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 Asura.Iamaman
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By Asura.Iamaman 2025-09-27 08:44:21
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LightningHelix said: »
also cutting 30k Alexandrite down to 15k and 100k Ichor down to 50k is not meaningfully changing the amount of different content you do, just halving a 20 year old hellgrind (not literally 20 years old. only 18 or whatever.) and letting you get to the other content parts of it sooner

I still wonder what they think players are doing to obtain this quantity of Alex. Forget the cost and time burning old content, just trading that quantity is insanely irritating. Then you have to get Beitetsu, do trials, etc.

I've always wished they would give players a reasonable way to earn a Cats Eye or something doing current content. Trade x segments/rp, y galli, whatever - something other than what we have to do now, which is either buy all of it or grind old *** content forever.
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By Dodik 2025-09-27 08:45:19
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Asura.Iamaman said: »
I am a broken record with this, but some seem to forget that this is only really possible if you have a consistent group of static players going. That's the real problem with modern, current content. It's not about you, the player, as much as it is you and 5 others.

I would love someone to ask Fujito-san face-to-face - "You said getting a prime weapon is possible solo. What setup have you used to beat Aminon solo to be able to make that claim."

SE talks a lot of ***and doesn't get called on it. I remember the ***show in the official JP forums when HQ Aminon was first released. Yet not a single person has called out that, even if you could somehow solo 7.5m muffins in a single human life time, how the *** are you beating Aminon solo. Or any boss really.
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By Asura.Iamaman 2025-09-27 08:48:40
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Dodik said: »
Asura.Iamaman said: »
I am a broken record with this, but some seem to forget that this is only really possible if you have a consistent group of static players going. That's the real problem with modern, current content. It's not about you, the player, as much as it is you and 5 others.

I would love someone to ask Fujito-san face-to-face - "You said getting a prime weapon is possible solo. What setup have you used to beat Aminon solo to be able to make that claim."

SE talks a lot of ***and doesn't get called on it. I remember the ***show in the official JP forums when HQ Aminon was first released. Yet not a single person has called out that, even if you could somehow solo 7.5m muffins in a single human life time, how the *** are you beating Aminon solo. Or any boss really.

Oh keep in mind he said that BEFORE they nerfed the basement bosses, fully aware that they were all to be in that enraged mode after stage 4.

That's what I keep coming back to with SE and their plan for XI. That was their original vision for Primes, which they doubled down on before backing off. It's evidence of just how out of touch they are.

I'm actually not opposed to the difficulty spike in the basement they had planned, IMO the *** part was the claim above and that the rewards were the same. If they had sped up the galli gains for stage 5 by beating the harder bosses, I'd be 100% ok with that, but keeping them the same, claiming it can be done solo, and then doubling down on it is just lol
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By Kaffy 2025-09-27 09:01:47
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Asura.Iamaman said: »
I still wonder what they think players are doing to obtain this quantity of Alex. Forget the cost and time burning old content, just trading that quantity is insanely irritating. Then you have to get Beitetsu, do trials, etc.

I've always wished they would give players a reasonable way to earn a Cats Eye or something doing current content. Trade x segments/rp, y galli, whatever - something other than what we have to do now, which is either buy all of it or grind old *** content forever.

ambu is the intended solution to RMEA currencies, which is mostly fine, enough to make good progress or sell some but not instantly finish a weapon every month. the problem is they conveniently turn an eye from the 24/7 salvage bots that supply enough alex to finish weapons instantly on demand. would take all of 5 minutes looking at logs to see that 99% of salvage participation is a few bots, with the rest being real people doing trials and not farming alex themselves.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-09-27 09:03:38
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They have no reason to ever do that

Lose subscribers. cause other players to be mad about no alex flow.

Whats the upside; there isn't one
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By Dodik 2025-09-27 09:05:04
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I'm sure they would just come back and say "You can get a stage 3 and stage 4 prime solo. Fully completing a prime requires beating bosses which is a team effort." or some BS like that.

