Dev Tracker - Discussion

Personally I'm more excited for the new ilvl kraken club they teased..

It's ilvl octave club.

Joke's on you.

Would be crazy if it worked on MLVLs instead of your level.

It'll work when they add MLs up to getting /64 from SJ lol

ML75, it's like the OG lvl 75 feel

Hidden effect: must have ilv multiple of 118

the ajustment to level cap will either likely be reduction of exemplar cost for level up (not likely. but hopefully) or more mlvl. if its more mlvl, then it's almost bait for bots because it would be likely impossible to obtain anything past 50 without pure botting

Despite the wording, there's no way that level cap adjustment pertains to anything but Besieged.

i mean i would hope so, but you never know. it is SE afterall.. they sometimes do strange things

Next update, we will be level capped between 10 and 20 so we can return to Valkurm Dunes for a month and enjoy ourselves like it's 20+ years ago.

Did they?

No. Mihli uses a club and there's a picture of her to represent the besieged update.

Yeah, I think they just screenshotted one of the 3-4 General's cutscenes you get from winning Besieged. I didn't interpret it as a reveal.

With SE, I try not to get hopes up. (I do miss being pleasantly surprised by a video game).

The level cap of besieged is obviously what they are talking about. They say it the same sentence as moral gauge, which will be implemented for besieged.

From official notes:

・ Ease certain upgrade costs for artifact gear
・ Ease certain upgrade costs for relic gear
・ Ease job card exchange rate

What the..

Listening to the players, a decade later

What's worse than not changing the most complained about exchange system in the game?

Changing it, but only after a decade.

Right after a campaign too lol

I was out of the loop, but is there still the restriction of unlocking a single relic piece per zone midboss?

This is something I always considered super annoying, I wish maybe a four zone midboss and unlock all pieces for all jobs

I guess this means 8 years from now we're gonna get a decent excent for stones in Sortie?
Time to start saving those stones!

Brb freezing my account, I'll be back in 2033

Don’t know anyone short of stones that play the content. Short if muffins yeah but not stones….

I am welcoming the cheaper upgrade for sure, and specifically the exchange, detritus farmer will get a whole lot more cards for their jobs (currently over 1000 THF card…).

There’s gonna be a lot more taru and Mithras around, Make Windurst Great Again !!!

Limbus giving us threeforged AF and Relic, confirmed.

I haven't had my coffee yet, so it's possible I'm just being moody xD, but I read these notes and feel like they're unnecessarily wordy, and largely nothingburgers, despite looking like it's a huge update.

The cards and WS points thing is 10-15 years late, the latter literally nobody cared about or reported (they found it after releasing macro test), because nobody really cares about unlocking those old WS for the most part. The ambu weapons unlock them already and are far stronger when used with the weapons than without, so most people didn't even bother to go back and quest (nobody is using Decimation without Ambu Axe, you're not using Savage Blade without Naegling (maybe BLU might, but you already quested it)). Idk, both of those seem like super QOL/slaps in the face at this point because anyone who has needed cards on terrible jobs either did them a while ago (SMN etc) or converted literally hundreds of THF cards from cleaving into job cards. Changing the ratio now after dozens of card campaigns is the most SE thing you could ever do.

They're really not doing anything major this update besides the race swap and level increase for besieged. I see a mention of VanaBout in there (LOL), and they say Limbus but have given no news about it so far. Some were hoping they would have an announcement on where we stand with Limbus, but that will likely come in the Summer.

There are people who don't do daily omen on thf who still really wanted card exchange improvement.

Not every thing is for every one.

The next thing they finally improve, those people who wanted cards won't care about. And the next next thing they will. So it goes.

Card exchange being so harsh was only initially added to gate progress. With the gear being relatively weak, it makes perfect sense to remove that gate. Fixing it earlier would've defeated the purpose. The content is now being balanced as a little side excursion, rather than something that needs to be done daily for 2 years.

WS points whatever. I don't think 250/300 points was excessive, especially since everyone can self-light/dark and knock it out in a half hour or less. Not important enough to be bothered about it being nerfed, though.

Problem is everyone that wanted to use their 1000s of cards for a job already did so, especially right after a campaign..

Changing it literally a week after a campaign ended and reducing it to, presumably, a lower than the campaign tier is some high level trolling.

These are great QoL changes. Not sure why you're all finding every reason to complain. Lots of people are gearing more jobs still. The job card campaign is coming back in May. I, and I'm sure others, have a hoard of random job cards that I can hopefully convert now.

Who knows what kind of mess they have to unwind with this and it sounded to me like they only started development when Limbus was taken offline in OG form. My assumption is we'll be closer to end of year before we get any real update beyond "it's coming", but I'd love to be surprised.

I'd also be shocked if it comes out at the same time and they don't release it in segments, like Sortie

The implemented exchange rate made no sense and it was a "*** you, were only adding this because we dont want to hear you cry about unused cards". Hitting every goal in one run during a card campaign wouldnt net you enough cards for a conversion. Without card campaign, it would take 3-4 runs to get enough cards to trade for one card of another job.

You could have been on a roll if you said Odyssey, I was rooting for you.