Random Politics & Religion #01

Ok, let me ask you this then:

Do you think it is possible for a professional to contribute, directly or indirectly, into governmental fraud?

That question also applies to Nightfyre too.

Isn't that what auditors are for?

I would feel better with an external audit than an internal audit. Most, if not all, public schools have internal audits of their districts (at least, Texas does) and the state audits a few of them.

I mean, it's not that hard to hide money in a system not designed well.

I wish I could trust everyone, but really, you cannot trust anyone. Due to the fact that they are human and are subject to greed.

One other thought on my way out: the increasing prevalence of the dual income family structure means there often isn't a parent that can afford to stay home with the child 7 days a week. There are programs in place that help with costs of medication, therapy, etc, but getting money out of them is like wringing blood from a stone. There are many reasons why all the parents know each other, are in touch with the same support groups, etc. Shared knowledge is a wonderful asset.

Except me....I don't like being in any groups or talking to parents even if my kid is with ad -hd (She has the ad but not hd. That's what Im told).

I'm pretty sure he's going on more about things such as Down or neurodegenerative conditions.
And tbh that is how I interpreted the original point too.

Sure she isn't just bored?

We've tried lots of things, they modify her schooling to accommodate. I wish it was because she is bored but she does it at home too. A brain scan was done, nothing wrong there. But the school diagnosed her with the psychologist (counselor).

By all means always get a second(or third)opinion on these things. Just to be sure.

Loaded question. You're assuming fraudulent activity based on nothing but paranoid speculation.

The IEP is also supposed to transfer into higher education aswell, but colleges know how to worm out of the law :<

My "504 Plan" was immediately laughed away by the disabilities office...which is highly illegal when put up to the ADA (But will they get away with it if i sue them? Absolutely).

Not a loaded question. You cannot assume everybody are angels.

Fraud happens everywhere. Even in schools.

While I don't expect you to answer it, here's another question for you: Do you think schools are above doing anything for more funds?

You're right, now gonna answer. You were wrong in your initial assertion that schools themselves are over-diagnosing kids and now you're grasping for some kind of validation. If you'd like to present any kind of evidence for it, go ahead. Until then, it's irrelevant to the discussion going on.

now = not

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Hah, caught you red handed! This is why the new P&R rules exist!

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That and it's not necessarily a bad thing. Especially if she learns to manage it, instead of trying to make it go away with a lifetime regiment of pills. At least that's my personal take on it, always do what you think is best for your child.

My school psychologist raised the initial suspicion I could be autistic, but she admitted it not being her field of expertise(not to me at the time) and passed me to someone who had more experience in diagnosing autistic spectrum disorders.
In the end it always depends if you're in the hands of responsible people or not on this topic of overdiagnosis/wrong calls. For example in my case this person just called for someone who knew better before making a possible mistake.

This is a misunderstanding.

There are no IEPs or 504 plans in college. There is still section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 that protects students from discrimination. The main issue is colleges have different requirements for documentation. The student has to seek out the services the campus offers. They are not provided by default.

There is a minimal standard they have to provide but it may not offer something specific to you. It doesn't have to provide it. What that means is you have to research what the college provides then decide if it can meet your needs before applying or attending.

I can only speak on American school systems, but generally it isn't a school psychologist as it is team of people trained in Special Education that do the evaluations that work for the entire district.

Some districts I know of even have an entire building for where the multiple levels of administration that go into current special education reside. You have things like coordinators that make district wide policy, down to people that can evaluate for autism, and even people that are basically just more specialized teachers.

Sorry about the delay. Wasn't sure we should circle back to this since the topic took a different direction.

Not so much private investments. Some schools, here at least, have been functioning on wide-scale donations and/or fundraisers for years, and it seems to haven't changed much. (Granted, this is usually for extra-curricular participation.)

Here, we already pay high property taxes that is suppose to be allocated to district-by-district funding and also at the state level (municipal utilities, too).

If you've kept up with the debacle (which I wouldn't expect you, yourself, to zero in on this particularly), it's been a cavalcade of year-to-year budget cuts on top of a multitude of mass teacher layoffs (started about 09/10). It makes you wonder why we're paying .44%/$100 of the property's appraised value (previously .48% in a county south of here) for mediocre results and almost a decade of education cuts. Last time I looked, we're the 6th highest in the nation as far as property taxes are concerned.

I still don't understand why people who place their children in private schools, even though we pay out our nose for decent areas, when they could just as easily sink in their money or volunteer. Maybe there's something missing there?

What I was thinking when I saw this:

That's how I ended up a zombified Ritalin junkie at age 10.

More like you know you're wrong.


Imagine how many school psychologist are arrogant and never admit to being wrong, that would never ask for outside diagnosing.

A diagnosis from a psychologist would be a professional one. The *** are you going on about? I don't entertain conspiracy theories presented with no evidence.