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 Siren.Kyte
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By Siren.Kyte 2016-07-05 02:32:39
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Ragnarok.Raenil said: »
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If it's indeed a percentage per tier, then DRK is a big winner here. They would only need to focus on Accuracy gear then, as the Attack traits would counteract the lack of Attack+ gear.
DRK and WAR actually have those options though. The Argosy set (+1 especially) bleeds accuracy so hard (up to +234), that pretending DRGs native ACC advantage (62ish over DRK) as a justification for an even bigger ATT deficiency (compared to WAR and DRK) is laughable at best.


uhhh, that's WS gear only
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By Blazed1979 2016-07-05 02:35:33
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Siren.Kyte said: »
uhhh, that's WS gear only
Yup, unless we want to get one shotted any content that matters.

Asking again if anyone has been able to activate their mogwardrobe 3 and 4?
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2016-07-05 02:36:31
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Siren.Kyte said: »
Ragnarok.Raenil said: »
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If it's indeed a percentage per tier, then DRK is a big winner here. They would only need to focus on Accuracy gear then, as the Attack traits would counteract the lack of Attack+ gear.
DRK and WAR actually have those options though. The Argosy set (+1 especially) bleeds accuracy so hard (up to +234), that pretending DRGs native ACC advantage (62ish over DRK) as a justification for an even bigger ATT deficiency (compared to WAR and DRK) is laughable at best.


uhhh, that's WS gear only
If you legitimately need the accuracy THAT badly, no, it isn't.
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By Asura.Keaddo 2016-07-05 02:37:05
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Blazed1979 said: »
Asking again if anyone has been able to activate their mogwardrobe 3 and 4?

Doesn't seem like you can yet. Probably as servers go up / a bit before that.
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By Siren.Kyte 2016-07-05 02:37:24
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Ragnarok.Raenil said: »
Siren.Kyte said: »
Ragnarok.Raenil said: »
Shiva.Siviard said: »
If it's indeed a percentage per tier, then DRK is a big winner here. They would only need to focus on Accuracy gear then, as the Attack traits would counteract the lack of Attack+ gear.
DRK and WAR actually have those options though. The Argosy set (+1 especially) bleeds accuracy so hard (up to +234), that pretending DRGs native ACC advantage (62ish over DRK) as a justification for an even bigger ATT deficiency (compared to WAR and DRK) is laughable at best.


uhhh, that's WS gear only
If you legitimately need the accuracy THAT badly, no, it isn't.

lol
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2016-07-05 02:40:26
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You seem to be missing the point. Collectively, the +1 set can provide up to 234 ACC.

DRG's vaunted obscene ACC lead is only 62 higher than DRK. Argosy +1 head slot alone can provide 50 ACC.

I'm going to assume you can figure out where I'm going from here without holding your hand.
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By Blazed1979 2016-07-05 02:40:40
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Ragnarok.Raenil said: »
If you legitimately need the accuracy THAT badly, no, it isn't.

Its not the accuracy that's bad *** about Argosy+1, its the stacked intrinsic DA, as well as the set's bonus DA, the massive amount of STR and ATK. All that available with very high dex/accuracy makes it the wet dream of weaponskill sets.

The lack of any defensive stats makes it a death wish to tp in.
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By Blazed1979 2016-07-05 02:43:40
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Ragnarok.Raenil said: »
You seem to be missing the point. Collectively, the +1 set can provide up to 234 ACC.

DRG's vaunted obscene ACC lead is only 62 higher than DRK. Argosy +1 head slot alone can provide 50 ACC.

I'm going to assume you can figure out where I'm going from here without holding your hand.

Have you ever seen a war/drk TP in Argosy+1 outside of Apex parties and fodder?

I have the set and every time I want to show off uber dps I get floored and eat ground.
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2016-07-05 02:47:02
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Full Argosy +1? I'd imagine not.

But you only need one piece to cover most of that accuracy deficiency compared to DRG.
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By Siren.Kyte 2016-07-05 02:47:06
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Ragnarok.Raenil said: »
You seem to be missing the point. Collectively, the +1 set can provide up to 234 ACC.

DRG's vaunted obscene ACC lead is only 62 higher than DRK. Argosy +1 head slot alone can provide 50 ACC.

I'm going to assume you can figure out where I'm going from here without holding your hand.

Dragoon (but moreso Monk) has my sympathies. But bringing up Argosy as a TP option on almost anything that actually requires that much accuracy is hilarious given the general reliance on Vex/Attunement on those types of targets as well as the lack of any MDB/INT. Even one piece is going to cripple most strategies that use a GEO for meva.
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2016-07-05 03:13:24
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i can see most of these +1s being craft.
That feeling when your only a level 109 cook...
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By superzombie23 2016-07-05 03:18:47
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I'm dying to know if Smite is a gamechanger, but I highly doubt it.
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By Asura.Umisame 2016-07-05 03:19:34
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No love for samurai..
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By mortificator 2016-07-05 03:21:56
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Sylph.Shadowlina said: »
i can see most of these +1s being craft.
That feeling when your only a level 109 cook...
T_T

How do you think Alchemists feel, atleast cooking get a new craft every now and then, other then the cursed stuff i don't think alchemy has seen a new craft for a very long time.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2016-07-05 03:23:36
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Asura.Umisame said: »
No love for samurai..
At least we get Tier1 from subbing WAR? I guess.
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By Ruaumoko 2016-07-05 03:30:04
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Smite could make Insurgency very, very powerful.

