Dev Tracker - Discussion

So probably Apollyon = Relic and Temenos = AF?

3 trust limit is interesting! Encouraging all those dual boxers to get a third account... perhaps a cherry Bard?

Entry limit seems dodgy. They say you can enter as much as you like as long as you meet the qualifications to enter, but will the qualification really just be a single permanent KI as they describe? Will we also have to pay a mil or something? Seems suspicious for what seems to be an instanced zone.

I will be very surprised if killing monsters in this event doesn't give EP.

I'm still kinda shocked that we're getting new Limbus with actual upgrades. I thought it was just going to be a workaround to address congestion.

It's obviously aimed at the 50% who exclusively solo, the previous problem was people got used to having their trust setup and so refused to invite others. Now there is no reason not to invite someone else.

There are still a lot of reasons not to invite other people lol

The fact that your solo party will be limited to Qultada Koru and Ulmia is not one of them.

Still depends whether the number of points per kill depends on the number of real players (like XP), but otherwise I agree.

I think the most surprising thing so far is how transparent they seem to be about this. This level of communication is not what I'm used to expecting with SE.

It's not permanent! The entry requirements are "have finished RoV" (permanent) and "have a White or Black Card" (you know, the ones that got consumed every time you entered in old Limbus and you had to go back to the ???, or kill a Euvhi before they added that). So there's some cooldown to go get one of those again even if they're accessible instantly anytime, cause there's travel time.
edit: lmao no I misread the first paragraph, card won't be consumed?! okay yeah I'm with you on being confused

Anyway, kind of confused about the level thing - are the zones going to be instanced by level? If you can go in and other people are also in there, where does the "pick a level of mob to spawn" thing come in?

Matsui said that Fujito was "ambitious" for what he wanted to do with FFXI. I always thought this was a weird thing to say about a guy giving the reigns who was planning on putting the game in maintenance mode.

Apparently, SE was the one wanting FFXI in maintenance mode by 2024, and Fujito had to work some magic with the adventurer's survey to convince SE that they should still be working on the game.

I'm definitely a fan of this direction of content. One of my favorite things from early Adoulin was the whole servers teaming up for the Naakual fights and seeing everyone smacking reives together. Content that you can do at your own pace is also a welcomed addition because some days I can hammer at it for several hours and some days I may only have an hour at best to throw at the game. This style of content is also really good for newer players as well. A big win in my book.

Was already posted, but it's probably going to be like the system in the naraka/panopt RoV missions that delevels the mobs when you claim them. If you touch a mob, it gets lowered to the level you selected[if it is currently higher]. Rewards for killing it match the level it ends up at, which has to be the lowest level it was during combat.

Would be a great way to have extremely high level monsters for EP while not excluding people.

So gonna play devils advocate, how long until they have to patch it to prevent a small number of players from spike flailing or otherwise wiping out everyone else?

Doubt there's going to be anything to flail. Doubling down on my earlier prediction that people will be ballsy enough to bot it day 1 and there'll be a whole lot of :shockedpikachu: when bans start dropping.

Omega has rear lasers

While it's not spike flail, it's a nonzero grief tactic. It could do severe damage etc

I'm picturing something like abyssea + encounter flag. You can pop NMs, but nobody outside your group can interact with them. Guess they didn't explicitly state whether they'd be DI-style fights, though.

I'm thinking it's a combination of both systems, they mentioned adding "boss like NM's" later. And while I enjoy the occasional DI style fight, I would hate for that to be the only boss fight available. And assuming it's a "we murder tons of random monsters for points", yeah it'll be boted and then the hammer will fall and clean em out. It's already outrageous in the ML camps, SE isn't gonna tolerate it in the "new content".

Though I'm still curious how they are going to design this around the Towers that are Temenos. Like Apollyon is more open and Promy like, so big spaces are fine, but Temenos will have to be redesigned if they want to back a bunch of people in one zone.

My guess is: Fodder for points, points can be used for pops, a variety of pop NMs that give KIs. The KIs are used to fight Omega/Ultima which will be instanced fights.

Just throwing this out there now, in a 3-trust limited scenario where Cornelia isn't available, a NIN leader in Sylvie UC sounds like the best job lowman job for this. Sylvie caps magical haste on her own with Indi-Haste + Haste (spell), so you don't require a RDM. You can still summon one for Dia 3 and the ability to Haste others, and you still have room for Qultada (if you want an errant Burning Blade interrupting your 5-step), or you can opt for Ygnas for heals, if it's even needed. If there are mobs that don't particularly have magical AOE, this makes Yagyu Darkblade very attractive as an option, too, as you can protect your trusts a bit. Would be interesting to see if Hybrids work in there also. You could even go AAEV/Sylvie/Ygnas and Innin/Yain from behind and deal all the damage while the tank holds.

Then just find 2 other people and go to town.

I kinda wonder if it's going to have some of the same characteristics as Abyssea.

In before nobody wants to do the outdoor zone because 1/2 the mobs they showcased have full dispel moves.... lol

Is the one with weapon resistance coming back?

How are you all interpreting this?

I'm interpreting this as them saying they're going to instance it (previously called Layered Zones), so each party does not occupy an area as they did in OG Dynamis and Limbus. Sounds like you select the monster level when entering and you get warped to an instance similar to Ambuscade, no?

Is that how you all are interpreting it as well? Have they said something else that implies something else?

They seem to have said that it's not an instance. I think this is going to be something like abyssea without a timer

Well, this also implies potential for alliances, huh?

Which means they listened to feedback about the garbage 6 player limit in their last two events.

Now everyone can take all their alts.

inb4 players find that the "sweet spot" for <insert new currency here> is 3 players+3 trusts, and anything more than that tanks your point/hr farming. But it doesn't matter if you're just botting/afk 24/7 in an alliance like old Abyssea parties.

I have no alts - how cooked am I chat?

Remember that the 6 player limit was supposed to be a deterrent against RMT selling slots. It didnt deter *** all. To top it off, I was told people would literally give RMT their acct info to do the content.

Told? How do you think you pay for a mythic? $250 dollars, you give the RMT your login info, get your mythic in a few days.

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