Altimaomega said: »
You seem to be the only one wanting to restrict people from posting their opinions here vic. Do you realize that yet?
Is this even worth responding to? I'm guessing Rooks would say no.
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Is this even worth responding to? I'm guessing Rooks would say no. Altimaomega said: » You seem to be the only one wanting to restrict people from posting their opinions here vic. Do you realize that yet? Both sides do it. Only thing that changes is the methods.
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I would more than welcome your opinion if you ever chose to share one.
Altimaomega said: » I would more than welcome your opinion if you ever chose to share one. Mine? Mine stay obscured for pretty good reason. Mostly that reason is having fun watching Kojo try and triangulate my actual thoughts on something from the posts, but I defy you to find a nobler cause
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Altimaomega said: » I would more than welcome your opinion if you ever chose to share one. Regurgitated reponses don't work either, as well as the fact most of people know how you react to opinions that dont coalesce with your views...let alone the way you react to ones that go over your head.
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: » I've mentioned the concept of "unintended consequences" (previously in this stretch) from simply removing the notion of sex segregation in bathrooms/lockerooms. Not my fault if the other side doesn't want to acknowledge said concepts. Remove the stigma from men being in the women's room and big surprise more men will be in the women's room, including the ones women don't want in there. I'm sure trans people have their own conflicts, but the rest of us don't need to give pervs more reason to enter women's locker rooms. So put on your big boy (or girl) pants and come back to reality when you use the bathroom. Drama Torama said: » Re: the "conflicts" of the trans; these are people whose very sense of identity is vulnerable. They commit suicide at a significantly higher rate. Their mind and body disagree on who they are. If you want to restrict their pissing options, then that is your policy point, but don't trivialize it with "I'm sure they have their conflicts". You can be opposed to someone politically while retaining empathy for them, and since your argument is actually targeted at straight men who you expect to misbehave, beating them up on the way to making your argument is a fairly low move. You're better than that, or you should be. I'm a pragmatist and the size of this population is simply too small to be making special rules or situations for. It's the same as making sure all doors can be opened with feet because double arm amputee's might been intimidated otherwise. Time and resources spent towards accommodating them could be spent on more important things, especially if those time / resources come as a form of government mandate.
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Drama Torama said: » Altimaomega said: » I would more than welcome your opinion if you ever chose to share one. Mine? Mine stay obscured for pretty good reason. Mostly that reason is having fun watching Kojo try and triangulate my actual thoughts on something from the posts, but I defy you to find a nobler cause Drama Torama said: » Altimaomega said: » I would more than welcome your opinion if you ever chose to share one. Mine? Mine stay obscured for pretty good reason. Mostly that reason is having fun watching Kojo try and triangulate my actual thoughts on something from the posts, but I defy you to find a nobler cause Was meant for vic, but I like your answer. Lakshmi.Zerowone said: » as well as the fact most of people know how you react to opinions that dont coalesce with your views...l Lakshmi.Zerowone said: » let alone the way you react to ones that go over your head.
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Drama Torama said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » So wait, if person X is attacking person Y and person Y for that reason or whatever other reason doesn't wish to engage with person X then person X is entitled to sling as much mud as they want? If you hadn't been acknowledging them, your case here might hold some weight. You were, and just refusing to properly engage a discussion that you started. So no, they don't get to fling as much mud as they want - I called Vic out in public! - but debating in bad faith is no bueno. The only time I engaged with vic in this exchange was to tell him that I felt his "delusional" comment was personal. In all fairness I did it twice because he made the comment twice. That's it.
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It's likely too feelsy for them to care for.
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said: » Nausi and Altima: the next time you get a second please check this out. It's a video from last summer and you can see the real struggle transgender people go through, specifically in the military and as children. Altimaomega said: » Drama Torama said: » Altimaomega said: » I would more than welcome your opinion if you ever chose to share one. Mine? Mine stay obscured for pretty good reason. Mostly that reason is having fun watching Kojo try and triangulate my actual thoughts on something from the posts, but I defy you to find a nobler cause Was meant for vic, but I like your answer. Lakshmi.Zerowone said: » as well as the fact most of people know how you react to opinions that dont coalesce with your views...l Lakshmi.Zerowone said: » let alone the way you react to ones that go over your head. I like how you play civil when you're brown nosing the admin. However your MO has been to resort to name calling and then playing the victim when posters get tired of your antics.
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Sylph.Jeanpaul said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » I've mentioned the concept of "unintended consequences" (previously in this stretch) from simply removing the notion of sex segregation in bathrooms/lockerooms. Not my fault if the other side doesn't want to acknowledge said concepts. Remove the stigma from men being in the women's room and big surprise more men will be in the women's room, including the ones women don't want in there. I'm sure trans people have their own conflicts, but the rest of us don't need to give pervs more reason to enter women's locker rooms. So put on your big boy (or girl) pants and come back to reality when you use the bathroom. Gender neutral bathrooms are something that some buildings choose to do, but nobody (certainly not here) is demanding that it apply to all public restrooms. Transgendered people just want to use the bathroom that they identify with, and not be forced by law into one they don't. You do understand by tossing convention out the window via saying "just use the bathroom you identify with" you open up the doors to all sorts of unintended consequences right? Second question is do you care?