Dragoon only got two tiers of it because of Stardiver and since it gets 20% Attack Bonus from the Wyvern I suppose.
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By Asura.Thorva 2016-07-05 03:30:19
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Argosy +1 has the acc, lacks the def. SE gave us good acc accessories. Sulv +1 has acc and def.

Argosy +1 wins in the acc dept clearly, but we have a +9% double attack belt with good acc with 8% haste and 17 acc, acc/sTP/regen ring now, cessance earring coupled with the new DA/acc/dex earring, and the new ammo -dt/resist status aliment, d-ring, gracile grip +1, and loricate +1.

No these aren't ideal tp pieces, but it is a def/-dt/acc option with 5% DA in earrings, 9% in belt, 5% in hand from sulv +1 and can still wear the ambuscade cape acc/attk/dex/double attk 10%. Talking half decent acc with -45% dt, +11 resist to status aliment, + 29% double attack, +2 regen (minimal I know), and +17 sTP or +32 if you are /sam.
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By Lakshmi.Dyshonest 2016-07-05 03:35:01
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Smite, huh?

All but one two-handed DD...
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By Odin.Brocovich 2016-07-05 03:36:55
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Ruaumoko said: »
Dragoon only got two tiers of it because of Stardiver and since it gets 20% Attack Bonus from the Wyvern I suppose.

If DRG does only get 2 tiers because they already have a attack buff, then DRK shouldn't get any smite traits. And what does it have to do with stardiver?
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By Asura.Thorva 2016-07-05 03:42:01
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Dragoon only got two tiers of it because of Stardiver and since it gets 20% Attack Bonus from the Wyvern I suppose.

If DRG does only get 2 tiers because they already have a attack buff, then DRK shouldn't get any smite traits. And what does it have to do with stardiver?


That isn't the case anyway. Look at job traits. If SE made a 2hd acc buff trait you can bet your *** drg would get a 5th tier and drk might get 1 if they are lucky. This is SE's lousy idea of a fix, throw on a bunch of attack for a job that doesn't need it.

I had 4494 attack in ambuscade the other day, (I remember that number very well because I made joke about how I needed more attack) giving 2hd more attack wasn't the needed fix, everyone on this site knows that the majority of the people playing the game and have a slight idea of the mechanics of the game know this. SE just doesn't think things through all the time before they push out ideas. i.e. the ridiculously high tp return on penta thrust over a decade ago, the rudra buff about a year and a half ago, the attack buff now.
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By Odin.Brocovich 2016-07-05 03:47:24
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Asura.Thorva said: »
That isn't the case anyway. Look at job traits. If SE made a 2hd acc buff trait you can bet your *** drg would get a 5th tier and drk might get 1 if they are lucky.

Was just trying to say that "Job X doesn't need stat Y, because the already got high Y-buffs" is not a good argument in this case.
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By Pantafernando 2016-07-05 03:47:26
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Personally, im worried about what was "snapped out" from ambuscade reward. I hope its not the REM currency/material/upgrade item, i was making millions with those.

The cinders were absurdelly cheap if you consider the hallmark cost.
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By Asura.Thorva 2016-07-05 03:49:34
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That isn't the case anyway. Look at job traits. If SE made a 2hd acc buff trait you can bet your *** drg would get a 5th tier and drk might get 1 if they are lucky.

Was just trying to say that "Job X doesn't need stat Y, because the already got high Y-buffs" is not a good argument in this case.


Yeah, I figured as much, just wanted to make sure it was clear read for other people that might bring up the same question as to why drk got so much and not drg.

Honestly I am not a drg, I didn't mind the job back at 75 but it wasn't my favorite. I am a drk and rdm main with a very select few jobs after that I actually enjoy, In fact only like 3/5 of the jobs I have leveled on this acnt.

I think the attk trait is straight crap and I am the one getting the huge buff too. SE seriously needs to pull their head out of their ***. Not to mention I am sure we will start seeing a bunch of bandwagon drks now.
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By Pantafernando 2016-07-05 03:55:37
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Game is up.
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By Asura.Keaddo 2016-07-05 03:58:16
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Can purchase mog wardrobes.
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By Pantafernando 2016-07-05 03:58:23
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Exp/cp rings and a couple of dye were added to total hallmark, the screen items were removed. Currency are safe.

Gallemtry currency this month is empy.
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By nyheen 2016-07-05 04:00:36
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By Fenrir.Snaps 2016-07-05 04:06:14
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I don't think they will ever remove currency from hallmarks. It's been that way since inception. The only items that change come from total hallmarks. The currency available using gallantry seems to be three random ones.
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By Shiva.Siviard 2016-07-05 04:06:57
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SE fails so hard. Smite sucks. LMFAO Just had a DRK in my LS quit because it sucks so bad.
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