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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-10-07 14:11:19
Its ok though, I'm unintellectual and wrong because I don't agree with you. Now you are getting it!
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By eliroo 2016-10-07 14:11:30
Intellectual debates at their finest.
Am I debating with a person who earnestly wants to find the truth or with a high school girl who thinks her initial thoughts and formed opinions are always correct?
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-10-07 14:11:43
Last page was kinda rapey.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-10-07 14:13:13
You think all cultures share the same values as yours? Once again you pull assumptions out of your ***. You really need to stop doing that.
You are so obsessed with being politically correct according to our culture that you completely ignore aspects of other cultures. This is a very stupid sentence that is not even correct.
I insist you are very ignorant if you think rape is a problem of syrian, or muslim culture. Are you aware that some people from other cultures tend to think it's the west that has a rape culture? It's a humanitarian global problem, a huge and diffused one too.
Once again you pull assumptions out of your ***. You really need to stop doing that.
Rape isn't a problem with their culture, in some forms it is socially acceptable.
Here, just a single article I know from maybe a particularly bias website but still one none-the-less about a testimony from a syrian (dated 2012) - http://www.womenundersiegeproject.org/blog/entry/syrian-american-tells-UN-cultural-reasons-why-rape-in-syria-may-be-underrep
Get a grip of reality. You are still trying to be politically correct here without addressing others cultures.
It's a humanitarian global problem, a huge and diffused one too.
I'm not downplaying that its a problem but with everyone afraid of cultural appropriation and afraid of being politically incorrect it has hard to do much. How do we fix a problem that people are afraid to address? This article has to do with the war going on there now and the Syrian government attempting to instill fear into the people... It's all pretty *** disgusting but it does nothing to back up your point that the people that are migrating from Syria act like this... It's more making a point that they're trying to get away from ***like this... It nowhere states it's culturally acceptable to rape women but it does talk about how shitty the government forces are treating it's people...
I don't get this whole fear mongering on rape thing... I mean people seem to turn a blind eye to the big problem we already have and some even go as far to victim shame and it's also said to be under reported in the US as well...
its kinda funny too that people make claims like this and then say that we can't even verify who people are and whatnot but we're pretty sure at least three of them are bad apples! So don't let anyone in!
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-10-07 14:13:37
Look up his comments on Mexicans. Look at how he's categorized Muslims. Look at how he attributes the Democratic black voter base to welfare dependence.
Why not give me quotes not pulled out of context or warped to prove a point? Every time I've heard these arguments it has either been:
A. Taken out of context.
B. Warped to fit a narrative
C. From several years ago
D. From an un-creditable source who is usually upset at Trump for some reasn or another.
I even linked an article that explained how most of these quotes are taken out of context or wrong. Has he said some terrible things? Yes and probably more then we know about, but do you really think Hillary doesn't say horrible things? So you criticize others for coming to Hilary's rescue and making excuses for her then you come and making excuses for Donald and your best one is well he might say some bad things but you think Hillary doesn't either?
Where's Rav when you need him to call someone a hypocrite?! A) Congratulations for discovering the quote feature.
B) He didn't say anything hypocritical..... I quite literally used the quote button on the previous page so you're late to the party... Look at you taking little shots here even when you said you don't insult people earlier today...
If you think hes not being hypocritical then you probably don't understand what the word means... I thought Rav was the only one that didn't...
And here we see Flavin calling out King for taking little shots while simultaneously taking shots at someone who isn't even in the quote train.
Look Flavin, your serious case of cognitive dissonance has no impact on me, so there's no need to project. You're also the absolute wrong person to accuse another of having a poor grasp of the English language. Do you even know how to ellipsis, bro?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-10-07 14:14:10
Intellectual debates at their finest.
Am I debating with a person who earnestly wants to find the truth or with a high school girl who thinks her initial thoughts and formed opinions are always correct? I rolled my eyes and moved on because it was a one on one bickering, which is against the rules.
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By eliroo 2016-10-07 14:15:28
Yea, a little bit too much rapey.
Can we just get along and bash right wing conspiracy theorist who think global warming is a hoax?
Or we can share some of the blame with Al Gore for making a serious issue into a polical ploy?
Or how about we blame the person who decided climate change should be called Global Warming? Literally every winter "Oh its cold, Global warming is a hoax"
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-10-07 14:18:06
Can we just get along and bash right wing conspiracy theorist who think global warming is a hoax? Isn't that what this section is for?
Or we can share some of the blame with Al Gore for making a serious issue into a political ploy? Some people would take that as a personal attack.
