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Am I the only one who despises Domain Invasion?
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 Phoenix.Demonjustin
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By Phoenix.Demonjustin 2016-07-06 20:24:51
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I mean, I hate this content with a fking passion. No parties, Trusts are better. Few people seem to do it. The NMs are ***to solo because of things like Horrid Roar. The Reisenjima mob spams AoE sleep so unless you've a ton of people fighting it, enjoy being asleep 100% of he time.

I can't stand this ****, but I also can't complain about it on the OF due to my perma-ban from years ago. Just want to know if I'm alone in my hatred of it.
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By Cerberus.Jiko 2016-07-06 20:35:02
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I hate the fact that nobody does it, but the benefits are nice. I wish they would lower the requirements for vorseals due to the fact people aren't doing them, but can't have everything.
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By Pantafernando 2016-07-06 20:36:35
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At least its better than wk was first time it was released.

I just hate being one shooted before even getting close to see him.
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By Asura.Saevel 2016-07-06 20:37:16
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Sleepga Sleepga Sleepga Terror Terror Dispel Terror Sleepga Dispel

I hate that fight without a GEO doing vex.
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By Phoenix.Erics 2016-07-06 20:43:13
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ive soloed it on blm it aint bad even when he spawned 10 adds instead of the one now.Pop manawall and aja them down or just keep phal/stoneskin up when it isnt and aja>sleep>aja I resist sleep most of the time and if i dont, yoran does.
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By Cerberus.Jiko 2016-07-06 20:49:03
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Not all of us have Blm level'd/geared. But glad to see you're able to get this ***done.
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By Asura.Diavos 2016-07-06 22:26:18
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Domain Invasion's one of those aspects of FFXI that probably made a lot of sense to the devs when it was originally implemented, but sure as hell doesn't now that so few people are participating. It's in need of tweaking and they seem to understand that given the recent campaigns.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2016-07-06 22:38:51
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Cerberus.Jiko said: »
Not all of us have Blm level'd/geared. But glad to see you're able to get this ***done.
It should be doable on at least a few other jobs, though I can't say for sure as I've never bothered trying with less than two (myself+GEO alt). If you can get a few people together then it goes by a lot faster, and there are probably enough people around who need vorseals and/or beads to swing that if you make an effort.

Gregale Wing's massive range is dumb though, and bad luck with that can easily shut people down before they're even able to engage. Full dispels are also very annoying.
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By Asura.Azriel 2016-07-06 22:43:50
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Come to Asura' ;D
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By Asura.Saevel 2016-07-06 22:45:50
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Cerberus.Jiko said: »
Not all of us have Blm level'd/geared. But glad to see you're able to get this ***done.
It should be doable on at least a few other jobs, though I can't say for sure as I've never bothered trying with less than two (myself+GEO alt). If you can get a few people together then it goes by a lot faster, and there are probably enough people around who need vorseals and/or beads to swing that if you make an effort.

Gregale Wing's massive range is dumb though, and bad luck with that can easily shut people down before they're even able to engage. Full dispels are also very annoying.

I can deal with both of those, it's the 55 second terror that I absolutely hate. I end up tanking no matter what I do, so it's a constant terror lock and it's total ***. 3/5th of the time I'm terrorized on those.
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By Sylph.Braden 2016-07-06 22:53:54
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go for the ***, Spike Flail ain't that bad
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By Blazed1979 2016-07-06 23:11:02
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Phoenix.Demonjustin said: »
I mean, I hate this content with a fking passion. No parties, Trusts are better. Few people seem to do it. The NMs are ***to solo because of things like Horrid Roar. The Reisenjima mob spams AoE sleep so unless you've a ton of people fighting it, enjoy being asleep 100% of he time.

I can't stand this ****, but I also can't complain about it on the OF due to my perma-ban from years ago. Just want to know if I'm alone in my hatred of it.

You must be new to FFXI. We've had content that makes Domain Invasion look good.

