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Random Politics & Religion #05
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-05-17 13:09:44
I like to think that while the inevitability of husband and wife means that Bill will in some capacity influence or try to influence Hillary especially on those hot button issues that in the pursuit of her own ego/legacy that she'll relegate her husband to the peripheral of daily goings-on as POTUS.
It's just bad for business when your team thinks that you're not completely in charge because hubby's opinion holds more weight than your inner circle.
Bill will most likely take up whatever pet projects he can and stay out of her way. It's what's best for both of them. Maybe he'll play the sax and chase skirts.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-05-17 13:10:50
Also, first Gentleman. You know, ladies and gentlemen and all.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-05-17 13:14:02
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Maybe he'll play the sax and chase skirts
Like I said, I for one can't wait for an invitation to the first gentleman's social club. Wink wink nudge nudge
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By Bahamut.Omael 2016-05-17 13:31:42
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Maybe he'll play the sax and chase skirts
Like I said, I for one can't wait for an invitation to the first gentleman's social club. Wink wink nudge nudge
Just go hang out at the Camelot. He's sure to turn up there eventually.
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By Siren.Mosin 2016-05-17 13:57:39
Idk..you do make strange deals with people in the balkans, can we really trust you on that?
trust no one.
By Altimaomega 2016-05-17 17:56:29
I can't believe in a Constitutional Republic that was set up to get away from royal blood lines and dictators alike, here you guys are more than happy to welcome the Clintons back into the fold. Has the past decades taught you nothing?
It's a joke that she would even be considered to run for President, the fact that she is and has a chance of winning is disheartening to say the least. At worst it shows how stupid people are, that they would follow along with it like sheep.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-05-17 18:20:31
Has the past decades taught you nothing? Obviously not, if Jeb Bush was actually allowed to run for so long.
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By Phoenix.Xantavia 2016-05-17 18:26:29
Has the past decades taught you nothing? Obviously not, if Jeb Bush was actually allowed to run for so long. I wonder if that is what allowed the rise of Trump and Sanders. The early thought that it would Bush v. Clinton surely left a sour taste in the mouths of a lot of people. I know that personally that was the last thing I wanted to see on November's ballot.
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By Altimaomega 2016-05-17 18:48:19
Has the past decades taught you nothing? Obviously not, if Jeb Bush was actually allowed to run for so long.
Where is Jeb Bush now? It shows some sanity exists in the right.
By Altimaomega 2016-05-17 18:50:31
I wonder if that is what allowed the rise of Trump and Sanders.
That and the way our Government doesn't listen to the people anymore. Trump is riding the Tea Party wave and Sanders is showing the left is finally figuring things out, albeit to different conclusions.
By Altimaomega 2016-05-17 22:05:59
Looks like the Democrats are having far worse problems than their right wing counterparts. At least the Republicans are able to keep it in house as their party fractures to the Conservatives.
What do the Democrats have to fall back on when Bernie get cheated by Hillary and then Hillary loses the election?
Hint:
Quote: (CNN)Sen. Barbara Boxer, a veteran of Democratic politics, says she never saw anything quite like this before.
Loud cursing, shouting, obscene gestures and vile insults, including crude comments about the female anatomy. It was all on display over the weekend as supporters of Bernie Sanders turned the Nevada State Democratic Convention into chaos.
"I was not able to stop these people for doing what they did," Boxer, a Hillary Clinton supporter, told CNN. "Apparently they've done it before. .... This group of about 100 were very vocal, and I can't describe it -- disrespectful doesn't even explain it, it was worse than that."
READ: Changing super delegate rules would still leave Sanders behind
Boxer is hardly the lone Clinton supporter to experience such harassment on the campaign trail. Several top Democrats told CNN publicly and privately that the energy and enthusiasm of Sanders supporters has at times descended into incendiary attacks that threaten to tear apart efforts to unite Democrats against Donald Trump. Several female senators told CNN the attacks have been misogynistic.
