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Random Politics & Religion #05
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-05-18 22:40:47
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Wow lol.
The lies people tell themselves to justify the deplorable legacy of the Clintons.
At least African Americans got to ride on the bus right, Anna? Right, Vic?
The only one lying here is you Aman. All we have to do is press you for facts and you fold, everytime.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2016-05-18 22:43:11
Quote: (CNN) An EgyptAir flight heading from Paris to Cairo disappeared from radar with 69 people on board, the airline said.
The plane was flying at 37,000 feet when it disappeared shortly after entering Egyptian airspace, the airline tweeted.
A total of 69 people were on board -- 59 passengers and 10 crew members.
In a statement on its website, Charles de Gaulle Airport said EgyptAir Flight 804 left Paris at 11:09 p.m. local time.
The airline's media center said it will provide more information as it becomes available.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-05-18 22:46:15
religion of peace?
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-05-18 22:54:08
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Wow lol.
The lies people tell themselves to justify the deplorable legacy of the Clintons.
At least African Americans got to ride on the bus right, Anna? Right, Vic?
The only one lying here is you Aman. All we have to do is press you for facts and you fold, everytime.
I annihilated you on facts tonight. What planet are you on right now? You said nothing that refuted any of the absolute bulletproof facts I laid out about Hillary Clinton. All you did was troll me unsuccessfully, making yourself somehow look even worse in the process.
I couldn't say any of this stuff about Bernie Sanders. I couldn't say any of this about Joe Biden. Alas the white millionaires that own the Democrat party have chosen Hillary Clinton for the voters.
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2016-05-18 23:00:35
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Wow lol.
The lies people tell themselves to justify the deplorable legacy of the Clintons.
At least African Americans got to ride on the bus right, Anna? Right, Vic?
The only one lying here is you Aman. All we have to do is press you for facts and you fold, everytime.
I annihilated you on facts tonight. What planet are you on right now? You said nothing that refuted any of the absolute bulletproof facts I laid out about Hillary Clinton. All you did was troll me unsuccessfully, making yourself somehow look even worse in the process.
I couldn't say any of this stuff about Bernie Sanders. I couldn't say any of this about Joe Biden. Alas the white millionaires that own the Democrat party have chosen Hillary Clinton for the voters. How long do you think before Trump puts her in jail?
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-05-18 23:05:16
Lol, you didn't post a single fact about the Clinton administration, and you ran away from DOMA and Don't ask Don't Tell when I pressed you for more information. You failed. So you tried to pivot to Hillary when you realized you were in over your head and resorted to just making things up, like you always do. And now you have nausi here joining you in fantasies.
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2016-05-18 23:10:28
I like how in an election year, all the sudden we are talking about this .003% (I'm probably guessing high) of the population that nobody, I repeat, nobody cared about the past what 1-10 thousand years? You'd be surprised what happens when a tool like the internet allows people circumvent the typical news/media outlets and tell their own stories for people to read/hear, as opposed to the *** every major new station tries to pass off as fact.
All these transgender edicts from the white house do is just put more young girls and women in disadvantageous situations. Sources please. As in, multiple.
Not 'predictions'. I want undeniable proof actual transgender people are sexually assaulting people in bathrooms at never before seen rates.
If anyone is basing their argument with 'logic' along the lines of:
"If I just had to pretend to be transgender to sexually assault someone, I'd have done it."
You need to seek mental help immediately.
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2016-05-18 23:11:22
You = They.
Dammit Rooks.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-05-18 23:13:23
Lol, you didn't post a single fact about the Clinton administration, and you ran away from DOMA and Don't ask Don't Tell when I pressed you for more information. You failed. So you tried to pivot to Hillary when you realized you were in over your head and resorted to just making things up, like you always do. And now you have nausi here joining you in fantasies.
As you know I didn't run away from anything. I presented the truth about the anti-gay legacy of the Clintons' time in the White House and the Senate. As usual, when I present facts that you don't like you try to turn it into a 3rd grade food fight with your endless trolling to distract and change the subject. It is sad in 2016 that people like you will defend such hate.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-05-18 23:25:03
As I know, I asked you direct questions, and you didn't answer them. You ran away, you can't stand the fact that Bill Clinton had the most pro-LBGT administration in the 20th century, and you can't refute it. I gave you an opportunity to, and you failed. You are the only one that has tried to change the subject. Don't worry tho, we are all used to it, its your calling card.
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By Altimaomega 2016-05-18 23:28:17
Phoenix.Amandarius said: » It is sad in 2016 that people like you will defend such hate.
Hostilely defend at that. With zero proof to his claims (as usual) while demanding you to show proof denying his claims (as usual).