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: » I like how you play civil when you're brown nosing the admin. However your MO has been to resort to name calling and then playing the victim when posters get tired of your antics. Oh, I have zero problem getting into the thick of things once it has started. The problem is and always has been, I am the one who gets banned and everyone else walks away like nothing happened. Notice, the bold. I never start it. Altimaomega said: » Lakshmi.Zerowone said: » let alone the way you react to ones that go over your head. Yeah, this has never happened. Not once. It certainly didn't happen today when you ragequit the conversation. It is just your perception, but rest assured, the times when you think your posts go over our heads, it really is just us trying to decipher your jibberish. Nice attempt to elevate yourself tho. Altimaomega said: » Lakshmi.Zerowone said: » I like how you play civil when you're brown nosing the admin. However your MO has been to resort to name calling and then playing the victim when posters get tired of your antics. Oh, I have zero problem getting into the thick of things once it has started. The problem is and always has been, I am the one who gets banned and everyone else walks away like nothing happened. Notice, the bold. I never start it. Again this is just your perception. To everyone else you are a regular instigator, and your certainly go out of your way to keep it going.
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Asura.Saevel said: » Drama Torama said: » Re: the "conflicts" of the trans; these are people whose very sense of identity is vulnerable. They commit suicide at a significantly higher rate. Their mind and body disagree on who they are. If you want to restrict their pissing options, then that is your policy point, but don't trivialize it with "I'm sure they have their conflicts". You can be opposed to someone politically while retaining empathy for them, and since your argument is actually targeted at straight men who you expect to misbehave, beating them up on the way to making your argument is a fairly low move. You're better than that, or you should be. I'm a pragmatist and the size of this population is simply too small to be making special rules or situations for. It's the same as making sure all doors can be opened with feet because double arm amputee's might been intimidated otherwise. Time and resources spent towards accommodating them could be spent on more important things, especially if those time / resources come as a form of government mandate. But WHEEEEEEEERE's your chic empathy bro? Don't you know what's popular?
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Shiva.Viciousss said: » Yeah, this has never happened. Not once. It certainly didn't happen today when you ragequit the conversation. It is just your perception, but rest assured, the times when you think your posts go over our heads, it really is just us trying to decipher your jibberish. Nice attempt to elevate yourself tho. I don't need to be elevated. I will only repeat myself so many times before I get tired of talking to someone who fails to understand. Not only fail but not even try. I always understand what you left sided people are saying but you straight up refuse to see my side. Shiva.Viciousss said: » Again this is just your perception. To everyone else you are a regular instigator, and your certainly go out of your way to keep it going. Really? Do I need to go back and quote the instigating crap you say non-stop all the time? I cannot believe you can even say this with a straight face! Ragnarok.Nausi said: » You do understand by tossing convention out the window via saying "just use the bathroom you identify with" you open up the doors to all sorts of unintended consequences right? Second question is do you care?
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Altimaomega said: » Really? Do I need to go back and quote the instigating crap you say non-stop all the time? I cannot believe you can even say this with a straight face! Sure go ahead and try, it won't change the fact you start ***everyday, twice in the last hour even. Trying to claim "we fail to understand" is in itself instigation. Nobody ever fails to understand your "points."
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Shiva.Viciousss said: » Altimaomega said: » Really? Do I need to go back and quote the instigating crap you say non-stop all the time? I cannot believe you can even say this with a straight face! Sure go ahead and try, it won't change the fact you start ***everyday, twice in the last hour even. Trying to claim "we fail to understand" is in itself instigation. Nobody ever fails to understand your "points." Just the past 20 pages. I even dismissed the borderline ones. You instigate just to instigate! My "twice in the last hour" is not even a drop in the bucket compared to you. Shiva.Viciousss said: » I wonder if he ever gets tired of his completely off-base rantings about "progressives." Shiva.Viciousss said: » He is a child with a serious superiority complex. Always has been. Shiva.Viciousss said: » Give it up, you didn't do anything. Shiva.Viciousss said: » Welcome to talking to altima, lol. Shiva.Viciousss said: » Its more like you are delusional. Shiva.Viciousss said: » Welcome to talking to nausi. Shiva.Viciousss said: » It hurts nausi and altima's feelings, obviously. Shiva.Viciousss said: » No it doesn't, this is just your personal paranoia. Shiva.Viciousss said: » Once again Saevel misplays the victim card Shiva.Viciousss said: » Yay nausi idiocy!
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Asura.Floppyseconds said: » You claim to be an adult so if someone instigates you then use your words. Why? Nobody else does. You think anyone comes here to not have fun? A line needs to be drawn in the sand at some point and when a conversation breaks down into personal attacks because someone cannot counter with anything else it kinda takes away the entire point. Asura.Floppyseconds said: » I believe people merit the treatment given to them around here. Yes they do. We agree again! The only thing is he mods should treat everyone the same. Why doesn't a transgender man, by that I mean a man that believes he is a woman, want to use a men's restroom? Because it makes them uncomfortable to use the bathroom in a restroom full of men I presume.
So the solution is to make everyone else in the world uncomfortable besides transgender people. Are we going to have a transgender test or can creepy dudes just go stand around in ladies' rooms now?
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: » Why doesn't a transgender man, by that I mean a man that believes he is a woman, want to use a men's restroom? Because it makes them uncomfortable to use the bathroom in a restroom full of men I presume. So the solution is to make everyone else in the world uncomfortable besides transgender people. Are we going to have a transgender test or can creepy dudes just go stand around in ladies' rooms now? Sorry youre a few pages late. we already suggested branding them with a pink and blue star of David in the name of progress. |
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