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[dev1296] Aeonic Weapons
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By Asura.Failaras 2015-11-12 02:29:31
so looking at the new weapons, everyone has been talking about how the tp bonus is either helpful or not helpful for that particular WS, but i realized, its mentioned before the AM for the weapons and before mentioning the WS name. could this be a 500 tp boost to any WS used with that weapon? the more i look at it, the more i think that. That's how I read it. TP Bonus +500 for any WS. Whatever the WS listed on it was just for getting AM up.
I think if it was only for that WS it would of been worded as:
"WS Name: TP Bonus +500"
if thats the case, these weapons are all pretty great, highest damage if not near highest with a fat tp boost. Mage weapons though...
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By Bismarck.Cloudxi 2015-11-12 02:35:45
bout time melee got another chance at glory lol
By Faero 2015-11-12 06:41:52
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I dont speak/read Japanese, but images of the boosted Excalibur, Burtgang and Almace at about 44mins into the Live Letter. Nice Dmg boost and skill upgrade to 269 like Aeonic.
From what I can see;
Excalibur Dmg+42 Att+20
Burtgang Dmg+44 Enmity+5
Almace Dmg+43 DEX+20
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By Leviathan.Stamos 2015-11-12 07:05:12
Yeah, and magic dmg on all of the weapons. Looking at the other Aeonic weapons you can put a rough estimated where the other Relic and Mythic weapons will be boosted up to.
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By Bismarck.Oldmancebi 2015-11-12 07:17:41
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I dont speak/read Japanese, but images of the boosted Excalibur, Burtgang and Almace at about 44mins into the Live Letter. Nice Dmg boost and skill upgrade to 269 like Aeonic.
From what I can see;
Excalibur Dmg+42 Att+20
Burtgang Dmg+44 Enmity+5
Almace Dmg+43 DEX+20
Excalibur looks freaking sick!! Can't wait for what they'll do to other R/M/E
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2015-11-12 08:05:43
Ummmm wut, that big of a boost to REM?? Tizona about to wreck face....
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By Ragnarok.Presidentobama 2015-11-12 08:24:11
Bismarck.Oldmancebi said: »Your text to link here...
I dont speak/read Japanese, but images of the boosted Excalibur, Burtgang and Almace at about 44mins into the Live Letter. Nice Dmg boost and skill upgrade to 269 like Aeonic.
From what I can see;
Excalibur Dmg+42 Att+20
Burtgang Dmg+44 Enmity+5
Almace Dmg+43 DEX+20
Excalibur looks freaking sick!! Can't wait for what they'll do to other R/M/E
Let the empy owners cry. They wont have hmp. May even be more cruel if shield gets updated, again no pld will go from 90 to 99. Laugh.
Empy staff rdy for boost, and I think I am encouraged enough to spend my hmp to upgrade almace for my blue. May wait to see empy scythe though stats.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Orestes 2015-11-12 08:49:52
Your text to link here...
I dont speak/read Japanese, but images of the boosted Excalibur, Burtgang and Almace at about 44mins into the Live Letter. Nice Dmg boost and skill upgrade to 269 like Aeonic.
From what I can see;
Excalibur Dmg+42 Att+20
Burtgang Dmg+44 Enmity+5
Almace Dmg+43 DEX+20
Pretty huge boost. This is really nice, as it follows the original theme of these weapons, with high base damage + low delay.
Just a quick number comparison
relic dmg is 34.7% boost
mythic dmg is 33.5% boost
empyrean dmg is 37.7% boost
I think it's interesting they boosted Empy as much as they did. Some of them might be a bit more interesting than they were before...
If this holds up for katana's, they might look something like this.
Kikoku DMG:148 Attack+60
Nagi DMG:151 Macc +38 Enmity+23
Kannagi DMG:145 AGI+40
I have a bad feeling the upgrade path from 119 is going to be a lot worse than 300 pluton/beit/boulder was at first. (recall plutons for 300k)
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By Bismarck.Laurelli 2015-11-12 08:58:17
Would be cool if an upgrade NCP just tells you something on the lines of "your weapon is already great, just needs a quick polishing. gimme 500 gil and we'll call it even."
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2015-11-12 09:08:32
My Ergons are weeping...where is the love? Geomancy Potency + 15~20 please!!!
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By Bismarck.Oldmancebi 2015-11-12 09:13:51
Bismarck.Laurelli said: »Would be cool if an upgrade NCP just tells you something on the lines of "your weap, on is already great, just needs a quick polishing. gimme 500 gil and we'll call it even."
I'm hoping they just update it without making some tedious gather materials side quest. Tedious enough taking it to 119 >.<
By Rooks 2015-11-12 09:14:19
Quetzalcoatl.Orestes said: »I have a bad feeling the upgrade path from 119 is going to be a lot worse than 300 pluton/beit/boulder was at first. (recall plutons for 300k)
Heavy Metal Plates for relics
Riftcinder for mythics
Ranperre Goldpieces for empyreans
Do your worst, Square
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By Sylph.Shadowlina 2015-11-12 09:16:00
Your text to link here...