What's more, many Democrats fear that if Sanders does not rein in his supporters, the same ugly scene that occurred in Las Vegas last weekend could replicate itself in the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia.
"He should get things under control," Boxer said of Sanders, saying it was worse than the vitriol during the Bush-Gore 2000 recount. "We're in a race that is very critical. We have to be united. He knows that. I have in fact, called him a couple times, left a couple messages. I'm hopeful he can get control of this."
Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California said "I do" when asked if Sanders should drop out of the race after voting concludes on June 7, giving Clinton a chance to "pivot" to the general election ahead of the July convention.
"I think it would be most regretful if there becomes a schism," Feinstein said. "That's what Donald Trump should want: a schism in our party. ... It's the responsibility particularly of Sen. Sanders to see that that doesn't happen."
On Tuesday, Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid said he had a "long conversation" with Sanders to lay out what happened in Nevada.
"He said that he condemns that. I'm confident he does," Reid told reporters. "This is a test of leadership."
Reid declined to comment when asked if he was worried that Sanders' backers could upend the national convention this summer.
But Sanders' statement Tuesday was defiant, saying that the Democratic Party "has a choice: It can open its doors and welcome into the party" his backers or "maintain its status quo."
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/17/politics/democrat-bernie-sanders-revolt/
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-05-17 23:14:02
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Also, first Gentleman. You know, ladies and gentlemen and all.
Gentlemen don't sexually assault women.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-05-18 07:57:04
Bill Clinton has been fighting against the War on Women for years, with his penis.
26 flights on the private jet of a convicted sex offender filled with underage female sex slaves while ditching secret service.
I am sure he was just going on these flights to talk his friend out of raping more girls. They were interventions. Bill was just there to do the right thing.
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By Asura.Saevel 2016-05-18 08:20:57
You're right though. Cabinet is probably too overt. But I can't see him just being a fly on the wall. Even if he isn't doing anything in an "official" capacity.
He won't even be a fly, just chilling in a back room drinking a beer. Former presidents have a history of just relaxing after they get done. The stress of running the US government is pretty monumental. Presidents go in looking young and strong, come out with plenty of grey hairs and looking haggard. Afterward they can go anywhere and do anything they want, no need for anymore stress.
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By fonewear 2016-05-18 08:42:27
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Bill Clinton has been fighting against the War on Women for years, with his penis.
26 flights on the private jet of a convicted sex offender filled with underage female sex slaves while ditching secret service.
I am sure he was just going on these flights to talk his friend out of raping more girls. They were interventions. Bill was just there to do the right thing.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-05-18 10:11:28
New York Times getting desperate, tries to tied Donald Trump with conspiracy theories
I mean, come on now. NYT is now starting to sound like HuffPost, but without all of the blatant sexism.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-05-18 10:30:06
Click bait headlines are money makers welcome to the 21st Century.
The article was spot on in identifying his campaign strategy and how it was developed with respect approaching and winning the ears of the G.O.P base.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2016-05-18 10:35:27
So what did the article do but point out reality?
Trump blew up on the scene riding on birtherism, dabbled in 9/11 truthing, has high favorability with mostly white, unemployed, HS graduate men and has risen to the top on racist, nativist sentiments that play well with that group and allowed him to roll the primaries where being loud, brash and 'saying it like it is' is what energizes the base.
Trump is a protest candidate, banking on the pent up rage of several voting bloc to propel him through the general. It's why he mines hatred so effectively because it's what'll motivate his voters to turn up.
By fonewear 2016-05-18 10:50:29
The only thing Trump hates is the Media and I don't blame him !
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-05-18 10:59:32
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Trump blew up on the scene riding on birtherism, dabbled in 9/11 truthing, has high favorability with mostly white, unemployed, HS graduate men and has risen to the top on racist, nativist sentiments that play well with that group and allowed him to roll the primaries where being loud, brash and 'saying it like it is' is what energizes the base.
