Random Politics & Religion #22

Now the investigation is criminal?

What crime did Trump and his team commit? Let me guess, something impeachable?

Can you provide evidence, sources, or anything else to prove what you are saying? You might need to get your head out of the sand/orifice first.

Eh, if anything there's an investigation into Russian meddling in the US presidential campaign... there hasn't been any official criminal investigation into Trump directly or anything like that...

He has nothing, he knows that the evidence shown to the public strongly shows collusion with the Clinton campaign and Obama Administration, with revelations coming out every week, and is in denial that a campaign who has been shown red handed to collude with the media most likely colluded with an administration that also has a history of using federal agencies against political opponents.

Seriously, the Obama Administration stinks to high heaven, and will most likely get some ex-higher ups arrested for criminal charges at the end of the day. The question remains, how high will it go?

Sure KN, just read the Comey testimony. Also, that trash blog's defense of Carter Page was full of hopes and dreams, no debunking of anything there. Those blogs you like to post are not actual evidence.

Its funny you think that the revelations coming out every week against Manafort and Page that further implicate the Trump campaign, which is doing its best to run away from those two (there is no running away from a former campaign manager btw) somehow indict Obama and Clinton, when there is no evidence to suggest they were involved at all.

Nothing credible has implicated Obama or his team of any wrongdoing. Susan Rice? Did nothing wrong.

Idk... the current lotus was talking about locking good ol' HRC up and that died as soon as the election was over... it seemed like everyone was pretty certain that she was guilty and there was proof and yet here we are... she is free and no one is coming after her for anything...

Regardless of guilt or innocence I don't really see anyone all that high up, if anyone at all, going down for anything...

The real issue is that political clout seems to get you a pass if you have enough of it and it's usually us that get screwed by politicians with no real accountability and quite honestly we have ourselves to blame for that on a couple of fronts one of which being is that we never really want our side to lose so we don't want to take a closer look at our side unless it's so glaringly blinding you that you can't look away...

Thats ok, the FBI and Congress are still investigating Team Trump for the simple fact that the public deserves the truth about whether the Trump campaign was connected to Russia during the election. Everything Trump has said on the matter has been a lie, he has done his best to implicate Obama and Clinton but it hasn't worked at all. He just makes stuff up and the deplorables run with it. By now we are used to Trump lying about something on a daily basis.

the only difference in our viewpoints is perspective

you are still clinging to the hope that you and your perception, in the grand cosmic universal scheme of things, matter... and that therefore this "empathy" that you have is tipping the universal scales towards the side of fairness.

where as I contend our entire existance as a species is meaningless and nothing that anyone does matters on the grand scale of the universe so empathy will never tip the scale because it doesn't have any weight in the physical universe...and the scale is broken anyways...well in the sense that it is a self correcting scale that automatically fills the side that is emptiest

and other than perhaps the physical imprint of leaving a few pieces of space garbage in the form of satalites and space probes scattered about the galaxy, we can't even begin to hope to dream of influencing anything really....everything else we have built will one day return to sand and ash

think about it, we colapse our entire solar system into the sun and in the process destroy the sun and probably nobody would notice.

some reptilian astronomer thousands of light year away might notice our small spec of a sun blinking off enough for them to do a double take and then clean off their glasses and then shrug it off

we're monkey sitting around smelling our own butts and wondering in vain if it matters how bad it smells. it doesn't

You mean Comey saying that they are using "credible sources" that turns out to be this very dossier? Sure bub, keep pinning your hopes and dreams on a Trump impeachment.

I'm glad for you, though, that you stopped striking out parts you don't agree with in hopes of thinking those words were never written. Improvement.

Now, next thing on the schedule is teaching you to read before you speak. That would save you a lot of embarrassment in the long wrong.

You are still wrong though, and easily proven wrong.

Caregivers bank account, usually.

Or they were in the right place at the right time. Like my girlfriends dads job at Boeing.

Or they found a niche, business or genre, that blew up unexpectedly. Such as McDonalds, Star Wars, Harry Potter, Twilight, etc...

Said niches are now dominated by a small handful of products and have very little room for others to succeed in a similar manner.

Look man... personally I don't think trump had anything to do with conspiring with the ruskies... did he benefit from their meddling? Possibly? Did he actually go back and forth with Putin over ways to help him win the election? I really doubt it... it's More likely that Russia may have wanted Trump in the office over Clinton but that's mostly because Trump didn't have a bone to pick with Russia like Clinton does...

