dyna d on week-old 99s not long ago and it was quite doable, but things can go south very, very quickly. casters that don't get tagged by uriel blade, sleepgas, any number of situations arise that require quick thinking and practice to overcome.

without a doubt, the hardest pull is the very first one. real players can fully buff before ever engaging, trusts cannot.
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By Leviathan.Webjester 2025-10-28 23:23:12
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Cerberus.Kylos said: »
What I am unsure of is whether you get the body unlock if you get the rest of the set with method 2. BGwiki suggests that this is not the case.

Having received the Job shard KI on the 100th kill in the last needed zone for numerous jobs, I'd say it's probably a safe bet that just killing 100 mobs in each zone is sufficient to unlock the body.
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