Like a politician hiding behind semantics to excuse lying through their teeth.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-09-27 10:08:46
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Dodik said: »
I would love someone to ask Fujito-san face-to-face - "You said getting a prime weapon is possible solo. What setup have you used to beat Aminon solo to be able to make that claim."

Idk how accurate this translation is but the quote isn't remotely what you said.

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Fujito: Yes, it will be. We have tried to make it so that solo players can work hard to strengthen the game in line with their current style of play. However, the final stage may be a little tougher.
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By Dodik 2025-09-27 10:24:26
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What was the question exactly. Just showing an answer with no context is not helpful.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-09-27 10:43:16
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It seems like there's plenty to sink your teeth into (chewy) for the progression process.
From here.
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By Dodik 2025-09-27 10:47:48
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--It seems like there's plenty to sink your teeth into (chewy) for the progression process.
Fujito: Yes, you're right. We've made it so that you can chip away at it bit by bit even as a solo player. However, the final stage might be a bit tough. However, once you've upgraded the weapon to its final stage, you'll get the final 'glow'.

Cool so a stage 4, 3.5m muffins, is "soloable" right?

Got it.

He's right, it is.

He didn't say how long it would take or whether it's possible to solo a stage 4 within a human life time.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-09-27 10:49:15
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He never did state timeframes, he's full of ***but didn't lie

The full context being; you can "work on it" solo. Not necessarily "complete it".

And who knows, if they overpower trusts enough (a lot) maybe you can solo hard aminon. 10 years from now we'll have tertiary jobs and be igarbage 199.
3k meva and 10k hp and break the 100k damage cap with no buffs.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-09-27 10:50:58
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Technically, no lies were told and everything there is right.

You can "chip away at it bit by bit even as a solo player", and "the final stage might be a bit tough" if you're unable to find friends (as most people here seem to be incapable of).


So he's right, and someone has previously said
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technically is the best kind of being right.
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By Asura.Iamaman 2025-09-27 11:06:14
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Weren't there several interviews on the subject?

I seem to recall one where he said some fast groups would finish within six months, but more directly stated they could be soloed. So a little different than the one above. It happened after they first teased them but before phase 3 was actually added.

It's hard to keep track of the interviews and it gets muddy over time as people add their own interpretations/translations, but I was pretty certain there was another discussion where he said they were entirely soloable. Maybe I'm wrong or misread it.
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By Dodik 2025-09-27 11:14:17
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That's what I remember also, though also don't give enough *** to go look for it.

SE's imagination of what is reasonable to expect of players to do and what players are actually willing to do are wildly different.
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By Seun 2025-09-27 11:16:31
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Asura.Iamaman said: »
I seem to recall one where he said some fast groups would finish within six months, but more directly stated they could be soloed.

No, that is someone's poor comprehension or a poorly worded(possibly translation) question. Also failure to count.


The interviewer asked if people would be able to finish in 6 months. Fujito said 'a few people may finish by the end of the year'. May through December is 8 months kids.
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By Nariont 2025-09-27 11:25:48
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Asura.Iamaman said: »
I still wonder what they think players are doing to obtain this quantity of Alex. Forget the cost and time burning old content, just trading that quantity is insanely irritating. Then you have to get Beitetsu, do trials, etc.

Same as previous players do it; you'd trade as you go. If there's something id like SE to add it'd be a currency moogle similar to the crystal moogle who you can store all the rema currency into, slap it into the mog garden. We have currency npcs for just about everything else so i dont see why this would be any different.

As for changing the amounts, in a healthier game with content coming in regularly and a stronger player base they might look to being more lenient on older stuff, but as is it's better long term to keep the limited player base on the treadmill as long as possible, as once they run out of stuff to do, they're likely not gonna be back for some time as nothing new is really coming out, for example within the past yr i think we've only had besieged additions and now limbus, and that'll likely be the same by the end of this yr with limbus maybe being partially done and besieged maybe being complete.

So keep them stuck on older stuff for as long as possible, cause once they're done, they're done, there's also that SE doesnt seem to like touching the legacy stuff too much, whether that be lack of know-how or respecting older stuff, or what have you.
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