I dont speak/read Japanese, but images of the boosted Excalibur, Burtgang and Almace at about 44mins into the Live Letter. Nice Dmg boost and skill upgrade to 269 like Aeonic.
From what I can see;
Excalibur Dmg+42 Att+20
Burtgang Dmg+44 Enmity+5
Almace Dmg+43 DEX+20
This means Mjollnir will have +60 attack instead of 40.
and the acc weapons will have 60 acc instead of 40 acc.
plus the skill bonus. that's actually quite nice in the long run.
Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-11-12 09:19:39
Is there a nice picture of all the aeonic weapons together like there were for RME?
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By Asura.Cevlina 2015-11-12 10:07:53
Taking a look, it looks like the RMEs are also getting Magic Damage +186 and Magic Accuracy Skill +242, meaning that's probably the max on the finished Aeonic ones too.
Edit: Whoops, just noticed that the 4th sword was indeed the Aeonic, so yeah. "probably" is right.
Double Edit: I'm dumb. The sword has that much already. The rest of the RMEs will probably be matching their weapon class in Magic Damage/Accuracy.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-11-12 10:13:14
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By ScaevolaBahamut 2015-11-12 10:17:53
Not that anybody is going to really care, but it's even sadder they won't relent on putting post-RoZ jobs on relics after this. It'd be nice to have a path to that kind of damage without going through a Mythic.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-11-12 10:18:45
Both relics and empies for the last two jobs. It's bs they refuse to add them really.
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By Ramyrez 2015-11-12 10:33:15
I'd really love to see corsair on Mandau...
...I don't really have a game-mechanics basis for that, I just really want to be able to dual REMA (ed. note: did we decide on that acronym for sure?) on corsair.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2015-11-12 10:42:25
Don't know about you, but I'm seeing +40dex on the Amalace
That means I'll probably be offhanding my twashtar again. Pretty sweet.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2015-11-12 10:45:40
I'd really love to see corsair on Mandau...
...I don't really have a game-mechanics basis for that, I just really want to be able to dual REMA (ed. note: did we decide on that acronym for sure?) on corsair. Well that's not what I'd request cause it'd be clearly a stretch.
But cor on anni, blu on exca, pup on spharai, dnc on mandau, sch on claustrum, run on cala and geo on dagan. It's silly to worry about balance with the other crazier weapons around.
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By Rooks 2015-11-12 10:49:00
dual REMA (ed. note: did we decide on that acronym for sure?)
I'm still sticking with MAERE, because Ergon is a different class of weapon, and *** that shitty knockoff Diabolos
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 Ragnarok.Afania
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2015-11-12 10:54:48
Wow, looks like there will be a pretty huge gap between some mythic and other ilv 119 options?
Tbh I don't really like how they do it......I'd like to see some relic/empy dmg increase so they're not completely useless but that means mythic will be further ahead.
Guess in 2 years whoever still plays FFXI would require DDs to have a mythic to join party because there are no excuse not to have it.
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By Shiva.Tilanna 2015-11-12 10:59:18
Your text to link here...
I dont speak/read Japanese, but images of the boosted Excalibur, Burtgang and Almace at about 44mins into the Live Letter. Nice Dmg boost and skill upgrade to 269 like Aeonic.
From what I can see;
Excalibur Dmg+42 Att+20
Burtgang Dmg+44 Enmity+5
Almace Dmg+43 DEX+20
Someone may have pointed this out already, but, at around 38 minutes in, they show how the WSes chain. He does 3000 TP Shoha (to get AM3) > Shoha, and produces the new Radiance chain.
Then the DRK comes in and they do Entropy > Fudo (Darkness) > Entropy (Umbra)
Would be interesting to see if you could do double Darkness and follow with Umbra, but it doesn't look like they go that far into it.
By Faero 2015-11-12 10:59:23
My Ergons are weeping...where is the love? Geomancy Potency + 15~20 please!!!
My main is Run, and although I am still a long way off Epeo, I'm imagining the stat boost will be to Enmity, like Burtgang. Going by this I'd also imagine the Idris buffs will be to the MAB/MAcc and not to Geomancy+. It's already OP as is.
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2015-11-12 11:27:11
REMA is fine. It's intuitive. No ffxi player is going to ask what REMA means if they know about aeonic weapons, but I'm sure you'll get drowned in questions asking what MAERE means.
[dev1296] Aeonic Weapons
A new class of armaments, aeonic weapons, will be added via a new quest.
Aeonic weapons are of the same caliber as relic, mythic, and empyrean weapons, and possess an aftermath effect that enables the activation of new skillchains that surpass light and darkness.
* Completion of the aeonic weapons requires completion of a quest to be added in a subsequent update.
And here it is folks, while not necissarily from Seakers expansion, another new set of Relic/Mythic level of weapons
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