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By Altimaomega 2016-04-09 01:15:28
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Let's try this again. This time actually read what I am talking about and leave your assumptions out of it.

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Here we go again.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SELF_DRIVING_CARS_CAUTION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-04-08-15-37-19

A General Motors official recently told a Senate committee that
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the automaker expects to deploy self-driving cars within a few years through a partnership with the ride-sharing service Lyft. Google, a pioneer in the development of self-driving cars, is pushing Congress to give NHTSA new powers to grant it special, expedited permission to sell cars without steering wheels or pedals.

But many of those who addressed the meeting, the first of two the agency has scheduled as it works on the guidelines, described a host of situations that self-driving cars still can't handle:

-Poorly marked pavement, including parking lots and driveways, could foil the technology, which relies on clear lane markings.

-Bad weather can interfere with vehicle sensors.

-Self-driving cars can't take directions from a policeman.

-Inconsistent traffic-control devices - horizontal versus lateral traffic lights, for example.

Until the technology has advanced beyond the point where ordinary conditions are problematic, "it is dangerous, impractical and a major threat to the public health, safety and welfare to deploy them," said Mark Golden, executive director of the National Society of Professional Engineers.

There have been thousands of "disengagements" reported in road tests of self-driving cars in which the vehicles automatically turned control over to a human being, said John Simpson, privacy project director of Consumer Watchdog.

"Self-driving cars simply aren't ready to safely manage too many routine traffic situations without human intervention, he said.

Rosekind said automakers are learning from the unanticipated situations the vehicles encounter and adapting their software. At the same time, he acknowledged that self-driving cars, like other systems that rely on wireless technology, can be vulnerable to hacking.

So my question is.
Once one of these cars causes a 5-100 car pile up on an interstate where people are diving 75mph-100mph. How many lawsuits until they are scrapped? It's not like it is the drivers fault and until now it would have been nonsensical to sue ford or dodge when one of their vehicles got in an accident. But with something like Google software of w/e the AI comes from they are the ones responsible now and are going to be liable for literally millions if not billions of dollars in lawsuits.

From what the article says. Yes, Rain Dangerous...
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By Altimaomega 2016-04-09 01:24:48
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »
Altima your fears on this are greatly exaggerated and a waste of your energy at this point.

I like how it's always "fears"... No, it is due diligence. A form of responsibility to ask the question. We are basically giving an AI the right to make critical decisions over peoples lives. Is that the right thing to do? Should it be done? What gives others the right to have one on the road with me?
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By Altimaomega 2016-04-09 01:32:28
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »
Altima your fears on this are greatly exaggerated and a waste of your energy at this point.

I like how it's always "fears"... No, it is due diligence. A form of responsibility to ask the question. We are basically giving an AI the right to make critical decisions over peoples lives. Is that the right thing to do? Should it be done? What gives others the right to have one on the road with me?
I say fears because you use terms like AI incorrectly, like it's an emotional response based on fear.

It's not artificial intelligence. it's just advanced software.

AI is just easier to write than advanced software. If you would stop reading into what "you think I am saying" and just read what I am saying, maybe you could answer my question.

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with something like Google software of w/e the AI comes from
I even use them as the same thing here.
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By Asura.Calatilla 2016-04-09 01:34:32
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Altimaomega said: »

-Poorly marked pavement, including parking lots and driveways, could foil the technology, which relies on clear lane markings.

-Bad weather can interfere with vehicle sensors.

-Self-driving cars can't take directions from a policeman.

There are people out there with a valid drivers licence that can't parallel park worth a damn.

Lots of people regularly drive too fast for the current weather/road conditions.

There are people out there that can't take directions from a satnav nevenmind a policeman.
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By Asura.Calatilla 2016-04-09 01:35:13
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Asura.Calatilla said: »
Altimaomega said: »

-Poorly marked pavement, including parking lots and driveways, could foil the technology, which relies on clear lane markings.

-Bad weather can interfere with vehicle sensors.

-Self-driving cars can't take directions from a policeman.

There are people out there with a valid drivers licence that can't parallel park worth a damn.

Lots of people regularly drive too fast for the current weather/road conditions.

There are people out there that can't take directions from a satnav nevermind a policeman.
 
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By Altimaomega 2016-04-09 01:37:09
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Asura.Calatilla said: »
Altimaomega said: »

-Poorly marked pavement, including parking lots and driveways, could foil the technology, which relies on clear lane markings.

-Bad weather can interfere with vehicle sensors.

-Self-driving cars can't take directions from a policeman.

There are people out there with a valid drivers licence that can't parallel park worth a damn.

Lots of people regularly drive too fast for the current weather/road conditions.

There are people out there that can't take directions from a satnav nevenmind a policeman.

Kinda my point. They at least have the same right to the road as I do. What gives this self-driving car that right?
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By Asura.Calatilla 2016-04-09 01:38:41
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It isnt any less stupid than a registered driver.
 
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2016-04-09 01:41:20
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You'd be surprised what passes for rights nowadays.
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By Altimaomega 2016-04-09 01:41:43
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Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Asura.Calatilla said: »
Altimaomega said: »

-Poorly marked pavement, including parking lots and driveways, could foil the technology, which relies on clear lane markings.

-Bad weather can interfere with vehicle sensors.

-Self-driving cars can't take directions from a policeman.

There are people out there with a valid drivers licence that can't parallel park worth a damn.

Lots of people regularly drive too fast for the current weather/road conditions.

There are people out there that can't take directions from a satnav nevenmind a policeman.

Kinda my point. They at least have the same right to the road as I do. What gives this self-driving car that right?

Driving is a right now?

People have a right to the road? A right to drive? I am going to tell the DMV to stop infringing on my rights by making me pay for a license renewal and things.

It has been ever since the horse and buggy...
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By Altimaomega 2016-04-09 01:42:48
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Josiahkf said: »
Altimaomega said: »
maybe you could answer my question.
Scroll up. I did answer your question.

Ahh, I missed it.. Musta been since it was like 10-15 posts after I asked it. My bad.

Anyways I've moved on and no longer care about that question I have a new one.
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By Altimaomega 2016-04-09 01:45:41
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Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
What right does a 16 year old have to be on the road?

The same as you.
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By Altimaomega 2016-04-09 01:47:23
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15 in some states. I was driving down back roads at 7.. Legally..
 
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By Altimaomega 2016-04-09 01:49:22
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The internet is so much fun!
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By Altimaomega 2016-04-09 01:55:38
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Especially since I keep getting banned for long periods of time!

This place is a lot better with Rooks running things though.
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