Random Pish-Posh And Dribblety-Poop #12

Salt Lake City, Utah (CNN)Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are tied in Utah, according to a new poll released on Wednesday.

The Y2 Analytics poll, published first by Mormon church-owned Deseret News, found both Clinton and Trump at 26% among likely Utah voters, with independent Evan McMullin at 22% and Libertarian Gary Johnson at 14%.

The poll is striking, given Utah is a reliably Republican state that has not voted for a Democrat since Lyndon Johnson in 1964, but comes after Clinton's campaign has mounted a concerted effort to win the Beehive State by driving a wedge between the Republican nominee and Mormon voters.

McMullin, a Mormon, was a late entrant to the presidential race and has focused on Utah, where he was born. It's one of the few handful of states where the former CIA employee will be on the ballot in November....

Its no surprise the Mormons aren't big fans of the religious persecution that Trump believes in.

Its not a stretch. Read the article maybe? Its well known that Mormons don't like religious oppression given their chronicled history of being on the receiving end of it. This latest poll isn't new, Trump has been struggling there for a while.

Remember he finished a distant 3rd in the Utah primaries.

So you run out of intelligent things to say often, huh?

Going to get a bit nit-picky here.

US population = 324,692,000 (this afternoon)
Eligible voters = 225,778,000 (projected for this election)
Total number of Americans eligible to vote 218,959,000 (alternate data set)
Total number of Americans registered to vote 146,311,000 (same alternate data set)
35% of registered voters identify with the Democratic Party, 28% with the Republican Party and 33% as independents. (2012 figures)
All registered voters = 45% of the population. All registered republicans = 12.6 of the population.

Given that not all republicans support the Donald, and some independents and non voters do, at BEST I am calling 8% of the population that. That's a LONG way from your "quarter of the nation."

Were there any falsehoods in the opinion piece? Trump is on the record in wanting to ban Muslims. Sure, he has "softened" on the issue because he has been told to, but it would not appear as if it has done him any good. The fact is Trump is not ahead in Utah, didn't do well in the primaries at all, and given his recent meltdowns, it looks like he is going to lose it.

Trump isn't doing great here and that much is clear, but you're trying to pin it down with a reason that's basically irrelevant.

It's not a matter of whether or not the piece was wrong, it's a matter of whether or not it's something that the voters actually care about. Trump isn't doing great here and that much is clear, but you're trying to pin it down with a reason that's basically irrelevant.

Aside from that, this is just one poll and as far as I can tell the company doesn't have much of a track record to trace aside from being 16 points off in the primary poll.

Were there any falsehoods in the opinion piece? Trump is on the record in wanting to ban Muslims. Sure, he has "softened" on the issue because he has been told to, but it would not appear as if it has done him any good. The fact is Trump is not ahead in Utah, didn't do well in the primaries at all, and given his recent meltdowns, it looks like he is going to lose it.

A cousin of mine down in Pennsylvania, married himself a nice formerly Amish girl... her family refuses to vote for Trump because his very existence goes against core Amish beliefs in hard work, self-sacrifice, and leading a clean life without profanity, alcohol, etc. So it's not just the Mormons he's not doing well with.

I'm not inclined to believe that Trump's Muslim ban is not a huge turnoff to the Mormon electorate, given how religious freedom is a pillar of their society and how poorly he has performed not just in Utah but in other Mormon pockets in states like Nevada and Idaho. I'm sure the violence against women and profanity laced tirades are also a factor but to call the Muslim ban "irrelevant" is a huge stretch.

By the sounds of it, they won't vote period.

Like anyone can even allude that Clinton lives a life of "hard work, self-sacrifice, and leading a clean life without profanity."

She really doesn't come off as lazy, neither does trump. I would give them both "hard working" actually.

On this eventful afternoon, the internet has turned its watchful gaze towards the 19th Amendment, which grants women the right to vote. Part of the buzz is due to Eric Trump sending out a Wednesday campaign email that contained a rather suggestive map. His text read, in part, “The mainstream media are doing everything they can to prop up Crooked Hillary and downplay the incredible Donald Trump surge happening across the nation.” He added a map, which Nate Silver of Five Thirty Eight tweeted on Tuesday. The map shows what polls suggest the election results would be if only men voted.

Let’s just say there are a few awful tweets going down right now. It’s a vocal minority, but there are references about women not fighting but “nagging” to secure their right to vote. And to be certain, some of the horrible tweets may be jokes, but collectively, there’s a trend on Twitter that’s fueled by disbelief that anyone would want to repeal the 19th Amendment. And folks like George Takei are addressing the matter head on.