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Do you think America has a war on Christmas?
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-12-24 23:13:56
Merry Christmas everyone! I hope it finds you well even if you can stand the thoughts of a christian holiday permeating western culture.
Christ is born.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-12-24 23:35:16
Haven't seen anyone that thinks there is a war on Christmas, other than nausi of course.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2015-12-25 01:24:27
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By Asura.Ina 2015-12-25 02:04:34
I don't believe in any deity but I still say Merry Christmas freely to people because I'm just wishing them well on the date "December 25th."
Just like the majority also follow a Gregorian calendar and so I wish them a happy new year on january 1st; since it's the internationally majority accepted "new year" I know that everyone will understand the goodwill I'm trying to convey etc
Really, I have never met a person who was offended by "merry christmas", I've only ever heard about them from religious people who claim they're being persecuted because they're no longer solely considered when holiday wishes and decorations are the subject. They exist but they are pretty rare... People who get worked up over someone telling them Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas are awkwardly more common. Like someone who was on my facebook was saying how anyone not saying "Merry Christmas" should leave the country if they want say Happy Holidays since "Christmas is our country's custom" lol
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-06-16 00:46:14
Asura.Floppyseconds said: »No war on Christmas.
Just a movement against people acting like their religious affiliations with a commercialized holiday is everyone's holiday.
That everyone regardless of their religious affiliation should be using the holiday affiliated with the majority religion in the country.
Thus people get all upset when someone tells them "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" and declares there is a war on their way of life.
Typically I hear from people "I don't care what they believe. I tell them Merry Christmas" which is disappointing. Why can't Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah, Kwanzaa(I'm not sure what the Kwanzaa greeting is), Happy Flying Spaghetti monster day, Happy new years, etc, just be taken as a wish of good will and not taken to offence? Why should anyone have to change their greeting? People say these greetings because they want to bless you with the same joy they are feeling. Why be offended at a persons good intentions?
(This reply isn't in regard to other posters. I just mean society in general)
And to the question in the thread title:
I think there is a war on not just Christmas but all morality, truth, modesty, selflessness, love, peace, self control, and anything else that is good and virtuous.
Well said endoq I agree.
By Yatenkou 2016-06-16 01:25:10
It took you 174 days to say that!?
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-06-16 01:57:34
It took you 174 days to say that!?
Yes , I was banned is why. I was just catching up with the discussions I could not participate in. I am glad Chanti thought to share the article for us to talk about.
These few years of Political Correct terminology is a assault on all freedoms and religions in my personal opinion.
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By Phoenix.Morier 2016-06-16 02:02:33
Happy holidays is an assault? People on both sides are way too sensitive.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-06-16 02:20:40
Happy holidays is an assault? People on both sides are way too sensitive.
I agree with you our current society has been conditioned through education and ,media, to be very sensitive about the agenda of Political Correct terminology to such a degree that you must feel ashamed of who you are or what you believe or what you say.
Then terms of Racist or bigotry or others are thrown out at anyone with a different opinion to try to silence or discredit. It's rediculous that's why I consider it a assault on freedoms and religions.
The 1st amendment says freedom of speech.
Not freedom from speech.
The 1st amendment also says freedom of religion.
Not freedom from religion.
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By Phoenix.Morier 2016-06-16 02:44:33
Happy holidays is an assault? People on both sides are way too sensitive.
I agree with you our current society has been conditioned through education and ,media, to be very sensitive about the agenda of Political Correct terminology to such a degree that you must feel ashamed of who you are or what you believe or what you say.
Then terms of Racist or bigotry or others are thrown out at anyone with a different opinion to try to silence or discredit. It's rediculous that's why I consider it a assault on freedoms and religions.
The 1st amendment says freedom of speech.
Not freedom from speech.
The 1st amendment also says freedom of religion.
Not freedom from religion. ok. using your own words, it isn't an assault because you aren't free from happy holidays.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-06-16 02:55:53
Some folks don't celebrate holy days. I'm not implying force them to celebrate. I'm just saying don't feel ashamed of who you are or what you believe or what you say. I find it a blessing to be different. A World where everyone is the same would be horrible. Imagine if everyone was told they must eat tomatoes raw and enjoy it because its Politically correct . I don't know about you but I hate raw tomatoes personally lol
By Blazed1979 2016-06-16 03:26:19
Its not an American War against Christmas, its a Zionist war against christianity and the american liberal left eat it up like candy.
