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We live in a world of computers? Which btw measure everything in seconds (much finer precision than that actually)

If you actually understand how computers keep time (google "epoch time") you can realize the Y2k was a fallacious problem and it actually hasn't happened yet.

Anyways this should solve everyone's problem:

Not that I expect SE to do that, but its a few lines of code.

my mistake, poor choice of words. precision is a good thing, but not converting it to a more user friendly format for display makes little sense.

Their normal menu system takes a parameter and subs it into a set of tokens, the server doesn't send you the full string it's going to display. In this case, the message they chose is:


So, they have one token that subs in the key item, one that subs in the number of seconds, and one that subs in the optional s for multiple seconds. The menu event system does not have a way to display fully dynamic text, as is. So, while they should probably have dealt with that at some point, implementing a more flexible display is still annoying.

They'd likely have to add 3 message ids for the different format, change the way the packet is sent for each, and do the calculations on the server end to determine which packet is sent, which order the parameters go in, and what values each param is. It's not rocket science, but it is considerably more annoying than what Brimstone posted.

Of course, this is assuming their tooling doesn't tie the message id to the menu event, and implementing it is as simple as writing the if-elseif-else logic and adding more dat entries. If it's integrated further up, it would start to border on spaghetti code to do it at all.

TIL it's Square Enix not Spagh Etti

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There are already systems in place that give exact time until event availability, instead of telling you when stuff will be available in hours/minutes/seconds. Thats just one example I was able to find in my logs.

The answer to that is almost certainly "it is".

I'm sure its not written in python either, but also if windower can inject lots of log messages via lua plugins, not exactly rocket science for SE to have some client side way to pretty print messages from the server. Not that I want to blame the guy now trying to fix a problem invented by someone else years ago...

Though not availability, I think mog locker is broken down the same way too.

Inb4 TOAU is only time they did this

Obligatory XKCD

Someone that has worked with date time would first ask "Which timezones" then convert both to UTC before subtracting them, surely.

And they don't have to do any of that, just take seconds / 3600 and display it as hours with a x.y precision, meaning one decimal point. Still one value to display.

Yall are triggering my UX meeting 'nam flashback ptsd to multi-hour long meetings arguing about this exact kinda stuff.

I do admit, displaying the remaining time as seconds is by far the *worst* way to choose and smells borderline intentional as malicious compliance *or* as a joke to troll us.

Until you realize they could have given us all of the times in Vana'diel and not earth...

***, that's pretty good tho, lol

Here
https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/58594/readable-make-npcs-readable-again/

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