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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-05-16 18:11:40
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Phoenix.Xantavia said: »
But when the state starts telling local government that they CANNOT make anti-discrimination laws, somebody has to step in.
Wait, isn't that what we are going for? Local governments not making anti-discrimination laws?

Why should somebody step in to put a stop to that?
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-05-16 18:17:53
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Anna Ruthven said: »
Legit question: If Hillary won, what would Bill's title be?

First womanizer !

At a rally today she told everyone that she is going to put Bill in charge of the economy.

She has been done running as Hillary. Didn't work. She is now done, I guess, running as Bernie Sanders. Now, she is just saying "please elect Bill again."
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2016-05-16 18:20:59
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-05-16 18:21:55
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
fonewear said: »
Anna Ruthven said: »
Legit question: If Hillary won, what would Bill's title be?

First womanizer !

At a rally today she told everyone that she is going to put Bill in charge of the economy.

She has been done running as Hillary. Didn't work. She is now done, I guess, running as Bernie Sanders. Now, she is just saying "please elect Bill again."

Can you blame her? I mean, would you run as Hillary Clinton if you were her?
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By fonewear 2016-05-16 18:28:50
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
fonewear said: »
Anna Ruthven said: »
Legit question: If Hillary won, what would Bill's title be?

First womanizer !

At a rally today she told everyone that she is going to put Bill in charge of the economy.

She has been done running as Hillary. Didn't work. She is now done, I guess, running as Bernie Sanders. Now, she is just saying "please elect Bill again."

Can you blame her? I mean, would you run as Hillary Clinton if you were her?

Maybe the Hillary that was a Republican back in the day !

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By Jetackuu 2016-05-16 18:28:56
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"Please elect Bill again" is honestly her best option, should have started with it.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-05-16 20:52:13
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Anna Ruthven said: »
Legit question: If Hillary won, what would Bill's title be?
In Bill's case, first bubba.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-05-17 05:24:19
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Doubling down on your bet with Mosin?
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By Ramyrez 2016-05-17 07:42:33
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
fonewear said: »
Anna Ruthven said: »
Legit question: If Hillary won, what would Bill's title be?

First womanizer !

At a rally today she told everyone that she is going to put Bill in charge of the economy.

She has been done running as Hillary. Didn't work. She is now done, I guess, running as Bernie Sanders. Now, she is just saying "please elect Bill again."

Can you blame her? I mean, would you run as Hillary Clinton if you were her?

Having Bill again would be the best option of this all.

That's not an endorsement of Bill. Just a statement to my perceived value of any other likely candidate in the general election, as The Mandateā„¢ has been against Bernie from the get-go.
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By Ramyrez 2016-05-17 07:58:26
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Also, in legitimate fact, you'd probably be calling Bill Clinton "Mister Secretary," as he's likely to end up with a cabinet position if Hillary is elected. At least, I would hope she's smart enough to do that.

Because not only would that put someone with massive experience in the position, it would actually keep them relatively separated in physical proximity, which seems to be the appropriate thing for both of them in their obviously-based-on-power-not-love marriage.

As for the honorary, I suspect "First Gentleman" would be used as it is the standard for the husbands of female governors.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-05-17 08:26:50
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I don't know why anyone would think that Bill actually strived to do good for the economy.

I mean, the good things that happened for the economy under his watch was done by other men. Mainly, NAFTA was mainly created by the Bush I administration, even though Clinton signed it, it was already done negotiating by the Bush team.

That surplus people keep spouting about? Congress did nearly all of the work. Clinton just signed the bills.

All he did really was sign pieces of paper. He was hardly in any of the planning or negotiation stages of any of these economic boons.

But let's not forget that things that ended up hurting the economy more, like speeding up the housing crisis in 2008, was negotiated and signed by Clinton himself (and Janet Reno).
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By Grumpy Cat 2016-05-17 08:32:39
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Ramyrez said: »
As for the honorary, I suspect "First Gentleman" would be used as it is the standard for the husbands of female governors.

First Husbando or GTFO
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By Ramyrez 2016-05-17 08:33:31
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*shrug*

At this point just trying to work with what we have to work with. If she just says "Bill, go to the room and put the gimp suit on and don't come out until I tell you," that's fine too.

I'm just trying to be realistic about the options in the event of a Hilldawg Presidency.

Also, you're welcome for that mental image.
 
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By Ramyrez 2016-05-17 09:38:45
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Iran cracks down on female models posing without headscarves online

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TEHRAN, Iran -- Iranian police have arrested eight people in a new crackdown targeting "un-Islamic acts" online such as female models posting images of themselves without their hair covered, state media reported Monday, part of a larger cultural struggle in the Islamic Republic over the country's future.

The arrests follow the detentions of artists, poets, journalists and activists as moderate President Hassan Rouhani's administration secured a landmark nuclear deal with world powers.

The arrests and harsh sentences handed down signal that hard-liners in the police and judiciary, who were unable to stop the accord and fear looser social norms will weaken the Islamic Republic, still hold significant power in the country.