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By Phoenix.Morier 2016-06-16 04:00:11
Its not an American War against Christmas, its a Zionist war against christianity and the american liberal left eat it up like candy. The conservative right like calling everything a war. They eat it up like candy.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-06-16 04:07:28
Its not an American War against Christmas, its a Zionist war against christianity and the american liberal left eat it up like candy.
To be fair both political parties do and of course the United Nations pushes Political Correct collectivism as well. I hate globalist who think they can take over the world and erase borders and culture without a war.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-06-16 08:50:51
Happy holidays is an assault? People on both sides are way too sensitive.
I agree with you our current society has been conditioned through education and ,media, to be very sensitive about the agenda of Political Correct terminology to such a degree that you must feel ashamed of who you are or what you believe or what you say.
Then terms of Racist or bigotry or others are thrown out at anyone with a different opinion to try to silence or discredit. It's rediculous that's why I consider it a assault on freedoms and religions.
The 1st amendment says freedom of speech.
Not freedom from speech.
The 1st amendment also says freedom of religion.
Not freedom from religion. "Freedom of religion" also means "freedom from your specific religion for those that don't practice it". Not realizing this, is one of the reasons why you keep getting topic'd for trolling and general idiocy.
actually no offense but "Of" in the english language does not mean the same thing as "From"
of
əv/Submit
preposition
1.
expressing the relationship between a part and a whole.
"the sleeve of his coat"
2.
expressing the relationship between a scale or measure and a value.
"an increase of 5 percent"
from
frəm/Submit
preposition
1.
indicating the point in space at which a journey, motion, or action starts.
"she began to walk away from him"
2.
indicating the point in time at which a particular process, event, or activity starts.
"the show will run from 10 to 2"
I would not classify my nations founding fathers as idiots they wrote the Constitution as clear as possible because in the Old world they were persecuted from doing such things and made sure to express this as clear as possible in the Constitution. If they wanted to prohibit people from expressing religion openly they would of wrote in From
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-06-16 08:51:59
A state has to be laic, otherwise it's a theocracy.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-06-16 08:59:09
A state has to be laic, otherwise it's a theocracy.
This is what makes the United States of America a unique nation compared to other nations. We allow the practice of all religions, we allow open speech and assembly and the press. that's just in one amendment
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-06-16 09:00:46
Allowing practice of different religions is not unique to the USA at all.
And also you seem to read my comment wrong. A laic state doesn't mean that religions aren't allowed within, just that they cannot dictate laws and policies. Laic means separation of state and church.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-06-16 09:02:37
I don't know why you believe freedom of religion, speech and press is unique to the usa lol. It's a thing that characterize all modern democracies.
I don't suppose you know why there are arguments about the turkish entrance into the EU?
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-06-16 09:07:04
Allowing practice of different religions is not unique to the USA at all.
And also you seem to read my comment wrong. A laic state doesn't mean that religions aren't allowed within, just that they cannot dictate laws and policies. Laic means separation of state and church.
Technically your wrong about this Our nation has national holy days celebrated and granted through our government.
The US government recognizes all religions holy days, that's not separation from church and state on the contrary seanchan its government approved from the horses mouth.
we have representatives who are apart of different religions in Washington D.C, the only things about about separation of church is state is taking orders from religious leaders or making laws to favor or prohibit and discriminate on others inside our country.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-06-16 09:09:44
Religion cannot dictate laws and policies. No matter how much you wish it could, this is how it is and how it damn should.
This is why there are equal rights for homosexuals for example.
The Syrian Conflict Won't Steal My Christmas
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Quote: This post is part of a special series of articles by blogger and activist Marcell Shehwaro, describing the realities of life in Syria during the ongoing armed conflict between forces loyal to the current regime, and those seeking to oust it.
Quote: Christmas used to have a special meaning in my family, full of spiritual and familial rituals. As children, my sister Leila and I used to take turns throughout the night watching out for Santa Claus, waiting to catch him “in the act”. I cannot remember clearly when we realized it was a trick played by our parents, or when we found all our letters to him, written over the years, safely stashed away by our parents. Even after growing up and realizing that Santa did not exist, my mother insisted that exchanging the gifts under the tree remain an annual ritual. A ritual that stopped, obviously, after she was gone.
At the beginning of December, she used to ask each of us what we needed, what we wished for, and she made sure that each of us bought gifts for the others. We would spend Christmas morning exchanging gifts and letters, after which I would spend hours upon hours getting ready. The hairdo, the makeup, the new clothes. I kept on buying new clothes—“Christmas clothes”—every year until I was 28. I used to look very colorful at Christmas. My hair would be, contrary to the norm, well styled. I used to practice using different colors on my eyelids. I would even sometimes go all out and draw a butterfly tattoo on my shoulder—“It’s Christmas!” I would then go to mass, followed by a party where Santa would show up and give us balloons and hats, and we would dance to “Jingle Bells”.