As far as any kind of investigation that's happening as I said before I don't recall a criminal investigation into trump or his team but I do know of the one to investigate Russian meddling...

We should be critical of our elected officials representing us but we should have some solid footing before we go and make up our minds that they're guilty as well...

As for Trump lying about ***it's nothing new and it's mostly just smokescreen ***... get the people talking about anything else... peoples attention spans are short so he bullshits em to send em another way... it's been working so far to a degree but I do wonder about the longevity of a strategy like that...

If it's so easy why don't you actually prove him wrong then? I mean you usually just reply to his post telling him that's he's wrong, give yourself a pat on th back and then wait for him to do it again... I mean you even take the time to change his name in the quote for no good reason other then I guess to fit in telling him he's wrong again? Just seems like you disagree with him but put forth the same amount of evidence for it then claim superiority...

It was never about Trump himself, thats why I say Team Trump, its his campaign staffers that are being investigated. Manafort was working as a foreign agent that made millions while being the Trump campaign manager, Roger Stone was communicating with known hacking groups before the Podesta hack and basically called out the Podesta hack in advance, and Page was really just an "advisor" with previous and continued run ins with the FBI, which he of course can't comment on.

Notice how he just made up that first sentence? Then went to troll mode. Said nothing, as usual. We know the FBI investigation began way before that dossier was even published, it certainly is not and never has been the foundation of the investigations.

And it had nothing to do with his education, skill, and negotiating power?

All of it was luck, or "being in the right place at the right time"?

And none of those examples were because said companies/authors/movie producers had a product that people were willing to buy/consume and had prior skillset, business model, and wherewithal to provide such services? Hell, athletes have specific skills and talent and worked hard to achieve their status.

Only true dominated industries are utilities and insurance, and that's because they are government mandated, not by their own doing.

Companies and businesses come and go all the time. Walmart is not going to last forever.

wait a second... are you contending that jk rowling, writing a wildly popular series of children's books, was based soley on luck, of which there is a finite amount of, and by coming up with HP she somehow lessened the physical amount of this luck in the form of other luck based ideas that are only possible through luck and that's why you aren't successful?

If the FBI had announced its investigation when it started (like it did with Clinton) in July, he probably would not have even been nominated.

Except I do, all the time.

I provide evidence, he doesn't accept it because it doesn't come from Mother Jones or Weekly World News. It doesn't mean I'm wrong and he is right, it means that he is willfully ignorant and wishes to stay that way to keep living in his alternate reality.

or that you can't be in the right place at the right time because that phsyical time and space is already occupied someone more lucky than you?

wow

Wrong again Mr. Wrong Guy.

I'm kindof jealous, that is such a natural talent you have.

you say that like his nomination ever made sense to begin with...

he once accused ted cruz's dad of killing jfk....



and now he's president.

just mull that over a few turns........

No, you don't. Blogs from the federalist are not evidence. Just like nausi posting crap from HotAir are not actual stories.

What the *** are you talking about, Donny !

There's more facts in those analysis than there are coming from NYT and WP.

That's his problem.

He is suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome. No known cure as of yet.

What the *** does anything have to do with Harry Potter, man !

Well, some people are living in a fantasy world.

I believe the word you are looking for is factpinions, in other words, just opinions. Not actual facts. Certainly not evidence of anything.

And thanks for posting the Comey testimony, which he stated that the dossier was just one piece of evidence, not the foundation of the investigation, and the FBI has worked hard to corroborate parts of the dossier, which completely trashes your narrative of the dossier being debunked.

Err....I'm not sure if you purposefully debunked your own point prematurely or are agreeing with me.

Yes, there are opinions in these analysis, but these opinions are based by fact, almost all the time sourced (some analysis aren't, but easily verifiable). Hell, I even post the sources here they use too on occasion.

Unlike you, who neither provide sources for your opinions but also get your "facts" wrong

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How's that criminal investigation going again?

A) I never said it was the foundation. Read again.

B) FBI used the dossier that proved multiple times to be false. Not only was it false, but it was obviously false for anyone with a pulse.

The Senate Committee for the Judiciary is investigating this matter to see if the FBI colluded with the Clinton campaign under the orders of the Obama Administration who used FISA courts to spy on a national citizen (which is highly illegal). You can't get away from that fact, which is also in the analysis you hate so much.