It's a bit misleading to characterize his supporters that way. In the primaries, Trump has been killing it in demographics across the board. Does he have less support among women than men? Sure, but not by nearly as much as you'd think. It's the same story for education levels and a number of other factors.
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By Siren.Mosin 2016-05-18 11:08:32
I think a lot of it has to do with people getting tired of the greenback ruling american politics. People believe trump won't be beholden to lobbyists since he has 10b dollars. It the same reason bernie is doing so well it what was supposed to be a smashing victory for hillary, he keeps talking up gutting the cash from the equation. The low class is sick of seeing opulence while they eat their mac'n'cheese. This is only the beginning.
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By Siren.Mosin 2016-05-18 11:09:19
ewww that post is rife with errors.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-05-18 11:12:54
ewww that post is life with errors. Or is it? ;)
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-05-18 12:23:06
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Trump blew up on the scene riding on birtherism, dabbled in 9/11 truthing, has high favorability with mostly white, unemployed, HS graduate men and has risen to the top on racist, nativist sentiments that play well with that group and allowed him to roll the primaries where being loud, brash and 'saying it like it is' is what energizes the base.
It's a bit misleading to characterize his supporters that way. In the primaries, Trump has been killing it in demographics across the board. Does he have less support among women than men? Sure, but not by nearly as much as you'd think. It's the same story for education levels and a number of other factors.
What I like about Spart is that he doesn't come off as elitist or condescending. He doesn't describe everyone that he disagrees with as uneducated, white trash. Definitely not.
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By fonewear 2016-05-18 12:28:04
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Trump blew up on the scene riding on birtherism, dabbled in 9/11 truthing, has high favorability with mostly white, unemployed, HS graduate men and has risen to the top on racist, nativist sentiments that play well with that group and allowed him to roll the primaries where being loud, brash and 'saying it like it is' is what energizes the base.
It's a bit misleading to characterize his supporters that way. In the primaries, Trump has been killing it in demographics across the board. Does he have less support among women than men? Sure, but not by nearly as much as you'd think. It's the same story for education levels and a number of other factors.
What I like about Spart is that he doesn't come off as elitist or condescending. He doesn't describe everyone that he disagrees with as uneducated, white trash. Definitely not.
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By fonewear 2016-05-18 12:31:59
I think a lot of it has to do with people getting tired of the greenback ruling american politics. People believe trump won't be beholden to lobbyists since he has 10b dollars. It the same reason bernie is doing so well it what was supposed to be a smashing victory for hillary, he keeps talking up gutting the cash from the equation. The low class is sick of seeing opulence while they eat their mac'n'cheese. This is only the beginning.
Due to the recession mac n cheese has be replaced with this:
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-05-18 12:46:39
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Also, first Gentleman. You know, ladies and gentlemen and all.
Gentlemen don't sexually assault women. The hell is this supposed to mean?
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By Siren.Mosin 2016-05-18 12:52:53
Bill Clinton has been accused of sexual assault 2-3 times over the years. The only one that seemed credible to me was while he was governor of arkansas, but I'm a nobody and that was 20+ years ago.
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By Anna Ruthven 2016-05-18 12:55:23
Bill Clinton has been accused of sexual assault 2-3 times over the years. The only one that seemed credible to me was while he was governor of arkansas, but I'm a nobody and that was 20+ years ago. Oh.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-05-18 12:59:51
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »Trump blew up on the scene riding on birtherism, dabbled in 9/11 truthing, has high favorability with mostly white, unemployed, HS graduate men and has risen to the top on racist, nativist sentiments that play well with that group and allowed him to roll the primaries where being loud, brash and 'saying it like it is' is what energizes the base.
It's a bit misleading to characterize his supporters that way. In the primaries, Trump has been killing it in demographics across the board. Does he have less support among women than men? Sure, but not by nearly as much as you'd think. It's the same story for education levels and a number of other factors. You forgot the most important factor of them all:
If they are not with me, they obviously must be racist/sexist/xenophobic/uneducated/uninformed/evil/idiotic/<insert derogatory term here>.
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