When my father died many Christmas rituals disappeared from our household. The tree disappeared, for instance, but my mother retained the rituals of love and gift-giving, as well as her insistence every year that we go out to celebrate with our friends and leave her by herself. Today I regret every time I left her alone, as a teenager, to go out to celebrate with friends.
After my sister’s marriage and birth of her first child, Christmas regained its familial flair and my mother regained her smile. The ritual of decorating the tree was revived and she celebrated with the grandchildren. The number of letters to Santa increased and we all got creative in inventing new scenarios for Santa to show up and distribute the gifts.
Then the revolution started.
The first Christmas is as ordinary as possible. I try to ignore the imminent threat and have an ordinary family Christmas, trying to ease my mother’s fears and wishes for me to stay safe.
The following year it is impossible to ignore all that. My last day in our house is New Year’s. Security forces are already on my trail because of what I was writing, and what some people—people with whom I used to spend Christmas, signing, dancing and celebrating—were writing to the security forces about me.
That day was my last day on the western side of Aleppo which, to this day, remains under Assad’s control, making it impossible for me to go there. I crossed the border into Turkey and re-entered from the liberated side of the city. To make the crossing between the two territories I had to use a fake identity and disguise myself with a head scarf. And to evade the regime's snipers targeting crossers, we had to race between the crossing’s two points. Those were the most dangerous five minutes ever. Crossing, without any goal worthy of this sacrifice except the “memory of the New Year”. Christmas as an act of resistance—I wasn’t going to let them steal my Christmas.
I crossed safely to the other side: a “Christmas miracle”, maybe. And I celebrated Christmas and New Year’s with the friends who loved me so much they took the risk of celebrating with me. I then returned to the liberated part of Aleppo, making that my last visit to my house, to those streets and to Christmas as I knew it.
At the same time that year another miracle happens in my city: my best friend survives a shelling at a new year’s party. I’m still grateful for that. The most beautiful miracle of my life.
The following year finds ISIS on my tail. It is very dangerous for me, as a Christian, to be in areas where they roam freely, kidnapping revolutionaries, first the Muslims among them. But despite the danger I insist on putting up a Christmas tree at my house. During wartime, there is no place you can easily buy a Christmas tree. I had to buy it in Turkey, at a price that I could ill afford then. I wrapped its various parts in clothing and smuggled it all the way to Aleppo. I hid the decorations inside boxes of tissues. Two hours on the road during which I feigned confidence at every checkpoint so that my clothes wouldn’t be not searched and my smuggled tree wouldn’t be exposed.
At an ISIS checkpoint at the city’s entrance a guard asks: “Who is this suitcase for?”
It’s mine. I make a move to open it but the driver answers: “It’s for the woman.”
The guard loses interest in searching it, and I pass safely into Aleppo. Another miracle? I don’t know.
I gather friends around me. Most of them are decorating a Christmas tree for the first time and even though the ritual has no religious meaning for them, they came and stayed around me to share my joy.
Jawad, the weirdest among them, says cheerfully: “Christian feasts are really nice.” And we all laugh.
Ali, my friend in the Free Syrian Army, approaches carrying a gift he wants me to put under the tree. I take it—I’m stunned with terror. A very small assassination pistol. He says: “It’s nothing. Is case they come for you,”—he means ISIS – “don’t let them get you alive.”
The thought is terrifying. It’s terrifying that someone’s love for you suggests your suicide. He realizes that I cannot kill, so he didn’t even try to convince me to defend myself. The pistol was eventually stolen, along with the laptop and other items in the house, and we never needed to use it. A miracle, again.
Today that tree lies in a house in the neighbourhood of Al Sukkari; a house its owner sealed up with bricks before fleeing to we don’t know where.
Maybe this is what Christmas is all about.
To be naïve among the people you love, defying death and loneliness.
To ignore the fact that Santa Claus is really your parents.
To brave the possibility of sniper fire so you can spend New Year’s Eve with friends.
To smuggle a Christmas tree through ISIS checkpoints.
To set goals for the New Year, knowing you cannot achieve them.
To pray from the heart that the doors do not close in the faces of the refugees from your country like they were closed in the faces of Mary and Joseph on Christmas Eve.
To try and find a miraculous way to penetrate an extremely painful memory and paint some love into it.
Maybe this is what Christmas is all about. To be naïve enough to write a letter wishing for “freedom”.
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Lara AlMalakeh This woman's Christmas I can understand.
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