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By fonewear 2017-04-20 10:50:02
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I've been in that van and I didn't get candy...
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By fonewear 2017-04-20 10:51:11
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Sylph.Cherche said: »
TFW people still think bootstraps is the most important factor in financial success.
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By fonewear 2017-04-20 10:52:46
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Trump turned a million into billions what have you done lately ?
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-04-20 10:58:31
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Sylph.Cherche said: »
the most important factor in financial success

oh yes! please enlighten us! oh great ranker of importance....please instruct us with your all powerful ranking ability that we might bask in the glow of your wisdom
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-04-20 11:00:56
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the magnitude of the sarcasm broke my post....
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By fonewear 2017-04-20 11:01:20
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Trump current status hovering over Manhattan !

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By fonewear 2017-04-20 11:02:54
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Ever try to write something so sarcastic that not even you understand it...welcome to my world !
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-04-20 11:05:34
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fonewear said: »
welcome to my world

your world sucks!

/knocks over a big pile of trash


when was the last time you picked up in here!?
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By fonewear 2017-04-20 11:06:37
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
fonewear said: »
welcome to my world

your world sucks!

/knocks over a big pile of trash


when was the last time you picked up in here!?

I'll do it this afternoon !
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By fonewear 2017-04-20 11:07:37
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Sorry forgot to post citation of reference:

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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-04-20 11:11:07
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How about that "SUPER-MIGHTY PREEMPTIVE STRIKE"?

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By Asura.Saevel 2017-04-20 11:13:35
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Sylph.Cherche said: »
TFW people still think bootstraps is the most important factor in financial success.
So, does that mean that success is handed out like candy from the back of a pedophile's van?

They play around with the definition of "success" by using absolute wealth as the quantity of measure instead of relative wealth.

Someone who starts with $50 USD (the clothes on their back) vs someone who starts with $10,000,000.

$50 USD guy works their *** off and by 30 has a wealth of $2,000,000, an increase of several orders of magnitude.

$10M USD guy works a moderate amount and now has a wealth of $13,000,000, a moderate increase of 30%.

Which one was more successful?

Using absolute wealth the $10M guy would be more "successful" because their wealth is bigger, even the absolute increase is bigger. Using relative gains the $50 guy absolutely crushed the $10M guy.

What makes it even more astonishing is that the $10M guy will likely teach his children not to value that wealth very much because he himself doesn't value it as he was born into it and his parents never taught him to work his *** off. His children will barely put any effort and eventually their family will plateau and then start to decay from mismanagement. The only way to protect this would be for one of the older family members to transfer much of the wealth into a trust fund to prevent the kids from mismanaging it, but that also prevents them from growing it.

Now if we take a step back and study the definition of "success" and determine it to mean "substantial increase of standard of living" instead of an absolute "make more money then liberal journalists", then their whole argument falls flat on it's face. Is there a substantial difference in standard of living between 10M USD wealth vs 13M USD wealth? Is there a substantial difference in standard of living between $50 USD wealth and $2M USD wealth?

And thus the "only success because your lucky you unearned privileged white shitlord" declaration falls to pieces.
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By fonewear 2017-04-20 11:13:58
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
How about that "SUPER-MIGHTY PREEMPTIVE STRIKE"?

We could get a page of laughs courtesy of NK.


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By Zerowone 2017-04-20 11:14:09
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Sylph.Cherche said: »
the most important factor in financial success

oh yes! please enlighten us! oh great ranker of importance....please instruct us with your all powerful ranking ability that we might bask in the glow of your wisdom


Exponential Sarcasm!!!!
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By fonewear 2017-04-20 11:15:38
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Some of weren't just educated in sarcasm...we were born into it...
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-04-20 11:40:41
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fonewear said: »
Some of weren't just educated in sarcasm...we were born into it...

Don't have a cow, man.
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By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-04-20 11:43:32
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
We have a sportsball section

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By fonewear 2017-04-20 11:52:50
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Shiva.Shruiken said: »
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We have a sportsball section


We have an anime section too so I guess it balances out...
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By Anna Ruthven 2017-04-20 11:55:29
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We have a sportsball thread that was made to see if anyone would use a sports section. Spoiler: No one really did.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-04-20 12:02:37
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Proof that sarcasm is a mathematical construct. Just look at that curve!

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By fonewear 2017-04-20 12:06:15
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The only math I know is a cheesy pickup line: you plus me = forever.
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By fonewear 2017-04-20 12:07:38
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Actually I prefer: I'm not gay but I'll learn.
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By fonewear 2017-04-20 12:08:04
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-04-20 12:08:40
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Is stochasticity so scary a concept that any implication that randomness probably plays a large part in anyone's life has to immediately be rejected and replaced with the fuzzy platitude that everyone completely controls their destiny?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-20 12:13:07
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Is stochasticity so scary a concept that any implication that randomness probably plays a large part in anyone's life has to immediately be rejected and replaced with the fuzzy platitude that everyone completely controls their destiny?
And yet, you offer no suggestion otherwise.

Or are you saying that success is give out at will by an entity not controlled by the person.

I'm pretty sure your next argument is that success is given by governmental forces and not determined by factors such as "ability" "knowledge" or "skill." Might as well say that unicorns exist while you are at it.
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By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-04-20 12:13:51
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
stochasticity

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By fonewear 2017-04-20 12:18:16
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Is stochasticity so scary a concept that any implication that randomness probably plays a large part in anyone's life has to immediately be rejected and replaced with the fuzzy platitude that everyone completely controls their destiny?
And yet, you offer no suggestion otherwise.

Or are you saying that success is give out at will by an entity not controlled by the person.

I'm pretty sure your next argument is that success is given by governmental forces and not determined by factors such as "ability" "knowledge" or "skill." Might as well say that unicorns exist while you are at it.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2017-04-20 12:21:55
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Is stochasticity so scary a concept that any implication that randomness probably plays a large part in anyone's life has to immediately be rejected and replaced with the fuzzy platitude that everyone completely controls their destiny?

no. but it's the weight that it is often attributed that annoys some of us.

if hard work, dedication and ingenuity have so little to do with it then why doesn't everyone in america drive gold plated bentleys?
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-04-20 12:22:12
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Shiva.Shruiken said: »
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stochasticity

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That was a stochastic response yet not stochastic at the time.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2017-04-20 12:23:38
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
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Is stochasticity so scary a concept that any implication that randomness probably plays a large part in anyone's life has to immediately be rejected and replaced with the fuzzy platitude that everyone completely controls their destiny?

no. but it's the weight that it is often attributed that annoys some of us.

if hard work, dedication and ingenuity have so little to do with it then why doesn't everyone in america drive gold plated bentleys?

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