I remember the first Besieged, all 5FPS of it.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2016-07-06 23:24:05
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Indi-vex takes away the danger as it makes sleepga not land and terror is usually 15-30s instead of full duration. This is why when people are asked what job to play they're always told to go GEO. Make people come GEO to this stuff.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2016-07-06 23:47:30
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Asura.Saevel said: »
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Cerberus.Jiko said: »
Not all of us have Blm level'd/geared. But glad to see you're able to get this ***done.
It should be doable on at least a few other jobs, though I can't say for sure as I've never bothered trying with less than two (myself+GEO alt). If you can get a few people together then it goes by a lot faster, and there are probably enough people around who need vorseals and/or beads to swing that if you make an effort.

Gregale Wing's massive range is dumb though, and bad luck with that can easily shut people down before they're even able to engage. Full dispels are also very annoying.

I can deal with both of those, it's the 55 second terror that I absolutely hate. I end up tanking no matter what I do, so it's a constant terror lock and it's total ***. 3/5th of the time I'm terrorized on those.
Yeah, it's a struggle if you're short on manpower. If I'm 2boxing I'll set up two trust parties with August in both. It doesn't solve the problem by any means, but it's enough that I'm not terrored fulltime. The more people that can bounce hate around, the better. If there's more people around I usually get terrored anyway, but at least it'll die faster.
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By Fenrir.Svens 2016-07-06 23:58:04
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Sylph.Braden said: »
It's manageable with 2 people, go for the ***, Spike Flail ain't that bad
Combine this with Nightfyre's setup of BLU+GEO and you can duo all 3 dragons pretty easily, although Azi is still a pain with hundred fist enfire on top of spike flail. Just be careful when other players start joining, as anyone not on their butts will cause them to also terror and dispel instead of just flailing and winging.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2016-07-07 00:08:44
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I might be (probably am) weird here, but I've never actually done a flail strat on the wyrms. Thinking about it there's not too much to worry about since you can resummon trusts, but the couple of times I had them start flailing (usually from draw-in on trusts) I wasn't entirely comfortable with it and opted to reposition.

Azi HF isn't too bad, turtle up and cure bomb til it's over. Capped +cure received helps a bit but probably isn't necessary.
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By Asura.Sechs 2016-07-07 01:20:36
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Domain Invasion was such a poorly thought event in my opinion.
Nothing like WKR which were moderately fun back in the days. There were some drawbacks there as well but overall I kinda enjoyed WKRs, I can hardly see Domain Invasion being entertaining for anyone.

They chose to take 3 old Wyrms which by itself is a good thing, but they didn't think how annoying keeping all their old moves would be for what was supposed to be an Escha-version WKR.

And let's not talk about the adds and how much they can *** you up in an event where you're bound to either have too many people (not allowing you to use strategies involving Crowd Control) or not enough people with the right jobs (meaning no way to AoE them down fast).

You can get Terrored, all your buffs stripped, Charmed, they can fly and last but not least there's Spike Flail.
I mean, seriously? How did they even think that could've possibly evolved into an entertaining low tier event for players?
Who the *** is behind game-design when they make these choices?

/rant over
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2016-07-07 02:14:31
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
I might be (probably am) weird here, but I've never actually done a flail strat on the wyrms. Thinking about it there's not too much to worry about since you can resummon trusts, but the couple of times I had them start flailing (usually from draw-in on trusts) I wasn't entirely comfortable with it and opted to reposition.
I mostly just feel guilty when it starts killing other people.
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By Sylph.Oraen 2016-07-07 02:15:43
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That's the highlight of Domain Invasion for me. I might be a ***.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2016-07-07 02:18:36
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I have no guilt on Quetz if I kill people from Charm at least. I'm even capable of sleeping myself if I really wanted to, but it's too fun killing people from Charm. Spike Flail tends to kill everyone that isn't me, though.
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By Sylph.Oraen 2016-07-07 02:21:37
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Actually, you're right. Charm kills are the best. I honestly don't see many people die to spike flail at all. With tons of AoE heals from trusts that hit everybody, it might actually be the safest and least amount of hassle strategy for them.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2016-07-07 02:33:38
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People throw a tantrum if you flail on this server, lol. Found it convenient to wake up from my nap and see this in my log. Only the first line is relevant but I found all 4 lines entertaining.