Yeah, so.

I just don't have the words. I guess we're lucky we're just bickering freely about which asshat gets to be president?

At least we can be pretty sure that regardless of who we put in power this won't happen?

Then again, Trump isn't -- somewhat ironically -- always free speech's biggest advocate either if his history of frivolously suing the press is any indication.
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By Siren.Mosin 2016-05-17 09:49:47
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Ramyrez said: »
I just don't have the words.

oppressing women is as old as time. We're the freaks and weirdos in the west experimenting with educating women, letting them think, vote, drive and such. We haven't even been doing that very long. hell chanti's mom was probably oppressed here.

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I guess we're lucky we're just bickering freely about which asshat gets to be president?

well technically, you and I would have been fine. our mothers, wives, and daughters on the other hand, are very lucky, yes.
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By fonewear 2016-05-17 09:55:36
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
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And we were this close to getting away from that topic again. /sigh
BEN-GODDAMN-GHAZI

TRANSGENDER TEENS CAN'T MELT STEEL BEAMS

I wrote a dissertation paper for my transgender studies on this very topic !
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By fonewear 2016-05-17 09:58:33
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http://gws.arizona.edu/news/transgender-studies-faculty-cluster-hire-underway
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By fonewear 2016-05-17 09:59:55
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You can't make this ***up we live in a "brave new world"

Transgender studies concerns itself with the variability and contingency of gender, sexuality, identity, and embodiment across time, space, languages, and cultures. It pays particular attention to the socio-political, legal, and economic consequences of noncompliance with gender norms; to the histories and social organization of minoritized transgender lives and communities; to forms of cultural production that represent or express gender variance; to the medicalization of identity and the depathologization of bodily difference; and to the emergence of novel forms of embodied subjectivity within contemporary techno-cultural environments. Because we seek to hire the most innovative scholars in this rapidly evolving field, we are open to considering any area of specialization, research agenda, and inter/disciplinary training compatible with faculty service in the College of Social and Behavioral Sciences.
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By Ramyrez 2016-05-17 10:16:19
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Siren.Mosin said: »
well technically, you and I would have been fine. our mothers, wives, and daughters on the other hand, are very lucky, yes.

If my wife had been the oppressed type she'd never have been allowed to become the person that I married.

And I would most certainly not be fine. Hindsight is what it is, but it doesn't take a physicist to plot the trajectory I was on before I fell in with my wife and her crowd.

So *** you, I'm lucky and I won't hear otherwise!
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By Siren.Mosin 2016-05-17 12:43:09
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Ramyrez said: »
So *** you, I'm lucky and I won't hear otherwise!

geeeeeezzz loosen up, I'm not trying to take your wife away this was all weird and hypothetical.

that being said, you'd have been married at 15 to some other chick, so you never would have had the chance to know what you were missing with reality wife, so I would interject again, you'd be fine.

:D
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By Siren.Mosin 2016-05-17 12:43:54
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Oh man, I'd like to edit a comma in there.
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By Ramyrez 2016-05-17 12:45:04
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Siren.Mosin said: »
Ramyrez said: »
So *** you, I'm lucky and I won't hear otherwise!

that being said, you'd have been married at 15 to some other chick, so you never would have had the chance to know what you were missing with reality wife, so I would interject again, you'd be fine.

:D

I met my wife at 15!

Siren.Mosin said: »
geeeeeezzz loosen up, I'm not trying to take your wife away this was all weird and hypothetical.

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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-05-17 12:49:03
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Siren.Mosin said: »
I'm not trying to take your wife away
Idk..you do make strange deals with people in the balkans, can we really trust you on that?
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By Asura.Saevel 2016-05-17 12:57:33
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Also, in legitimate fact, you'd probably be calling Bill Clinton "Mister Secretary," as he's likely to end up with a cabinet position if Hillary is elected. At least, I would hope she's smart enough to do that.

He would never be approved and her nominating him would be political suicide. There is a huge *** conflict of interest with him being not only her husband but also a former president. Plus as a former president it would be a demotion for him to take that position. He'll do what all former presidents do, retire into the background and enjoy a lifelong break from the monumental stress of running the US government. Occasionally do photo-ops and speeches while knowing your name will forever be written into the history of your country.
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By Ramyrez 2016-05-17 12:59:08
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Asura.Saevel said: »
There is a huge *** conflict of interest with him being not only her husband but also a former president.

Well I agree.

But...it's the Clintons we're talking about. They're apparently human-alien hybrids with skin of Teflon the way nothing sticks to them.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-05-17 13:00:21
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Asura.Saevel said: »
He'll retire into manipulate things from the background
Ftfy!
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By Ramyrez 2016-05-17 13:00:30
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You're right though. Cabinet is probably too overt. But I can't see him just being a fly on the wall. Even if he isn't doing anything in an "official" capacity.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2016-05-17 13:07:13
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Well I for one can't wait for an invitation to the first gentleman's social club. Wink wink nudge nudge
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