Or how about we blame the person who decided climate change should be called Global Warming? Literally every winter "Oh its cold, Global warming is a hoax" I prefer "Global Eventual Warming"
Mind you, the worst projections show that the average temperature will increase by 1 degree in 100+ years.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-10-07 14:18:28
He has a few more of plans outlined out. Agree with them or not, they are there and in just as much detail as Hillary's.
This really just proves my point that you never, ever consider the oppositions argument. You assume I haven't read those already. The lack of substantive policy actions is readily apparent. "Ensure this" and "ensure that" with no foreseeable indication on implementation. They're also outdated in that some of what's written has been contradicted by Trump himself. The immigration policy doesn't reflect his more recent statements that he'll continue with Obama's current policy on deportation (unless that's changed again recently which is a distinct possibility). No candidate is going to have everything perfectly spelled out, but the difference in platforms is like the difference between some kid cramming for his final exam and another kid who's been studying all semester.
And Mexico paying for a wall isn't a plan no matter how many bullet points you write. At best it's just wishful fantasy.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-10-07 14:18:28
Intellectual debates at their finest.
Am I debating with a person who earnestly wants to find the truth or with a high school girl who thinks her initial thoughts and formed opinions are always correct? I rolled my eyes and moved on because it was a one on one bickering, which is against the rules.
Yes it needs be 2 on 1. Like Flavin and crew...
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-10-07 14:19:38
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-10-07 14:20:18
I'm really not enhralled by the idea of having a threesome with any of the posters of this section...
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2016-10-07 14:21:03
In comes grammar nazi Rav... You aren't the first and you probably won't be the last to make the completely nonsensical and dumb argument against my use of ellipsis but feel free to wast your time... It's not a poor grasp of the English language I accused him of it was his understanding of a single word... Not surprising you didn't comprehend that though lol... Should I wait for you to try and come after me for using lol now too?
The point being that KN puts himself out there as someone who does not insult others... Pointing out his immediate hypocrisy wasn't all that difficult... I don't make the same claim nor do I claim to be innocent or whine like little children about how it's not fair when I get banned... You guys want to project the image like your victims or something and don't take part in the ape like ***throwing festival but it's laughable cuz you're knee deep in it...
Flail around more it amuses me!
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-10-07 14:21:12
well...didn't see that coming.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-10-07 14:22:52
Also there are a couple of conservative posters here whom I at least respect intellectually, as well as some leftists which I think are complete idiots, that must sound incredible to some here. But I've been warned about making names before, so I can't.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-10-07 14:25:07
You too huh? Yeah all the thin skinned complaints ruin the funsies.
Also: https://americanlookout.com/this-twitter-account-pretending-to-be-hillarys-pr-team-will-crack-you-up/
Satire is funny especially when people think it's real.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-10-07 14:25:22
In comes grammar nazi Rav... You aren't the first and you probably won't be the last to make the completely nonsensical and dumb argument against my use of ellipsis but feel free to wast your time... It's not a poor grasp of the English language I accused him of it was his understanding of a single word... Not surprising you didn't comprehend that though lol... Should I wait for you to try and come after me for using lol now too?
The point being that KN puts himself out there as someone who does not insult others... Pointing out his immediate hypocrisy wasn't all that difficult... I don't make the same claim nor do I claim to be innocent or whine like little children about how it's not fair when I get banned... You guys want to project the image like your victims or something and don't take part in the ape like ***throwing festival but it's laughable cuz you're knee deep in it...
Flail around more it amuses me!
It's called a period. Almost every use of ellipsis could be replaced by a single period. You dragged me into that conversation for no good reason, so I'm going to call you out for stupid crap too. Not to mention the fact that you're using the word "hypocrisy" in the exact same way that I do, so apparently you don't understand the word either. Bravo.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-10-07 14:26:45
HOW DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTERS ATTACK JOURNALISTS
Quote: Shortly after I wrote an article for Newsweek about how Donald Trump’s business interests could undermine national security should he be elected president, one of his supporters assaulted me. He used the internet to do it.
Throughout my adulthood, I have never made a secret of the fact that I have epilepsy. It’s better controlled now than it has been during other parts of my life, but not completely—my neurologist tells me I have intractable epilepsy, meaning treatment will never bring the condition fully under control. I know how people—particularly children—with seizures suffer when uninformed idiots suggest they should impose limits of their lives or quell their aspirations. So when Fox News blowhard and college dropout Sean Hannity practically drooled in delight this election season as he falsely proclaimed that Hillary Clinton suffered from seizures based on her acting goofy in a short video clip, it infuriated me. I knew how his message would be heard—people with seizures look ridiculous, they should be afraid of others laughing at them, they should listen to the voices telling them they can’t do what they want (even be president). And so I raged at Hannity in the pages of Newsweek, on cable television news shows and on Twitter.
