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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-12-01 10:02:14
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Siren.Mosin said: »
7 million people that voted for Obama in 2012 voted for trump.

where did you get that number?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-12-01 10:06:58
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
It's amazing how you guys went on the defensive and started spinning the story in a matter of minutes while nobody said anything about it.
And what's even more remarkable it isn't even being spun by Fox "news" yet.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-12-01 10:09:51
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
It's amazing how you guys went on the defensive and started spinning the story in a matter of minutes while nobody said anything about it.
And what's even more remarkable it isn't even being spun by Fox "news" yet.

yeah we should at least let them finish the song they have been singing every day all year....hit it glenda!!!
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By Zerowone 2017-12-01 10:10:12
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
7 million people that voted for Obama in 2012 voted for trump.

where did you get that number?

In the words of White House Press Secretary:

“It doesn’t matter if the numbers aren’t real. Because the threat is real!”
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By Zerowone 2017-12-01 10:11:45
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fonewear said: »
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fonewear said: »
Red beer sounds like you are a commie !

my firearms and wife are russian too, deal with it.

Russian wife you son of a *** I bet you think new Simpsons episodes are good too !

He might be Donald Trump.
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By Siren.Mosin 2017-12-01 10:15:59
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
7 million people that voted for Obama in 2012 voted for trump.

where did you get that number?

I'll see if I can find an article.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-12-01 10:16:47
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
It's amazing how you guys went on the defensive and started spinning the story in a matter of minutes while nobody said anything about it.

This type of talk has been going on for months. We simply preempted the inevitable.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-12-01 10:18:17
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Siren.Mosin said: »
I've heard the same 'opinion' from several lawyers irl, and in the media. Flynn's rolling on someone, it's just a matter of who.

The opinions of lawyers and the news mean practically nothing if it's just conjecture.
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By Siren.Mosin 2017-12-01 10:18:52
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
where did you get that number?

this site says it was 8.5M, I was underestimating.
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By Zerowone 2017-12-01 10:18:59
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Flynn plead guilty to relatively small charge (in light of everything else he’s done). That implies he cut a deal and flipped. Flipped on who. Dunno, hope it’s Ivanka and it’s on state charges. Because that would cause Donny to implode.
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By Siren.Mosin 2017-12-01 10:19:34
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
The opinions of lawyers and the news mean practically nothing if it's just conjecture.

agreed. time will tell.
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By Siren.Mosin 2017-12-01 10:27:02
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He might be Donald Trump.

I'm NOT trump, but he's a great guy. I wish I could be him, or be with him. He's a winner! He really wins all the things. Rich and smart, too. He's just really great, great like america used to be. People make fun of his hair, but I don't know why. It's good hair. like, really good. nice color. Melania is super hot too, don't you think? maybe not as hot as Ivanka, but pretty hot. right? you guys want to go golfing?
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-12-01 10:28:09
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Siren.Mosin said: »
I've heard the same 'opinion' from several lawyers irl, and in the media. Flynn's rolling on someone, it's just a matter of who.

*Cough* *** *Cough*

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plea_bargain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

Now it's within the realm of possibility for Flynn to be giving secret inlet on the location of Trumps secret villain hideout so the liberal caped crusaders can swoop in and save the world. It's infinitely more reasonable that Flynn is simply doing a plea agreement where he cooperates, provides details on associates in his various illegal dealings and gets leniency. The idea that "he'll GET TRUMP" is just ludicrous.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-12-01 10:30:41
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Jesus autocorrect sucks ***, was supposed to be secret island.
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By fonewear 2017-12-01 10:31:02
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Where is CJ with Drumpf is finished I need a dose of hilarity.
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By Zerowone 2017-12-01 10:33:30
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fonewear said: »
Where is CJ with Drumpf is finished I need a dose of hilarity.

Top of this page.
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By Siren.Mosin 2017-12-01 10:33:34
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Asura.Saevel said: »
It's infinitely more reasonable that Flynn is simply doing a plea agreement where he cooperates, provides details on associates in his various illegal dealings and gets leniency.

that's what I said though....


