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By K123 2025-10-04 11:04:05
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Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
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Making non-idris practically useless and unwanted is a major *** up of SE though. BRD isn't in much of a better position, but it easier to make than Idris without time gates.

Respectfully disagree. GEO can literally just swing by the AH and drop ~40mil on a +2 neck and already have the second best GEO buffs possible in the game. Even if that's not an Idris, it's absolutely functional and would be a nice addition to a lot of setups, and is a fantastic holdover buff-wise until finishing an Idris (and retains use after that, the luopon absorb damage effect is so good).

Compare that to telling a BRD they need to go make four REMAs to join content, and tell me again that GEO's the buff job in a weird position.
There isn't a 6 month cockblock to RMEA BRD though. If you can make gil you can do Marsysas for 25M, Ghorn for 60m(not sure on price now) and even pay people to do all daurdabla items for you (expensive these days). Mythic is a bigger task.

The difference between +2 neck and Idris is bigger than not having carn.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-10-04 11:19:14
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K123 said: »
If you can make gil you can do Marsysas for 25M

A brand new player picking up a spare 25 mil and finishing RoV and getting 50k beads isnt exactly a couple week task.

Unless these qualms arent about "restrictions a brand new player will face" and its more about "getting my replacement bardbot that got banned up to speed asap".
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-10-04 12:15:34
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New doesn't mean stupid, low on time, or unmotivated. Picture someone who is coming over from FF14 with the intent of learning the MMO and getting their ***in order asap. They can absolutely complete a mythic, an aeonic, and general gearing in 3-4 months even without exorbitant playtime. I don't really see the point of putting such a long time gate on Idris/Epeolatry.

BRD isn't easier to make than GEO, but it is definitely much faster, whether you're a new player or starting a new mule. Same goes for PLD vs RUN, and RUN is in a pretty poor spot on the whole atm.
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By K123 2025-10-04 14:13:42
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
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If you can make gil you can do Marsysas for 25M

A brand new player picking up a spare 25 mil and finishing RoV and getting 50k beads isnt exactly a couple week task.

Unless these qualms arent about "restrictions a brand new player will face" and its more about "getting my replacement bardbot that got banned up to speed asap".
Not really talking about new. You've added that context. Reality more often than not we are talking about a 2nd (3rd/4th etc.) char. There aren't any real "new players" in digits above the 10s.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-10-04 14:43:47
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I mean, by your own admission of "new players", most people dont make "new" characters. They inherit characters from friends who've quit so these wait times tied to character creation are irrelevant. The new characters are LM-17 replacements. I dont really care for making life better for idiots who keep getting banned because running at %800 and jumping around the map like a chess piece is they only way they can enjoy the game.
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