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Double/Triple Capacity Points not working yet?!
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By Cerberus.Warviper 2015-11-10 05:45:00
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Hi.

Am i missing something or is the Double Capacity Points PLUS campaign not working yet???

I seem to be getting the usual 700 capacity points per kill in escha zitah like always but i thought the campaign had begun now?!?

The following campaigns will kick off on Tuesday, 10 November at 7:00 a.m. (GMT).

From Friday, 10 November at 7:00 a.m. (GMT) to Monday, 20 November at 2:59 p.m. (GMT).

Chain Experience Bonus Campaign - PLUS!
Earn from double to three times the normal amount of experience from experience chains. Not only that, but the maximum benefit of Dedication from items will be doubled during the campaign!

Chain Capacity Point Bonus Campaign - PLUS!
Earn from double to three times the normal amount of capacity points from experience chains. Not only that, but the maximum benefit of Commitment from items will be doubled during the campaign!

Chain Monstrosity Bonus Campaign - PLUS!
Earn from double to three times the normal amount of experience from experience chains. Not only that, but the maximum benefit of Dedication will be doubled during the campaign!
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By Yoshimuru 2015-11-10 05:54:22
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start in JP midnight
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By Cerberus.Onvasquez 2015-11-10 05:54:53
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I dont think its actually double CP. Think it only affects chain. not sure. been downloading for 5 hours already and 17% hopefuly ill find out in a week or so when its done downloading.
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2015-11-10 05:59:10
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Yoshimuru said: »
start in JP midnight
It says 7am GMT, it's currently 12pm GMT.

It could be that it only affects chains as the description of the campaign suggests. We just got a permanent 100% CP increase this update anyway, 90% for RoV KIs and I assume there's a 10% bonus for completing RoV.

Seriously why are you CPing when you could be doing missions to increase your CP rate?
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By Carbuncle.Skudo 2015-11-10 05:59:42
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You need to get CP chains for the bonus to kick in, since the campaign increases the bonus CP you get from CP chains. I'm getting less than double, let alone triple CP at Chain 20+ though, so maybe there's something off still.

Overall, I'm looking at something like ~+60% with all CP+ gifts, CP+ RoE, CP+ Cheer etc.

/edit: Just checked Chain #0 numbers. The campaign does not improve base CP.
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By Carbuncle.Skudo 2015-11-10 06:02:15
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Cerberus.Tidis said: »
Seriously why are you CPing when you could be doing missions to increase your CP rate?

As far as I'm concerned: Wide open camps. I'm fine with some smaller CP/h, if I get to keep my sanity.
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By Yoshimuru 2015-11-10 06:48:58
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Cerberus.Tidis said: »
Yoshimuru said: »
start in JP midnight
It says 7am GMT, it's currently 12pm GMT.

It could be that it only affects chains as the description of the campaign suggests. We just got a permanent 100% CP increase this update anyway, 90% for RoV KIs and I assume there's a 10% bonus for completing RoV.

Seriously why are you CPing when you could be doing missions to increase your CP rate?

according to /servmes its 15:00PM GMT 10/nov , so in about 2hrs from now.
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2015-11-10 07:03:58
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Yoshimuru said: »
Cerberus.Tidis said: »
Yoshimuru said: »
start in JP midnight
It says 7am GMT, it's currently 12pm GMT.

It could be that it only affects chains as the description of the campaign suggests. We just got a permanent 100% CP increase this update anyway, 90% for RoV KIs and I assume there's a 10% bonus for completing RoV.

Seriously why are you CPing when you could be doing missions to increase your CP rate?

according to /servmes its 15:00PM GMT 10/nov , so in about 2hrs from now.
That would definitely correspond to JP midnight but the notes do say 7am GMT!
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By Sylph.Nimlith 2015-11-10 13:09:22
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I might be wrong but it looks like i'm only getting the 2~3x cp bonus when exp ring is active. Between chains 15-25 getting 1.8k without ring but 8k with
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By Bahamut.Korgath 2015-11-11 00:55:34
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Sylph.Nimlith said: »
I might be wrong but it looks like i'm only getting the 2~3x cp bonus when exp ring is active. Between chains 15-25 getting 1.8k without ring but 8k with

I'm seeing pretty much the same result as you. Only seem to be getting a noticeable boost in CP when rings are active. As soon as it wears off, even sustaining the chain, CP goes back down to under 2k. Compared to over 8k right before the ring bonus wore off.
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By Cerberus.Demonsgate 2015-11-11 00:59:44
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yea i dont belive they have this working right eaither im only getting like 800 a kill-1500 with 100jp on my monk ring active im like 8-10k with chain 15+
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By Ruaumoko 2015-11-11 01:04:43
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I wonder if this is why the servers have gone down for emergency maintenance? I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this and thought that the EXP/CP rate was low, even with chains in the high twenties. I was getting 20000-25000 (Apex Eruca) without a ring and I have fully capped RoV increases and RoV itself completed. I was getting similar numbers before the update, maybe slightly less, so I think they've messed up somewhere?
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By Cerberus.Demonsgate 2015-11-11 01:05:45
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yea i swear i was getting less then last night
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By Leviathan.Krysten 2015-11-11 01:10:29
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i was gettin aboutr 8k in jima chains with tiezek ring but only 2k with cap ring