Asura.Saevel said: »
The idea that "he'll GET TRUMP" is just ludicrous.

never said this, or even thought it, honestly.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-12-01 10:34:46
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Siren.Mosin said: »
Asura.Saevel said: »
It's infinitely more reasonable that Flynn is simply doing a plea agreement where he cooperates, provides details on associates in his various illegal dealings and gets leniency.

that's what I said though....


Asura.Saevel said: »
The idea that "he'll GET TRUMP" is just ludicrous.

never said this, or even thought it, honestly.

Read the article.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-12-01 10:35:24
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
I've heard the same 'opinion' from several lawyers irl, and in the media. Flynn's rolling on someone, it's just a matter of who.
*Cough* *** *Cough*

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plea_bargain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

Now it's within the realm of possibility for Flynn to be giving secret inlet on the location of Trumps secret villain hideout so the liberal caped crusaders can swoop in and save the world. It's infinitely more reasonable that Flynn is simply doing a plea agreement where he cooperates, provides details on associates in his various illegal dealings and gets leniency. The idea that "he'll GET TRUMP" is just ludicrous.
Who ever said that Flynn is rolling on Trump?

Also, Occam's razor is not in any way related to the practice of law.
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By Siren.Mosin 2017-12-01 10:36:55
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Read the article.

what article? you linked two wiki pages to things that are more or less common knowledge...
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-12-01 10:41:14
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Siren.Mosin said: »
what article?

the article chanti posted I think
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By Nausi 2017-12-01 10:41:54
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Flynn reportedly has agreed to testify that Trump directed him to make contact with Russian officials.

Again this is just libs polishing up a turd. Every incoming administration makes contact with the Russians at some point. This isn't news, but MSM sure wants it to be.
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By Nausi 2017-12-01 10:46:30
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In fact, what this PROVES is that if the big enchilada is that Flynn spoke to the Russians AFTER the election, then it means he didn't make contact BEFORE the election when everyone wants to think he 'colluded".
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-12-01 10:47:32
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Nausi said: »
Flynn reportedly has agreed to testify that Trump directed him to make contact with Russian officials.

Again this is just libs polishing up a turd. Every incoming administration makes contact with the Russians at some point. This isn't news, but MSM sure wants it to be.

ABC is the only "reporting" it and it's loaded with those generic wriggle words, not even a source. We'll get more info next week but no "slam dunk Trumps Impeached!!!" happening.
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By Nausi 2017-12-01 10:49:36
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Nausi said: »
Flynn reportedly has agreed to testify that Trump directed him to make contact with Russian officials.

Again this is just libs polishing up a turd. Every incoming administration makes contact with the Russians at some point. This isn't news, but MSM sure wants it to be.

ABC is the only "reporting" it and it's loaded with those generic wriggle words, not even a source. We'll get more info next week but no "slam dunk Trumps Impeached!!!" happening.
Think libs will put 2 + 2 together this time or is the kool-aid too strong?
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By Siren.Mosin 2017-12-01 10:50:05
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
the article chanti posted I think

If I'm going to get lumped into the same box as some *** at bloomberg, I should at least get some of that sweet writer money.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-12-01 10:51:33
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Nausi said: »
In fact, what this PROVES is that if the big enchilada is that Flynn spoke to the Russians AFTER the election, then it means he didn't make contact BEFORE the election when everyone wants to think he 'colluded".

It's already known that various Russian entities were working with both the Clinton and the Trump campaigns during the election. Heck they were working with the Clinton campaign long beforehand. What the libs want to do is "prove" that Trump ordered Russian to attack Clinton and rig the election so she wouldn't win. That's not going to happen, so the best they can get is to throw enough mud at him that some sticks by sheer virtue of association. It's the same tactic done during the campaign with all the allegations tossed around.
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By Siren.Mosin 2017-12-01 10:52:22
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The collusion stuff just makes me laugh, he asked the russians to hack the DNC live on TV in a debate. you can't really accuse him of treachery when it was in the open for anyone who was paying attention to see.
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