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By Ovalidal 2025-05-30 21:40:23
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Asura.Disclai said: »
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Interviewer: One of the most prominent responses in both Japan and overseas was the request for the addition of new stories and quests. What do you think about this?

Fujito: I understand that the power of "stories" is very large.  If we could, we would like to visit Tavnazia itself and the Orc Empire in the north... but to be honest, it is difficult in many ways.  As I mentioned earlier, there are ways to develop new stories outside of games, such as books and video works, so considering the current situation, I think it would be realistic to develop a new story in that direction.

Fujito, please...

It's no secret that I love ffxi's story content, but I recognize how much of an opportunity cost a new mini expansion would be. If they are dedicated several years of work on new content, it wouldn't make sense to make that content 1-time quests that reward some need accessories.

That having been said, we've heard this aversion to new stories before... If and when FFXI' budget gets a bump and they are still singing the same tune, that would be more cause for concern.
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-05-31 00:32:04
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Taint said: »
They spent all those resources on Volume2 Ambu that nobody does. (that I know of)

They could easily bump those fights up in difficulty and have a ton of new Ambu content for +3. I remember when people thought they would never do +2.

I think it's that they are spacing out the gear after all. Next is AF / Relic upgrades to be more in line with existing Odysea / Emby +3. I think maybe next year we might see Ambu +3 gear to be slightly under them.

Garfield said: »
I think reading the interview questions might help

Woah there, that's asking too much. Gotta keep expectations manageable.
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By Godfry 2025-05-31 00:42:25
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Ovalidal said: »
That having been said, we've heard this aversion to new stories before... If and when FFXI' budget gets a bump and they are still singing the same tune, that would be more cause for concern.

Honestly. VR story was so bad I wish they will just use resources to make fun content.

Asura.Saevel said: »
Woah there, that's asking too much. Gotta keep expectations manageable.
Thus spake Saevel, the idiot sandwich.
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By Dodik 2025-05-31 01:27:49
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Asura.Sensarity said: »
Asura.Iamaman said: »
If they write a XI novel, the cover better be purple
It looks blue to me.

Fucshia. We've talked about this.
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By K123 2025-05-31 02:52:49
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So probably Apollyon = Relic and Temenos = AF?

I believe it was stated in the Freshly Picked that it was the opposite.
Pretty sure they also said that Sortie bosses would have weapon/armor drops added to them, years ago. They say a lot of things.
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By Ovalidal 2025-05-31 06:21:22
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Phoenix.Michelob said: »
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
So probably Apollyon = Relic and Temenos = AF?

I believe it was stated in the Freshly Picked that it was the opposite.

It did say the opposite.

Quote from the Freshly Picked Slide (1:58:52)
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Different points are accumulated in Temenos/Apollyon.

Temenas → For strengthening relic equipment.
Apollyon → For strengthening artifacts Strengthen with the furnace in Limbus.

Had to double check because I've been telling people the wrong thing lol.
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By Garfield 2025-05-31 18:35:47
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Godfry said: »
Garfield said: »
I think reading the interview questions might help

Yah think? Damn.. Good for you man.

Asura.Saevel said: »
Garfield said: »
I think reading the interview questions might help
Woah there, that's asking too much. Gotta keep expectations manageable.

Ok maybe this came out stronger than it sounded in my head lol

Still though, SE hasn't had a "hard requirement" of 18man for content in a very long time if ever? and SE has said for a long while now they are making adjustments for newer players and making the game more solo friendly, Sortie was that partially for at least the +2 upgrades to empy and now Limbus is going to fulfill that even more.

Imo not having alliancable content has hurt the game more than help, as my LS is now 1/3 of the size that it was 3-4 years ago, a bit after ody released and then sortie was not going to be alliance content.
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By Genoxd 2025-05-31 21:20:06
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You all are acting like all content is either party or alliance. They've had scaling content for a long time
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-05-31 21:30:55
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
I will be very surprised if killing monsters in this event doesn't give EP.

I really hope this does give EP on par with Apex monsters, but maybe not Locus. I like the idea of farming something else and getting progress towards Master Levels without just having to mindlessly kill EP designed monsters. It would be a nice "kill time" kind of content where I can do a few hours here and there and upgrade JSE, while also getting a few points on a variety of jobs.
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2025-05-31 21:32:00
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Garfield said: »
This is favorable content for LS's like mine that regularly did 18man omen/aeonics/dyna that could not incorporate ody and sortie in our LS event schedule due to the strict limitations on jobs and party size. I'm all for it.

1000000% this.

The other thing that's nice about alliance content is that it's generally easier to include people who might be at a lower level of gear/skill, but still allow them to participate in a "real" endgame event and improve by doing the same fun thing the rest of the LS is doing. And hey, that helps them get leveled up in both gear and in familiarity with the new hotness, so those people CAN level their performance by participating in the big new event.

It sort of sucks that newer or improving players have a harder time being good contributors in something like Gaol or Sortie, where 6 slots only means way less wiggle room. I mean, yeah, you can tell those players to go mess with stuff like Ambu or Seg farming instead, but I much prefer the more inclusive approach of just letting LS groups carry some people and bring them along. It's an MMO, it's about participating in content with other people. So having large scale group events that can better accomodate a wider array of people is only a good thing to me.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-05-31 21:44:52
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Genoxd said: »
You all are acting like all content is either party or alliance. They've had scaling content for a long time
Current meta isnt scaling. I covered this earlier though.

Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Ody/Sortie is the first FFXI primary content that was not flexible and require a full 6 to be successful. Yes, there were battle systems that were capped at 6, but you didnt need 6 to be successful. Most/all assaults could have been done with 3 or 4 people even at 75 cap. Meebles didnt need a full party to clear most/all excursions. My memory is hazy on this one, but I dont remember any fights really being THAT difficult.

Skirmish was kind of an exception to my above statement, but unlike Assault and Meebles that were time gated, you could also enter skirmish as often as you liked provided you got the KI to enter.


Sortie/Ody are not flexible on entry timers/requirement and are not flexible on the 6 person requirement. Can you go to Sheol or Sortie with 3 people? Of course you can, you're also gonna get BFA in segs/muffins compared to going with 6.

Current endgame content is built around having a strict six people. You cant do the content with less than six and obtain respectable results.

Can you do Sheol with 4? of course. Are you gonna get anywhere near a full clear with 4? No, not even close.
Can you do Gaol with 4? Of course. Are you gonna get any further than V5 with 4? Maybe if you're lucky, but thats a very tall order. I know unlocks are doable solo with trusts (and thats only because they removed the enmity lock on summoning trusts)
Can you do sortie with 4? Of course. But you're probably gonna wind up with 20k muffins per run.
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By Godfry 2025-05-31 21:45:10
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Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
It sort of sucks that newer or improving players have a harder time being good contributors in something like Gaol or Sortie, where 6 slots only means way less wiggle room. I mean, yeah, you can tell those players to go mess with stuff like Ambu or Seg farming instead, but I much prefer the more inclusive approach of just letting LS groups carry some people and bring them along. It's an MMO, it's about participating in content with other people. So having large scale group events that can better accomodate a wider array of people is only a good thing to me.

Yeah. I agree with this. My earlier point was against allowing alliance and making it so difficult that now you need two 9-boss sortie static to get anything done.

If it's more like what you are saying, where some weaker players can actually be carried by stronger players, that would be super cool. Much more engaging for the community as well.
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