A couple of weeks later, after my article about how Trump’s business interests would create a conflict of unprecedented proportions, I received a tweet from someone with the twitter handle “Mike's Deplorable AF.” Like many Trump supporters, he has chosen to identify himself as deplorable to mock the label once used by Clinton to describe the racists, neo-Nazis, homophobes and like who have crawled out of the sewer to cheer for the Republican nominee. Mike, however, is indeed deplorable.
In his tweet, which has since been deleted, Mike made mention of my seizures and included a small video. It contained images of Pepe the Frog, a cartoon character that has been identified by the Anti-Defamation League as a hate symbol. I was carrying my iPad, looking at the still image on the video and, without thinking, touched the PLAY button.
The video was some sort of strobe light, with flashing circles and images of Pepe flying toward the screen. It’s what’s called epileptogenic—something that triggers seizures. Fortunately, since I was standing, I simply dropped my iPad to the ground the second I realized what Mike had done. It landed face down on the bathroom floor.
The deplorables are real. The deplorables are dangerous.
Because I have written critically about Trump, I have received innumerable death threats, sometimes just general invocations that I should die, sometimes more specific threats that I should be shot or “lynched,” as one Trump fan wrote. I have been called “kike,” “Jew” and “anti-American Zionist,” even though I’m Episcopalian with a Jewish father (as if that makes a difference). I have received video cartoons that look like they are from Nazi Germany of hook-nosed men dressed in Jewish garb rubbing their hands greedily over piles of money. I have been told to go back where I came from, whatever that means. I have been called “***,” “pedo,” and once—in an email that made no sense—“***-lover.” One Trump fan mentioned he knew which schools my children attended, and correctly named them. Topping it off, some Trump fans have even gone after one of my sons online, although he knew enough to immediately block them.
My family has been through this before—it is sometimes a consequence of writing about controversial topics—but this is the first time we have discussed whether I should continue investigating an issue. All of them agreed I should stay on this story— since Trump won’t release much information about himself, digging up everything that can be found before the election is important for the country. But why is this even a discussion? We do not live in a third-world nation where journalists who report unpleasant realities are in danger. While I believe that most of these threats—except for Mike’s—are from internet blowhards, why does my family even have to wonder about this? And why am I convinced that, just by writing this article, Mike will get lots of new Twitter followers and praise from profoundly evil people?
I am far from the only journalist exposed to the bottom-feeders among Trump supporters who traffic in violence, threats, racism and anti-Semitism. In a tweet, Charles Blow, an African-American columnist for The New York Times who has been harshly critical of Trump both in the newspaper and on television, told me he is bombarded with racist fury through email. Katy Tur of NBC reported in an article in Marie Claire that she had to be escorted out of a Trump rally in December by Secret Service to protect her from raging Trump supporters who had sicced on her by their candidate. She was also the primary subject of a death threat two weeks later on Twitter.
“MAYBE A FEW JOURNALISTS DO NEED TO BE WHACKED,” the tweet from someone with the handle GuyScott33 read. “MAYBE THEN THEYD STOP BEI[N]G BIASED HACKS. KILL EM ALL STARTING W/ KATY TUR.”
There are more. According to The Daily Beast, Bethany Mandel, a conservative essayist who has written about her opposition to Trump, had been so violently attacked on social media that she felt compelled to purchase a gun for protection. Jeffrey Goldberg, national correspondent for The Atlantic, received an email telling him he would be sent to “a camp” when Trump wins. After she published an article in GQ about Melania Trump, Julia Ioffe, a Jewish journalist, received death threats by phone and email, and tweets showing vile images such as an anti-Semitic caricature of a Jewish man on his knees being shot in the back of the head; she filed a police report. Jonathan Weisman, deputy Washington editor of The New York Times, tweeted a link to a Washington Post opinion piece that was harshly critical of the Trump phenomenon. The vicious attacks on Weisman, who is Jewish, came quickly.
“Get used to it you *** kike,’’ tweeted one of the deplorables who goes by the handle “deplorable basket weave.” “You people will be made to pay for the violence and fraud you've committed against us.”