Not 'predictions'. I want undeniable proof actual transgender I know it's hard. Stay with me here, okay?
It's not the "actual transgenders" anyone has a problem with here.....
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-05-18 23:29:14
I like how in an election year, all the sudden we are talking about this .003% (I'm probably guessing high) of the population that nobody, I repeat, nobody cared about the past what 1-10 thousand years?
They have to attach themselves to the LBG that is less than 2% of the population just to get noticed. A much larger percent of the population know or are related to an LGBT person, and there is still a sizable push-back against the normalization of homosexuality. This isn't difficult.
I think you missed what he was saying. He was specifically referring to the "T". Apparently.
The transgendered have been part of the community since there even was one. It's not even an election year issue since Trump and both Democratic candidates have agreed on the current administration's stance (unless Trump has gone back on that since I last checked).
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-05-18 23:30:57
I know it's hard. Stay with me here, okay?
It's not the "actual transgenders" anyone has a problem with here..... Oh ***. If sexual predators were the real concern then these laws wouldn't be targeted at trans people.
By Altimaomega 2016-05-18 23:32:18
Bill Clinton had the most pro-LBGT administration in the 20th century
Rofl. This is actually funny. You're right. But, calling it the most pro-LBGT administration in the 20th century when all he had to do was not spit in their direction... Way to prove a point!
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-05-18 23:35:11
Phoenix.Amandarius said: » It is sad in 2016 that people like you will defend such hate.
Hostilely defend at that. With zero proof to his claims (as usual) while demanding you to show proof denying his claims (as usual).
I think you mean "accurately" defend, its not hard rly, when all he has his GOP legislation to lean on, and nothing else. But lets skip over that and just blame Clinton, its so much easier right? Blame Clinton for the bad things and refuse to credit him for the good things.
By fonewear 2016-05-18 23:36:08
This thread isn't locked yet ?
By Altimaomega 2016-05-18 23:37:25
I know it's hard. Stay with me here, okay?
It's not the "actual transgenders" anyone has a problem with here..... Oh ***. If sexual predators were the real concern then these laws wouldn't be targeted at trans people.
/sigh
Let's not make a coherent law or anything, lets just shove it though and hope it sticks, right? That is what Democrats do best after all!
It's not even an election year issue since Trump and both Democratic candidates have agreed on the current administration's stance (unless Trump has gone back on that since I last checked).
Please, for the love of god, tell the media this. I'm sick of hearing about it.
Oh, wait.. Obama trying to Force schools to let anyone who "thinks they are female" use the w/e with real females, kinda shot it getting out of the news in the butt...
By Altimaomega 2016-05-18 23:41:18
Phoenix.Amandarius said: » It is sad in 2016 that people like you will defend such hate.
Hostilely defend at that. With zero proof to his claims (as usual) while demanding you to show proof denying his claims (as usual).
I think you mean "accurately" defend, its not hard rly, when all he has his GOP legislation to lean on, and nothing else. But lets skip over that and just blame Clinton, its so much easier right? Blame Clinton for the bad things and refuse to credit him for the good things.
What good things? What bad things? What GOP legislation? Why are you skipping over it? I'm 100% certain I din't mean "accurately" I would never use that word to describe you. It Apparently is hard since you have said nothing for two pages now and expect him to give you everything when it is your burden to disprove him in the first place.
By fonewear 2016-05-18 23:42:42
I only have one argument to this discussion:
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By Altimaomega 2016-05-18 23:45:26
Not TrigglyPuff! The horror! /shields eyes/ears..
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2016-05-18 23:46:13
Certain conservative lawmakers have made it an issue by trying to scare their pants-wetting constituents with threats of bearded ladies spying over the bathroom stalls. If you're sick of hearing about it, perhaps take umbrage with them.
By fonewear 2016-05-18 23:49:25
Certain conservative lawmakers have made it an issue by trying to scare their pants-wetting constituents with threats of bearded ladies spying over the bathroom stalls. If you're sick of hearing about it, perhaps take umbrage with them.
Change kids to Republicans:
By Altimaomega 2016-05-18 23:50:44
Certain conservative lawmakers have made it an issue by trying to scare their pants-wetting constituents with threats of bearded ladies spying over the bathroom stalls. If you're sick of hearing about it, perhaps take umbrage with them.
I would be more concerned with children doing what children do, only they are being given actual permission and free reign to do it. Guess that's the responsible parent coming out. I forgot its the 21st Century and Responsibility has no place in it.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-05-18 23:50:52
What good things? What bad things? What GOP legislation? Why are you skipping over it? I'm 100% certain I din't mean "accurately" I would never use that word to describe you. It Apparently is hard since you have said nothing for two pages now and expect him to give you everything when it is your burden to disprove him in the first place.
