Random Politics & Religion #22

Fortunately no, but I live in south-east Texas, so I think the odds of that happening are relatively low. I also interact with very few people outside of a professional environment. Partly why I don't care enough to make a stand against it because it has yet to effect me. The current state of the gender-fluidity movement isn't really the issue, the future state could be problematic.

Currently it makes for some great memes.

How could the future state of it become problematic?

As for the south east Texas thing I don't think it really matters all that much geographically... I live in downtown Chicago and I've never run into that issue...

Imagine a world where people identify as a different gender and imagine have a conversion with him(*****her/it/shekin/hekin).

You are limiting your foresight.

It may not be an issue, but again respecting the potential issues is what foresight is. On top of all that there is nothing to be gained by it.

If your friend said he could make a bomb for no purpose other than to make it, would you advise him to do it? Knowing that the bomb could cause destruction? Knowing that there was no gain in him doing so?


Also have we ever considered the psychological impact it has on people? I'm curious to what leading psychologist say about it.

no I'd help him stuff it in one of those super fancy mailboxes and blow that sucker to kingdom come....

We know that you want the world to burn Niko

If you call Caitlyn, Bruce, you are told that you're a bigot or a transphobe. How is that different than dismissing someone claim to be a t-Rex or a ninja?

It's not about if THEY want to pretend to be whatever they want, that's all fine and dandy with me. Chop your *** off, take what ever hormone cocktail you want. It's you're body, but you start encroaching on my person when you insist I not be allowed to make My own opinions about it.

I'm imagining it now... I don't really see the issue... i imagine it going just like any other conversation... most people don't really make anything of their gender in general conversation...how do you see it going?

I'm not limiting my foresight I just seem to have a different vision of how it would be though you haven't really discussed what it is you actually see happening...

There is something to be gained by it... it's an important part of some people's identity and gives them a sense of belonging where they had none before... at least you're saying it's not actually an issue right now but you haven't elaborated on how you think this will change to become an issue...

So what's the explosion that you're referring to in this whole gender identity thing because this whole bomb comparison is kinda assanine...

Well it looks like you haven't even considered it until right now lol... people have I'm sure... idk why don't you put some time into and see what the psycological effect on people is... it clearly isn't part of your fear what this could become yet...

Well Bruce had his name legally changed to Caitlyn and you know the person's name is Caitlyn now so why are you calling that person Bruce? I mean you know what their name is now and people change their name through a legal process often enough so why are you insistent on calling Caitlyn, Bruce? That resistance could be seen as something similar to bigotry or transphobia so I get that even though I don't condone people attacking others in response... a name is a name though it's not that hard to call someone by their name...

Also, it's different because that is now actually the person's name... the other fictional people you are talking about clearly aren't ninjas or t-Rex's so that would be the difference...

Well I mean you are entitled to your own opinions... I mean isn't it only fair that they're allowed their own opinions too? Their opinion that because of your reaction to them you're a bigot or a transphobe or are they not allowed to have their own opinions about you? I mean you judged them based on their actions why can't they in turn judge you based on yours?

You are overstating my "fear". I just outlining the problems I foresee. I am not in a bunker ready to start a war. The bomb analogy was just used to explain the way I see the situation, maybe less dire - maybe more.

But we can talk about the psychological aspects of it.


How is creating an identity for yourself truly finding somewhere you belong? Sounds like you are just digging a hole to loneliness without ever finding your place in society. Sounds empty. Can't find your place in society? Make up a place!

Marcon is also a cuck, as in lives with an older woman and takes care of her kids. Supposedly has been involved with her since before he was an adult.

#imwithher

Don't know why, but I immediately thought of this:

What are you if you crack a joke about him wrecking his car right after having the procedure done?

You haven't stated one thing clearly yet on what you think would be problematic about all this only that it could be in the future then referenced that there could be psycological affects on people and wondered what psychologists would think about it..

the idea is not they're creating identities for themselves but this is just who they are and then it's labeled so we can identify it... people find a place they belong in a number of subset groups in society... how about emo kids or goths? Skaters? Punk rockers? You can name any number of subsets... A lot of people don't fit in generally and then find they belong somewhere else and finding other people similar to themselves... I think your dismissive attitude without actually attempting to understand the actual issue at hand though isn't very helpful.. maybe this is where the problem you talk about stems from...

The problem comes from it all being lumped into political correctness, which nowadays is nothing more than a weapon used against those who think differently. In spite of transgender individuals being a small minority, I wouldn't be surprised if there are places where you could get fired for "assuming the gender" of a cisgender individual with an activist chip on their shoulder.

Political correctness has always been around though Rav... it's just taken to a new face... the things you couldn't do or say have just changed... I will agree that it has been used as a tool but I mean just like you don't think it's right for someone to be fired for assuming someone's gender don't you also think it's wrong to get fired for being gay or identifying as another gender? It's just people standing up for what they believe in and using whatever means they can do a hive their goals... some of it I agree with other parts I think go too far and those ones usually do nothing but hurt any cause they're going for...

As for someone being fired for assuming someone else's gender I think we both know that's extremely unlikely... it's still more likely that someone get fired for being a trans person or something of that nature and even though you may think that's wrong as well you don't seem to think that side of its worth mentioning...

Well you haven't mentioned the potential impact of drought in Yemen. DO YOU NOT CARE THAT CHILDREN ARE STARVING, YOU HEARTLESS 1ST WORLD PIG?!?

See the problem with trying to make accusations based on things someone hasn't said?

I've been in on this trans issue before you guys:

This guy was the first in the trans movement also:

Henry David Thoreau: Transcendentalism

In case you aren't familiar with it:

A core belief of transcendentalism is in the inherent goodness of people and nature. Adherents believe that society and its institutions have corrupted the purity of the individual, and they have faith that people are at their best when truly "self-reliant" and independent.

I have transcended transcendentalism. Rather than being self-reliant, I prefer that people be self-reliant in my behalf.

Don't worry the robot future is coming. Any our robots shall do thy bidding !

We'll be like George Jetson, getting completely worn out by pushing the "clean house" button.

How does this fit in to anything being discussed except maybe your own persecution complex?

Gender fluid...sounds like a personal problem !

You said I didn't think trans people getting fired for being trans was worth mentioning. That's ridiculous and out of place for the argument. I was making a short argument from the viewpoint of the problems of political correctness. I'm not writing a book about every facet of the transgender issue so that you can be appeased.

I wrote a book about trans gender it's called my fluid father !

I suggest you guys win an Olympic medal go on a reality TV show wait till you are in your 60s then come out as trans gender ??? profit !

I'm working on an Olympic medal already. Have you seen the people who compete in curling? I figure if a chainsmoker can compete in the Olympics, then so can I.

The Olympics aren't what they used to be where is man vs lion event ?

I found 99% of your life's problems right now.