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By Asura.Raelia 2016-07-07 02:44:17
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Sylph.Oraen said: »
With tons of AoE heals from trusts that hit everybody, it might actually be the safest and least amount of hassle strategy for them.
Except for, y'know, being the #1 fastest way to wipe out everyone's trusts.
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By Cerberus.Jiko 2016-07-07 03:40:34
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I forgot FFXI has turned into a single-player MMO.

Brb, making 3 more accounts.
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By Asura.Sechs 2016-07-07 03:58:28
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Sylph.Oraen said: »
Actually, you're right. Charm kills are the best. I honestly don't see many people die to spike flail at all. With tons of AoE heals from trusts that hit everybody, it might actually be the safest and least amount of hassle strategy for them.
Sadly flails kill a lot.
I mean, when people start flailing and we still manage to kill the dragon is no big deal.

But more often than not, at least on Asura, when those spammed Flails start you can't keep up with the Trusts, especially if the HP+ campaign isn't up, and then adds starts aoeing and an AoE spell from the Dragon with Vex down and blahblah, ***hits the fan, everybody dies and you have to HP.

Happened so often to me, especially on Azi Dahaka.
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By Asura.Masrur 2016-07-07 05:38:50
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The rewards are nice, the tiers of required kills to upgrade those core vorseals is.... It's a pain in the butt event that people rarely do.

What's more annoying is how slow SE react to flop events, it's like they're oblivious to the flaws and the floppage.

Let it flop, let it flop
Don't care if our customers throw a strop
Let it flop, let it flooooooppppppp.
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By Lakshmi.Jutubyaa 2016-07-07 06:12:06
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Asura.Masrur said: »
The rewards are nice, the tiers of required kills to upgrade those core vorseals is.... It's a pain in the butt event that people rarely do.

What's more annoying is how slow SE react to flop events, it's like they're oblivious to the flaws and the floppage.

Let it flop, let it flop
Don't care if our customers throw a strop
Let it flop, let it flooooooppppppp.

Thank you for understanding.
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By Asura.Sechs 2016-07-07 06:20:25
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Tiers for Vorseals are okayish (while still pretty grindy) up until 9th. From then onwards it gets really crazy though.


If they wanted a long-term goal to offer players to keep them interested (or rather force them being interested) in Escha content I guess we should praise them instead because they kinda succeeded at that more than they did with many other things lately.


But the fact they guess the number rights for that purpose, still doesn't make the event anywhere close to "entertaining", imho.
They focused their resources too much on balancing the numbers so it would last long that they forgot to actually put some meaningful game design behind it lol
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By Phoenix.Mikumaru 2016-07-07 07:19:39
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It's a good idea executed poorly. It wouldn't be as bad as it is if the AoE and cones had a reasonable area instead of hitting everyone with in the circle and even a little out of it making it basicly impossible to keep anyone alive. Coupled with the fact that they spam that ***makes it impossible to beat unless you have perfect gear or a large number of people. And if some nub whose never fought a wyrm before starts attacking it from behind because they think flail tanking is the best route it totally goes to ***and becomes impossible to win. Preach on DJ. Preach on.
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By Cerberus.Jiko 2016-07-07 07:25:59
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360 is absurd. Once people get to that mark (Hai2uJP), people stop doing them because of the huge grind it was in the first place. The only exception to this is farming beads, and even then, I rarely see people killing them. Must be a Cerberus thing.

I'm HOPING with this event, more people will come kill them, but I'm not holding my breath. Ambublahblah has people here by the nuts; consistently spamming it to no end and doubt they'd leave.
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