Perhaps you should backread? Its not my burden to disprove Aman. I know you think its always the left's burden to disprove the right's, regardless of topic, but it's not. Aman thinks the Clinton's hate gays, he has to prove it. He has not presented any facts thus far. I pressed him to and he folded.
Also, LBGT is not going to be an election issue. These stupid bathroom laws will most likely be dead by November, they don't benefit anyone and they are costing the states millions.
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2016-05-18 23:55:22
Unless you think the physical and mental screening processes to root our feminine behavior/looks being routinely performed to root out gay servicemen was better than DADT, you might want to hop off that hate train.
Also, way to blame Clinton for a bill he didn't propose until all of his attempts act outright legalizing LGB in the military were shot down by congress. DADT wouldn't have needed to exist as a (shoddily attempted) compromise if it wasn't for congress being a bunch of douche canoes.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-05-18 23:55:27
I like how in an election year, all the sudden we are talking about this .003% (I'm probably guessing high) of the population that nobody, I repeat, nobody cared about the past what 1-10 thousand years?
They have to attach themselves to the LBG that is less than 2% of the population just to get noticed. A much larger percent of the population know or are related to an LGBT person, and there is still a sizable push-back against the normalization of homosexuality. This isn't difficult.
I think you missed what he was saying. He was specifically referring to the "T". Apparently.
The transgendered have been part of the community since there even was one. It's not even an election year issue since Trump and both Democratic candidates have agreed on the current administration's stance (unless Trump has gone back on that since I last checked).
Nah, going back on stances is more Hillary's thing.
But anyway, I think there's more lashing out at Obama's methods more than his stance per se. Passive-agressive threats seem to be his MO.
Honestly, I think the best thing for the transgender community would be to step away from this metaphorical poo-flinging. They're reacting to the other side's arguments and getting nowhere because of it, as opposed to defining what's actually going on.
Furthering the problem is that on one hand you have the LGBT community saying that actual transgenders are rare, go through a tedious process to change, and would not be readily distinguishable from the gender they identify with in most cases. On the other you have them saying that you are the gender you identify with and should have all the rights associated with that gender, which makes it sound like I can just have a sudden change of heart as I'm standing next to the women's locker room and barge right in, because dang it that's who I decided I am and I have the right to do it! Disagree? Eat an anti-discrimination lawsuit. That's what has people concerned, and while it may sound far-fetched, the LGBT community and the Left in general isn't exactly doing a good job of lasering in on the reality and would instead rather vocally defend the fringes of their ideologies.
No wonder people are confused.
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By Altimaomega 2016-05-18 23:56:02
Perhaps you should backread? Its not my burden to disprove Aman. I know you think its always the left's burden to disprove the right's, regardless of topic, but it's not. Aman thinks the Clinton's hate gays, he has to prove it. He has not presented any facts thus far. I pressed him to and he folded.
He presented his opinion, I know opinions are dreadful things right? Anyways, If you feel the need to have a different opinion and think Admans is wrong, YOU need to present FACTS that disprove Admans opinion. It is not up to him to persuade you or anything, if you think he is wrong, prove it, or go away. Your constant victim card shenanigans are tiresome to say the least.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2016-05-19 00:00:45
Perhaps you should backread? Its not my burden to disprove Aman. I know you think its always the left's burden to disprove the right's, regardless of topic, but it's not. Aman thinks the Clinton's hate gays, he has to prove it. He has not presented any facts thus far. I pressed him to and he folded.
He presented his opinion, I know opinions are dreadful things right? Anyways, If you feel the need to have a different opinion and think Admans is wrong, YOU need to present FACTS that disprove Admans opinion. It is not up to him to persuade you or anything, if you think he is wrong, prove it, or go away. Your constant victim card shenanigans are tiresome to say the least.
lol, so now they have gone from "claims" to "opinions", because its convenient for you? Thats cute. Capitalize all you want, it doesn't mean anything. Also, stop trying to be an arm-chair mod, nobody cares, nobody has to meet your "standards" of posting. Once again you are trying to cause drama. And lastly, I have never played the victim card, not once, thats you and nausi.
By fonewear 2016-05-19 00:01:41
The only victims of this thread are people that actually read the posts !
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-05-19 00:03:00
Certain conservative lawmakers have made it an issue by trying to scare their pants-wetting constituents with threats of bearded ladies spying over the bathroom stalls. If you're sick of hearing about it, perhaps take umbrage with them.
Does it have to be a bearded lady though? Can it just be a straight man with jeans and a t-shirt in the ladies room that wants to be in there to watch and listen? If asked to leave can he just say he is transgender and refuse? Are we going to test people like that?
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