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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-12 16:05:27
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
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Wapo reporting that there was a FISA warrant issued for team trump last June.

Still no evidence of any wrong doing. What will liberals need to finally admit their golden boy was abusing his power?
No, it wasn't the whole team. It was only Carter Page. And it had nothing to do with election interference.

Do you ever read up? I linked to this story just a bit above.
Then why did they bother?

Wait, don't tell me Obama was dabbing in some McCarthyism there.
You could read the article I linked on the last page and find out.
I did. You should too.

Because you stated the FISA warrant isn't for Russian election interference, but yet, the warrant was because they "thought" he was a Russian plant to interfere with the general election.

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The FBI obtained a secret court order last summer to monitor the communications of Carter Page, an adviser to then-candidate Donald Trump, because the government had reason to believe Page was acting as a Russian agent, The Washington Post reported Tuesday.

Then again, Obama admin thinks that every conservative is a Russian agent, so there you go.

Wouldn't you think that they would need a better excuse for that to investigate a political opponent and his team?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-04-12 16:05:41
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No.

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The FBI obtained a secret court order last summer to monitor the communications of Carter Page, an adviser to then-candidate Donald Trump, because the government had reason to believe Page was acting as a Russian agent, The Washington Post reported Tuesday.
If you follow the link it goes deeper into the whys of it.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-04-12 16:09:01
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Now I guess the FISA court is on the list of things out to get conservatives.
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By Shiva.Shruiken 2017-04-12 16:31:02
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-12 16:33:16
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
No.

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The FBI obtained a secret court order last summer to monitor the communications of Carter Page, an adviser to then-candidate Donald Trump, because the government had reason to believe Page was acting as a Russian agent, The Washington Post reported Tuesday.
If you follow the link it goes deeper into the whys of it.
Giving speeches to Russian economic schools do not make one a spy. Or give the Obama administration reason to believe he was one.

Buying vodka does not make a Russian agent, regardless of what the libs think.
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By fonewear 2017-04-12 16:39:32
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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No.

First paragraph:
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The FBI obtained a secret court order last summer to monitor the communications of Carter Page, an adviser to then-candidate Donald Trump, because the government had reason to believe Page was acting as a Russian agent, The Washington Post reported Tuesday.
If you follow the link it goes deeper into the whys of it.
Giving speeches to Russian economic schools do not make one a spy. Or give the Obama administration reason to believe he was one.

Buying vodka does not make a Russian agent, regardless of what the libs think.

Depends on how much vodka you buy...
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-04-12 16:40:00
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
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Giving speeches to Russian economic schools do not make one a spy. Or give the Obama administration reason to believe he was one.

Buying vodka does not make a Russian agent, regardless of what the libs think.
No, but talking to a known Russian intelligence agent is enough to get a FISA warrant it seems. I wonder why?
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By fonewear 2017-04-12 16:40:57
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Shiva.Shruiken said: »

I could go for a Pepsi and a black lives matter rally !
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-04-12 16:46:07
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Screwed up thr formating on THAT....
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-12 16:57:53
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Giving speeches to Russian economic schools do not make one a spy. Or give the Obama administration reason to believe he was one.

Buying vodka does not make a Russian agent, regardless of what the libs think.
No, but talking to a known Russian intelligence agent is enough to get a FISA warrant it seems. I wonder why?
Did he talk to stated, assumed agent knowing that he is or could possibly be a Russian agent? Did he talk to stated, assumed agent to pass on "super secret" information, such as the size of Trump's hands?

Is there any evidence stating or even implying such collusion? All the warrant apparently infers is a possible contact. It doesn't exactly go into detail, just possible collusion, which apparently is good enough to spy on a political candidate and his team, according to the Obama administration.

No offence, but I believe this analysis more than yours.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-12 16:59:47
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Another thing: Page wasn't even part of Trump's team, just an informal adviser at best.

This seems like a backdoor investigation where Trump and his team was the real targets. Pick somebody who talked to a possible Russian Agent within his lifetime, and use him as an excuse to spy on Trump.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-04-12 17:03:55
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Asking for evidence in an ongoing investigation is like expecting HBO to release Game of Thrones scenes as they film them.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-12 17:04:59
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Asking for evidence in an ongoing investigation is like expecting HBO to release Game of Thrones scenes as they film them.
Having evidence of possible collusion with Russians is required to issue a warrant to spy on an American citizen.

Again, buying vodka does not make a Russian agent.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-12 17:08:00
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I mean, if I really wanted to, I could request the FISA to spy on everyone here because Guccifer 2.0 uses the internet to post anti-American rhetoric. That's how broad that warrant is. Or at least, how broad that warrant was published by WP.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-04-12 17:12:31
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No warrant was published. I have no idea why you think you know any details beyond the few leaks that have come out so far.
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By fonewear 2017-04-12 17:14:14
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Why do you need a FISA warrant just sign up for Google or Facebook you get spied on 24/7 already.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-12 17:50:58
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
No warrant was published. I have no idea why you think you know any details beyond the few leaks that have come out so far.
So, either the WP lied about the whole warrant and the details of the warrant, or you are just denying the whole thing.

Which is it?
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By fonewear 2017-04-12 17:56:54
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Washington Post is run by that bozo Jeff Bezos so I wouldn't trust him. He is probably a crazy liberal.
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By fonewear 2017-04-12 18:02:08
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I'm no saying the WP is facts I don't like but it is so biased they are up their own ***.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-04-12 18:31:31
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Which is it?
The one where you commented on a story you hadn't read.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-04-12 21:03:45
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Russian collusion is that last, mostly imaginary string separating Democrats from the harsh reality that they lost a completely legitimate election to an Oompa Loompa and have nobody to blame but themselves.

They really, really need that string.
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By Blazed1979 2017-04-13 05:33:11
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http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/politics/malala-parliament-address-citizenship-1.4067088



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Malala Yousafzai called on Canada to play a leadership role in promoting education for girls and refugees around the world Wednesday after becoming an honorary Canadian citizen.

In a historic address to Parliament, the Nobel Peace Prize recipient and human rights activist heaped praise on Canada for its commitment to helping refugees, advancing women's rights and working for world peace.

She urged Canada to use its influence on the world stage and its G7 presidency to push for more education funding for girls and child refugees internationally.

"If Canada leads, the world will follow," she said to repeated roaring applause and standing ovations in a packed House of Commons.
That pics looks like something from Hogwarts.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2017-04-13 06:07:50
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WP didn't lie about the details, but they are using the ignorance of people to push their narrative.

FISA warrants are not hard to get. Domestic criminal warrants need actual evidence to get. WP is trying to piggyback onto that and suggesting that because the warrant was issued it means something.

Obama had nothing, they were desperate to be able to spy on Trump. So much so that they had to get a FISA warrant on someone who never actually met with him.

This is huge.
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By fonewear 2017-04-13 07:20:15
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I could go for a Pepsi and a black lives matter rally !
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-13 08:22:03
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Which is it?
The one where you commented on a story you hadn't read.
So, you are denying the whole thing.

Got it.
 
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-04-13 08:51:32
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How.......appropriate and accurate.....
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Recycled jokes are recycled

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