Random Politics & Religion #05
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Random Politics & Religion #05
Damnit Seha!
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I think we should elect an illegal immigrant for President in America. He can tear down the wall !
fonewear said: » I think we should elect an illegal immigrant for President in America. He can tear down the wall ! So (according to some) Cruz?
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Native American's technically immigrated to America too...
We should send them back to Beringia !  We are all immigrants just some of us don't hang out in the Home Depot parking lot...on purpose at least !
Ten imaginary internet dollars says Donald Trump picks his former publicist, John Miller, as his running mate. :)
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Anna Ruthven said: » Ten imaginary internet dollars says Donald Trump picks his former publicist, John Miller, as his running mate. :)
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Anna Ruthven said: » Ten imaginary internet dollars says Donald Trump picks his former publicist, John Miller, as his running mate. :)
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It's not me it's John Miller >.>
I'm using it every-time I make a questionable post. "wasn't me, sounds like it was John Miller"
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I've seen enough News reporters whom seem to disagree w/ how our Govt acts sometimes. Passing new laws that take away businesses from everyday Americans handing the market over to a continued lobbyist corrupted scheme.
Batman w/ his head burried deeply in the sand needs to wake the hell up. Gotham needs this 2 faced masked weasel to do as he claims he does. You disagree? Not a problem. Tell Bernie to fix his fraudulent campaign's objectives as he continue's to play deaf, dumb and ignorant. Then return back to me one more time please. Explain to me again why I should vote such a man to represent middle class America. Quote: Aks THATS it! You're banned fron FFXIAH... nobody GIVES a ***ffs... for the love of god just STFU alrdy ...MOVING ON Mod Edit: Profanity in Image. Topic Banned for this. Bahamut.Milamber said: » Often end up in discussions with people here about immigration, usually without them realizing I am an immigrant until well past the point of embarrassment, ending in "oh but you are OK!/I don't mean you!" For some reason, I highly doubt you are an illegal immigrant. You know the entire reason for the conversation. If by chance you are an illegal immigrant, then yes, you are the problem and I do mean you. Otherwise, since you came here legally and didn't break the law, then welcome to the USA. This isn't really difficult. Altimaomega said: » Bahamut.Milamber said: » Often end up in discussions with people here about immigration, usually without them realizing I am an immigrant until well past the point of embarrassment, ending in "oh but you are OK!/I don't mean you!" For some reason, I highly doubt you are an illegal immigrant. You know the entire reason for the conversation. If by chance you are an illegal immigrant, then yes, you are the problem and I do mean you. Otherwise, since you came here legally and didn't break the law, then welcome to the USA. This isn't really difficult. But when we speak of illegal immigrants in the US, illegal immigration wouldn't really be a hot-button topic if people actually complied with employment laws and regulations. So it is somewhat funny to hear people talk about adding more safeguards rather than simply enforcing those at hand. And let's not even digress towards historical requirements towards immigrants (which somewhat borders on absurd). So, if we can clarify: legal immigration to the US is entirely OK (hi H1-B!), but illegal immigration (to be entirely crass, hi farm employees/construction workers/Home Depot pickup-people) is simply non-kosher?
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Am I the only one who doesn't understand what Akson is getting at anymore?
Bismarck.Dracondria said: » Am I the only one who doesn't understand what Akson is getting at anymore? Bismarck.Dracondria said: » Am I the only one who doesn't understand what Akson is getting at anymore?
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Bahamut.Milamber said: » Altimaomega said: » Bahamut.Milamber said: » Often end up in discussions with people here about immigration, usually without them realizing I am an immigrant until well past the point of embarrassment, ending in "oh but you are OK!/I don't mean you!" For some reason, I highly doubt you are an illegal immigrant. You know the entire reason for the conversation. If by chance you are an illegal immigrant, then yes, you are the problem and I do mean you. Otherwise, since you came here legally and didn't break the law, then welcome to the USA. This isn't really difficult. But when we speak of illegal immigrants in the US, illegal immigration wouldn't really be a hot-button topic if people actually complied with employment laws and regulations. So it is somewhat funny to hear people talk about adding more safeguards rather than simply enforcing those at hand. And let's not even digress towards historical requirements towards immigrants (which somewhat borders on absurd). So, if we can clarify: legal immigration to the US is entirely OK (hi H1-B!), but illegal immigration (to be entirely crass, hi farm employees/construction workers/Home Depot pickup-people) is simply non-kosher? Got to pick your battles. Fighting on multiple fronts is never a good strategy and things will never get done if you want them all done at the same time. Which is why nothing gets done in D.C. Pick an argument and stick with it. Bahamut.Milamber said: » So, if we can clarify: legal immigration to the US is entirely OK (hi H1-B!), but illegal immigration (to be entirely crass, hi farm employees/construction workers/Home Depot pickup-people) is simply non-kosher? If only it were so cut and dry. When we get away from the petty rhetoric that gets thrown back and forth over immigration, it ends up that people on both sides tend to agree that we need stronger border enforcement and an easier path for legal immigration. The hows and the whats and the who end up causing contention, but I think we'd get a lot further than focusing on the extremes of 100% open borders and "shoot 'em on sight!" xenophobia.
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Bahamut.Ravael said: » Bahamut.Milamber said: » So, if we can clarify: legal immigration to the US is entirely OK (hi H1-B!), but illegal immigration (to be entirely crass, hi farm employees/construction workers/Home Depot pickup-people) is simply non-kosher? If only it were so cut and dry. When we get away from the petty rhetoric that gets thrown back and forth over immigration, it ends up that people on both sides tend to agree that we need stronger border enforcement and an easier path for legal immigration. The hows and the whats and the who end up causing contention, but I think we'd get a lot further than focusing on the extremes of 100% open borders and "shoot 'em on sight!" xenophobia. I'd argue that Trump is pushing the "shoot em on sight" button, and hell if I know what Clinton has, but probably not that. Bahamut.Milamber said: » (hi H1-B!) H1-B is abused as hell. The fact that those abuses happen "above board" is honestly more insulting than the fruit pickers and day laborers.
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Bahamut.Milamber said: » So, in your opinion, where do the political candidates lie on the issues? Bahamut.Ravael said: » I think we'd get a lot further than focusing on the extremes of 100% open borders and "shoot 'em on sight!" xenophobia. Clinton "100% open borders" vs. Trump's "'shoot 'em on sight' xenophobia" You can't get any more polar than this election! Bahamut.Milamber said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » Bahamut.Milamber said: » So, if we can clarify: legal immigration to the US is entirely OK (hi H1-B!), but illegal immigration (to be entirely crass, hi farm employees/construction workers/Home Depot pickup-people) is simply non-kosher? If only it were so cut and dry. When we get away from the petty rhetoric that gets thrown back and forth over immigration, it ends up that people on both sides tend to agree that we need stronger border enforcement and an easier path for legal immigration. The hows and the whats and the who end up causing contention, but I think we'd get a lot further than focusing on the extremes of 100% open borders and "shoot 'em on sight!" xenophobia. I'd argue that Trump is pushing the "shoot em on sight" button, and hell if I know what Clinton has, but probably not that. Who knows what Clinton thinks. It doesn't even matter, because her position will change to whatever she thinks will earn her the most votes. And Trump.... Well, he speaks for himself. Screw 'em both.
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