if i were bet id say T ring are working others rings are not
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By Phoenix.Libbien 2015-11-11 01:13:41
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I haven't CP'd on apex mobs since the last double cp campaign so I'm not sure what I was getting before, but I can say this... When our CP chain broke tonight on apex crabs, I was only getting ~12-15k cp/kill with no rings or ch3 RoV KI's, only 31% cape and kupo. When our cp chain was around 40+, I was getting ~45k cp/kill without rings or ch3 RoV KI's. I'm not saying it's working as they intended, but all 5 of us pt'ing saw a higher than normal increase as our chain climbed, it just took awhile to build it up.
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By Fenrir.Memow 2015-11-11 01:51:00
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I was just killing escha il'aerns before maint started and with my exp +150% ring I was getting 18000 exp (not cp) for chain0.
Now, assuming base exp of 1500 for a level 112+ mobs (according to wiki, outdated?), +180% from RoV + 20% from kupfried, so +200% = base exp of 4500. 18000 would imply that the ring is giving me +300% instead of +150%. This tells me that we're getting double dedication bonus.

When the ring wore off at higher chain (like chain 7) I was getting 11070 exp per kill (started using qultada though, so numbers might be goofy here) chain 5+ with base exp of 4500 should be giving 1.5x which would be 6750. I was getting around 2.46x instead. I'm assuming it gets higher as chain goes higher. a chain bonus of 2x-3x would be giving anywhere in the range of 9000-13500 without ring. (Which it is.)

This is smaller than double exp campaign, which just doubles the base exp, then you'd still get the 1.5x from chain 5+. A normal double exp campaign would give 13500 exp every kill chain 5+

It seems to be working as intended, but it's just not as good as a normal double campaign. (Edit: unless you have a ring effect active, then it is better. Like if I waited til chain 6 to use my 150% ring it would have given me 44280 exp in a single kill.)

I assume it works similarly for CP, but there's a lot more that goes into that calculation (bonus from mecisto. mantle and bonus from gifts and I have no idea what the base CP per mob at x-level is or how to find that out.)
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By Cerberus.Warviper 2015-11-11 02:15:01
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So if its not as good as a normal double campaign why the hell are they calling it a campaign PLUS thingy to suggest its even better than normal...

I want my money back!!!

ATTICA - ATTICA - ATTICA - ATTICA - ATTICA - ATTICA - ATTICA - ATTICA - ATTICA - ATTICA - ATTICA - ATTICA - ATTICA - ATTICA - ATTICA - ATTICA - ATTICA - ATTICA - ATTICA - ATTICA - ATTICA - ATTICA
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By Asura.Sechs 2015-11-11 02:17:32
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I think it's working as intended, it just isn't as good as the regular double campaign, whose main strength was being a multiplicative 100% bonus
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By Fenrir.Memow 2015-11-11 03:09:06
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Figured it out:

chain 0 base exp 4500 (all RoV bonus and kupofried. no ring)
chain 1 gives 6300 or 1.4x (instead of 1.1)
chain 2 gives 6750 or 1.5x
chain 3 gives 7200 or 1.6x
chain 4 gives 8100 or 1.8x
chain 5 gives 9000 or 2.0x
chain 6-9 gives 9000 or 2.0x
chain 10-19 gives 9225 or 2.05x
chain 20-29 gives 9450 or 2.1x
chain 30-39 gives 9675 or 2.15x
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chain 200+ gives 3x

and all rings give double dedication %. (150% becomes 300%)
conclusion: Not bad, but a normal 2x campaign is better.
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By Bahamut.Foreverj 2015-12-11 06:51:48
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This campaign is kinda weird. At chain 150 I was seeing 4500 without ring with 9 people then later on the night we were down to 7 and was seeing 8000 cp without ring at chain 60. Surely dropping two people can't cause cp to double to 8000 at only chain 60. Anybody figure this out or does last campaign rate applies?

If anyone ask why we bringing 9 it's because I try to fit everyone in and gave everyone a role. 2 pullers 4 mass aoe jobs a cor geo and a black Mage that heals the puller lol. Pulled in 140 in 2 hours. Wasn't perfect. If perfect such as no deaths and chain better we would prob be seeing 100 JP an hour.
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2015-12-11 06:56:54
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people do seriously effect the amount of cp you get. I've seen it working fine. and having no issue. :)
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By Bismarck.Zuidar 2015-12-11 06:57:06
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exp/cp drops significantly if in a party higher than 6 people
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By Bahamut.Foreverj 2015-12-11 07:01:13
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I understand it's working fine. Is it working like last campaign tho?

We were seeing 8000 cp at chain 60 with 7 people which is more then 6. And dropping 2 people causes cp to skyrocket to 8000 at a much lower chain?

I'll just test it out again tonight.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2015-12-11 07:08:04
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Getting 65535 cp on about chain 15 with 50% cape/exp roll on Dho Gates Apex mobs where last campaign we didn't hit 65535 cp/mob until about chain 30.

As far as >6 party members go, I experienced a 50% CP penalty in Escha Ru'aun with a 7th member.
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2015-12-11 07:08:41
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SE said it would work like the last campaign BUT ramp up harder, which it does.

Chain 100 still seems to be the cap where the increase stalls out.
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By Bahamut.Foreverj 2015-12-11 07:16:05
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Thanks