This is not an unavoidable consequence of a contentious political campaign. This is exceptional, a circumstance brought about by the gutter rants of Donald Trump and his refusal to condemn the racists, neo-Nazis and other deplorables who support him. That our country has reached this point, where the line between modern American political supporters and Hitler’s brownshirts is becoming thinner by the day, is unacceptable. That GOP candidates have stood by and allowed this ugliness to flourish without aggressively condemning their candidate for what he has set loose, simply because they are seeking re-election or fear losing their jobs at the mid-terms, will stain the Republican Party for decades.
I write this knowing that it will spur more vile and violent online attacks on me. I have warned my children and my wife to be extra careful. And now that I have revealed how easy it is to inflict an injury on me, until this election is over, I will not be pushing PLAY on any unsolicited video I receive. It’s simply too dangerous. Ok, reading the entire article, one has to wonder: Is it really just Trump supporters who do this, as the author alluded, or is there a faint possibility that this is also done by liberals/democrats/Clinton supporters also?
Also, could it be said that both sides constantly attack one another on a personal level? I think we should all be glad (and worried) that this has not reached beyond the internet and had Clinton supporters attack/murder Trump supporters and visa versa....yet.
This website is a good indication of such behavior, although forum rules (are supposed to) prevent personal attacks as ones described in the article.
This isn't the first time an outspoken journalist received death threats. And it won't be the last time either.
By eliroo 2016-10-07 14:26:46
He has a few more of plans outlined out. Agree with them or not, they are there and in just as much detail as Hillary's.
This really just proves my point that you never, ever consider the oppositions argument. You assume I haven't read those already. The lack of substantive policy actions is readily apparent. "Ensure this" and "ensure that" with no foreseeable indication on implementation. They're also outdated in that some of what's written has been contradicted by Trump himself. The immigration policy doesn't reflect his more recent statements that he'll continue with Obama's current policy on deportation (unless that's changed again recently which is a distinct possibility). No candidate is going to have everything perfectly spelled out, but the difference in platforms is like the difference between some kid cramming for his final exam and another kid who's been studying all semester.
And Mexico paying for a wall isn't a plan no matter how many bullet points you write. At best it's just wishful fantasy.
I apologize, I assumed you did because you said he didn't have any plans.
A better explanation is that you just don't agree with his plans.
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By Putin On'the'ritz 2016-10-07 14:27:48
Oh hey, I have a minute, let's see how the forums are doing
Last page was kinda rapey.
/reads last two pages
Keep up the good work, y'all
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-10-07 14:28:28

Feels appropriate.
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By eliroo 2016-10-07 14:30:56
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I rolled my eyes and moved on because it was a one on one bickering, which is against the rules.
I actually value your opinions even if I don't agree with all of them.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-10-07 14:32:37
I apologize, I assumed you did because you said he didn't have any plans.
A better explanation is that you just don't agree with his plans. Which is exactly what I said:
And his policy ideas, refusal to provide tenable platform specifics My original post said he didn't provide tenable specifics.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-10-07 14:32:43
The point being that KN puts himself out there as someone who does not insult others... Still haven't seen you prove that.
Pointing out his immediate hypocrisy wasn't all that difficult... Also...still haven't seen you show that.
I don't make the same claim nor do I claim to be innocent or whine like little children about how it's not fair when I get banned... Ok, here is a fine example of "hypocrisy."
Your whole argument about me is that I, to you, said that I don't insult others. That makes you the apparent one who, in your mind, don't insult others, but I do.
The hypocrisy part is when you insult me while applying the notion that you don't insult people.
Now that you have a good example of what the term "hypocrisy" means, can you point to the class where the man touched you on the doll where eliroo's hypocrisy is?
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-10-07 14:33:59

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This is how I envisioned Rooks face when he back read.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-10-07 14:34:09
Putin On'the'ritz said: »Oh hey, I have a minute, let's see how the forums are doing
Last page was kinda rapey.
/reads last two pages
Keep up the good work, y'all Now now, there's nobody sitting on that flaming pile of swinging tire.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-10-07 14:36:17
A better explanation is that you just don't agree with his plans.
His "plans" all have a "hastily scrawled on a bar napkin during a bender" feel to them....and I like them.
How is mexico going to pay for the wall? Tarrifs? Flat import tax? Random purchase orderless invoice adressed to the president of Mexico?
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-10-07 14:36:42
Or how about we blame the person who decided climate change should be called Global Warming? Those are two different terms describing different phenomena.
Mind you, the worst projections show that the average temperature will increase by 1 degree in 100+ years. You just made this up. Why would you do that?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-10-07 14:39:39
You just made this up. Why would you do that? It's called an "exaggeration" with a side of "satire"
Come on, you claim to be smart, at least show it!
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