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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-04-04 11:44:49
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http://www.latlmes.com/nation/russian-ties-confirmed-trump-impeachment-hearings-set-for-monday-1
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-04-04 11:48:57
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Fellow non libs:

Does Vic really not get it, or is he just placing his ideology above the truth?

I generally believe the latter, but after that last one I'm just not sure.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-04-04 12:02:24
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Rice is now on record denying any inappropriate spying on Trump and his team. Reminder this was the same woman whom 11 days ago said she had no idea about any unmasking.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-04-04 12:07:09
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Rice is now on record denying any inappropriate spying on Trump and his team. Reminder this was the same woman whom 11 days ago said she had no idea about any unmasking.

I'm sure she wiped her hard drive with a clean cloth.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2017-04-04 12:08:05
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Viciouss said: »
Joe Biden making a comment that had no impact on the Supreme Court does not set any precedent. There was no precedent for blocking Garland.

Did anyone object to Biden's suggestion on the Democrat side when he made the comment? Oh yeah, they thought it was a great idea... until it bit them. It's just the same old hypocritical partisan nonsense.

If it makes you feel any better, if Garland had gone to vote he wouldn't have passed anyway.
It still doesn't make it a precedent as no Supreme Court nominee was ever put forward and the ignored by the Dems... so yeah...

Unless you're saying that the pubs that vowed never to accept any of HRCs nominees for the term of her presidency had she been elected now precedent for the Dems to do that should they regain control at some point and choose to do this? I mean they made arguments for leaving the seat vacant but it never came to that anyways but I mean that sets precedent right? Don't get mad if it happens lol...
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-04-04 12:16:16
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Don't get mad if it happens lol...

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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-04-04 12:55:45
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Rice is now on record denying any inappropriate spying on Trump and his team. Reminder this was the same woman whom 11 days ago said she had no idea about any unmasking.

Werent MSM sources all facts I don't like? But anyways it's not like you have any issues defending people lying on record.

nausi sourced something?

I call bravo sierra
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-04-04 13:02:00
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Rice is now on record denying any inappropriate spying on Trump and his team. Reminder this was the same woman whom 11 days ago said she had no idea about any unmasking.

Werent MSM sources all facts I don't like? But anyways it's not like you have any issues defending people lying on record.

That's not how facts I don't like works.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-04-04 13:04:00
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Rice is now on record denying any inappropriate spying on Trump and his team. Reminder this was the same woman whom 11 days ago said she had no idea about any unmasking.

Werent MSM sources all facts I don't like? But anyways it's not like you have any issues defending people lying on record.

nausi sourced something?

I call bravo sierra
Jesus Christ old man. It's not hat I'm lazy, but working the forum code on an iPhone is just a huge pain in the ***.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-04-04 13:07:31
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Rice is now on record denying any inappropriate spying on Trump and his team. Reminder this was the same woman whom 11 days ago said she had no idea about any unmasking.

Werent MSM sources all facts I don't like? But anyways it's not like you have any issues defending people lying on record.

nausi sourced something?

I call bravo sierra
Jesus Christ old man. It's not that I'm lazy, but working the forum code on an iPhone is just a huge pain in the ***.

I have the same problem on my tablet... no I just can't remember you ever posting a link to anything...ever.

and that's how I knew shiroi was lying! /sherlock holmes hat
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2017-04-04 13:15:37
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Rice is now on record denying any inappropriate spying on Trump and his team. Reminder this was the same woman whom 11 days ago said she had no idea about any unmasking.

Werent MSM sources all facts I don't like? But anyways it's not like you have any issues defending people lying on record.

nausi sourced something?

I call bravo sierra
Jesus Christ old man. It's not that I'm lazy, but working the forum code on an iPhone is just a huge pain in the ***.

I have the same problem on my tablet... no I just can't remember you ever posting a link to anything...ever.

and that's how I knew shiroi was lying! /sherlock holmes hat
He links to hot air often enough... most of his talking points are just regurgitated from stuff like that...
 
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By Bahamut.Omael 2017-04-04 13:20:43
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Rice is now on record denying any inappropriate spying on Trump and his team. Reminder this was the same woman whom 11 days ago said she had no idea about any unmasking.

Werent MSM sources all facts I don't like? But anyways it's not like you have any issues defending people lying on record.

That's not how facts I don't like works.

Please, enlighten me, how does facts I don't like work. I'm thrilled to learn your conclusions.

If it agrees with you, it's real. If not, it's fake.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-04-04 13:27:11
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Rice is now on record denying any inappropriate spying on Trump and his team. Reminder this was the same woman whom 11 days ago said she had no idea about any unmasking.

Werent MSM sources all facts I don't like? But anyways it's not like you have any issues defending people lying on record.

That's not how facts I don't like works.

Please, enlighten me, how does facts I don't like work. I'm thrilled to learn your conclusions.

If any particular reported fact cannot be independently verified by another source, then you sorta have to auto-suspect the motives of the author or individual political activist journalist that wrote the story.

In other words, everything is facts I don't like until it is proven it's not propaganda.
 
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By Viciouss 2017-04-04 13:34:59
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So nausi just admitted everything he posts is facts I don't like, how nice of him.

Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
uh-oh!

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“The overheard conversations involved no illegal activity by anybody of the Trump associates, or anyone they were speaking with,” diGenova said. “In short, the only apparent illegal activity was the unmasking of the people in the calls.”

Guess we can disregard this post, assuming there was somebody that hadn't already done so.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-04 13:42:11
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Rice is now on record denying any inappropriate spying on Trump and his team. Reminder this was the same woman whom 11 days ago said she had no idea about any unmasking.

Werent MSM sources all facts I don't like? But anyways it's not like you have any issues defending people lying on record.

That's not how facts I don't like works.

Please, enlighten me, how does facts I don't like work. I'm thrilled to learn your conclusions.

If any particular reported fact cannot be independently verified by another source, then you sorta have to auto-suspect the motives of the author or individual political activist journalist that wrote the story.

In other words, everything is facts I don't like until it is proven it's not propaganda.

Ok, so the Susan Rice thing is facts I don't like by your own definition.
Just because you refuse to verify through another source if the story is true or not doesn't automatically mean that everything you disagree with is fake.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-04 13:43:30
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Viciouss said: »
So nausi just admitted everything he posts is facts I don't like, how nice of him.

Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
uh-oh!

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“The overheard conversations involved no illegal activity by anybody of the Trump associates, or anyone they were speaking with,” diGenova said. “In short, the only apparent illegal activity was the unmasking of the people in the calls.”

Guess we can disregard this post, assuming there was somebody that hadn't already done so.
Nice try.

But please, keep burying your head in the sand, or whoever's orifice you choose to bury it in.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-04-04 13:49:07
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Nice try.

But please, keep burying your head in the sand, or whoever's orifice you choose to bury it in.
To substantiate one unverified story you cite another unverified story?
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By Viciouss 2017-04-04 13:51:58
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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So nausi just admitted everything he posts is facts I don't like, how nice of him.

Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
uh-oh!

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“The overheard conversations involved no illegal activity by anybody of the Trump associates, or anyone they were speaking with,” diGenova said. “In short, the only apparent illegal activity was the unmasking of the people in the calls.”

Guess we can disregard this post, assuming there was somebody that hadn't already done so.
Nice try.

Yeah no. Fox News is the one that made up the Rice story, probably to distract from the huge sex scandal that is drowning them. It hasn't been verified by anything even close to an independent source. Nice try tho.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-04-04 13:52:47
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Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
talking points

I have seen way too many of trump's weird ramblings turn out to be "true" or at least partially true enough he can go see!? that's what I was talking about... to just write it off...

but also the obama administration took john gotti's "teflon don" coating and added one of those new red copper pans level of nonstickingness.....and they're scratchfree!!!!

 
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-04-04 14:00:27
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Rice in March:

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“I know nothing” of Devin Nunes’s claims about incidental surveillance of Trump staffers..."

This turned out to be a lie.

Today she flat out denied the notion that she maintained spreadsheets. She also said that no information was ever used for political purposes, and that she never leaked anything to the media.

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Rice added that it's not unusual to request the identities of people caught on intelligence surveillance. She gave, as a hypothetical answer, "if two foreigners were having a conversation" about a possible bombing with an American. She said they would want to know if that person "was some kook" or a legitimate threat.

The white house advisor plays no role in the actual investigation. That's done by the various agencies (FBI NSA etc).

There is no "non-political" decision that she must make which requires that information.

This is the same woman who lied to you all two weeks ago and 4.5 years ago with "benghazi was the result of a video".
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-04-04 14:04:29
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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Rice is now on record denying any inappropriate spying on Trump and his team. Reminder this was the same woman whom 11 days ago said she had no idea about any unmasking.

Werent MSM sources all facts I don't like? But anyways it's not like you have any issues defending people lying on record.

That's not how facts I don't like works.

Please, enlighten me, how does facts I don't like work. I'm thrilled to learn your conclusions.

If any particular reported fact cannot be independently verified by another source, then you sorta have to auto-suspect the motives of the author or individual political activist journalist that wrote the story.

In other words, everything is facts I don't like until it is proven it's not propaganda.

Ok, so the Susan Rice thing is facts I don't like by your own definition.
Wrong, I hope you're just being cheeky but lets get it crystal clear.

It's facts I don't like if it's false. But you could certainly suspect the "Susan Rice thing" (whatever you specifically mean by that) of being facts I don't like until it's otherwise verified.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-04-04 14:05:21
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
I like this concept of guilty until proven innocent.

Just like that whole Trump Russia collusion thing?
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By Viciouss 2017-04-04 14:08:41
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Rice in March:

“I know nothing” of Devin Nunes’s claims about incidental surveillance of Trump staffers..."

This turned out to be a lie.

Source?
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-04-04 14:12:40
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Viciouss said: »
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Rice in March:

“I know nothing” of Devin Nunes’s claims about incidental surveillance of Trump staffers..."

This turned out to be a lie.

Source?

She requested unmasking of individuals within surveillance that she knew knew nothing about?
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By Viciouss 2017-04-04 14:16:51
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
She requested unmasking of individuals within surveillance that she knew knew nothing about?

Whats your source that Rice requested unmasking of these people?
 
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